Logistics of breaking up and moving out?
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I moved in to my girlfriend's apartment a little more than a year ago and decided this isn't the thing I want to do anymore. Is my escape plan appropriate? Background: I met my current girlfriend a few years ago while we worked together (we still work together, but never see each other since the building is very big with lots of other people). About a year ago, I moved in with her. In the course of living with her, I've determined that I don't want to move forward with this relationship for various reasons (cleanliness, attitude, decision-making, health, professionalism, and general smothering-ness as I need time to be alone sometimes). We've also been growing apart, intimately speaking. Short-term, I like spending time with her, in general, but I have to try really hard to ignore the issues listed above (easy to do when we are out doing things like dinner together). She showers me with gifts and supports me (for the most part) in my work and dumb hobbies. Long-term, I know it's best to let her go. https://ask.metafilter.com/88726/How-do-I-let-someone-down-easy#1305651 explains the situation perfectly. It's not fair to her for me to keep holding on to this -- she has expressed that she eventually wants to get married, but won't date forever. I don't want to marry her. I need to free her up to pursue a better match for herself. I have depression and anxiety, although I think I've been doing a fabulous job of keeping both in check by focusing on my health, which does wonders and I don't want it to stop. I do sometimes still struggle with depression, especially when I consider this relationship (she is aware of all of this). I feel better when I think about everything I want to do after getting out of this relationship. I don't have many friends and my family lives far away. I've failed at breaking up with her once before, mostly because the emotions were overwhelming and I was afraid of being alone, period. This is the number one thing that concerns me about breaking up. What is the best way to go about this? I was in a relationship a while ago where my girlfriend moved in with me. About two years after, she decided that it's best to break up (and I agreed, for the most part). I cried for only about an hour. She still stayed with me until she graduated college a couple of months after that. Her stuff was gone a week after. It was so drama-free. I don't think this is going to be drama-free because this girlfriend tends to have a pretty poor attitude, likes to create drama IMHO, and tries to manipulate. I fully expect her to be blowing up my phone (voice and text) and e-mail, but I know it needs to be no-contact, at least for a while. I'm also deeply attached to her dog, I'll probably miss the dog more than her, and get sad thinking about this part. I'm considering going ahead and finding and renting an apartment before I break up, then have family visit me and help me move and stay just a little while longer, like a half-day or a day, to validate that I'm making the right decision, and that I'm staying balanced. Meals, gas, and sleeping space provided for them. We'll move one or two days after we break up. If she happens to come home while we're moving, I'm predicting a lower likelihood that she'll want to create a scene if my family is there (and they'll shut her down if she tries!). I'll also pay her my share of the rent for a couple months following, unless she creates drama. Is this a solid plan? Is this insensitive? Am I missing any special considerations?
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Answer:
What the hell? There's something about your phrasing that's very cold and off-putting; referring to your "escape plan;" you're more attached to her dog than to her; your family will shut her down if she tries to make drama; and you'll pay your share of rent unless she causes a scene. She's your girlfriend, she probably loves you and you guys live together. She thinks you two have a future. I think it's safe to assume she's going to be completely blindsided by this and of course she's going to be upset. Can you take some time to consider how to break up with her kindly and thoughtfully...maybe not refer to this as your escape plan?? Plan how you're going to break this to her (Jesus...don't have your family around), and then prepare yourself that you may shock her and it would be a kindness to let her talk. Let her talk with you. Tell her your moving plans. Don't get your family involved. And please don't mention you will miss her dog than you will miss her.
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Other answers
What would really creep me out, if I were your girlfriend, is realizing that you had been planning this for a long time, while we were still interacting as a couple. This realization would make me distrust my own perceptions, in a way that would be deeply disturbing. If it were me, I would want you to move NOW, into some kind of temporary housing, rather than continue to deceive me while preparing your move.
feral_goldfish
Also yeah, I was trying not to say this in a totally heartless way, but you sound like you have zero empathy for this woman, especially framing her potential upset and heartbreak as "drama," "causing a scene," "manipulation" etc etc. I'm sorry, but most people don't just discover their relationship is single-handedly ending, nod, sadly say "ok" and go off to the grocery store to buy milk. On preview: "If you need to - do it. Just don't fool yourself into thinking she's a crazy person for flipping out about it." THIS THIS THIS.
celtalitha
You're missing the part where "I'll pay her my share of rent for a couple months, unless she creates drama." No. You'll pay her your share of rent for a reasonable time for her to find another roommate regardless what she does, and "crying for an hour" and no following drama whatsoever is not a fair or realistic expectation for exiting a multiple-year serious relationship this way.
celtalitha
If she happens to come home while we're moving, I'm predicting a lower likelihood that she'll want to create a scene if my family is there (and they'll shut her down if she tries!). It's not fair for you and your family to jointly gang up on her just because you'd like to escape "drama". Also, definitely agree with the above that your "plan" seems to be to blindside her and not give her a chance to process at all. You don't seem to be thinking of her at all, only making things as easy as possible for yourself. Also, you have to give her money for several months rent and utilities (whether you're on the lease or not), not just "unless she creates drama". You are actually planning on possibly punishing her for creating "drama" by withholding rent from her? Do you think rent is some favor from you or something?
Blitz
All I know is, if you treat her understandable unhappiness as "drama", I can almost guarantee you're going to get real drama. Because no one likes having their feelings devalued or dismissed. Or to be treated like an easily-discarded, irrational idiot. It's crazymaking and manipulative - which is funny, because you're raring to characterize any misery on her part as manipulative.
Coatlicue
Breaking up sucks, and there's going to be anger and sadness and confusion. As an adult you need to deal with it because that is how adults handle things. Sit down and use Miko's script. Explain that you'll be making plans to move, then do it. You're not allowed to slink out under cover of night (or family) just because you can't be bothered to tell the woman you've lived with and fucked for the past few years that you don't love her after all.
Ruthless Bunny
Also... I may be scum to you, but I would appreciate some helpful advice instead of sticking to a part of the picture to criticize my character. A person's character is defined largely by one thing, which is how he treats people who are vulnerable, who he is in a position to harm... and character mostly comes through when it would be easier, more fun, or more convenient to harm such a person. Your basic question here is: I am going to hurt someone. How can I do it without inconvenience for myself? When that's what you are asking, you are certainly going to be judged for your character. If your question is instead: How can I cause the least harm to someone else, or not hurt them, and preferably make their life better? then you might get a different response. However, you are not even close to the latter. The main aspect to avoiding harm is understanding it and empathizing with it. You hardly talk about your girlfriend as a human being. You compare her to a dog -- and the comparison is only in the context of how each thing benefits and pleases you. You dismiss her real, human feelings/pain and expression of them as "drama." You talk about your family "shutting her down" like she's a machine or a radio, or some inanimate object that creates noise. The thought of you asking her what she wants, finding out as much as possible about her feelings (rather than "shutting her down"), asking and listening until she has Nothing More To Say rather than running and sneaking off like a blindsiding coward in the night, working hard to make this transition the best thing possible for her as per her needs, hasn't even crossed your radar. Your question is basically, "How can I shut this bitch up as fast as possible so I can get out of there without any hassle to myself?" You want helpful advice? Think about what it actually means to you to have character, do those things, stop using the word "drama" in describing a human being's emotions, work really really hard to get in her shoes as a human being rather the callous way you're acting now, then decide how to treat her once you've done that.
htid
You're being really cold and unrealistic here, so I'm going to go with that - as a roommate, you have a responsibility to pay your half of the lease going forward. That's what I would do to a roommate if I suddenly decided I couldn't live there any more; I'd pay my portion of the rent until they found a new roommate, and I wouldn't interfere with that process with all (so if they didn't find anyone, I'd pay my rent until the lease term is over.) Break up with her today, start looking for an apartment today, get out as soon as you can, but you should pay for the remainder of your portion of the lease. You're right, by the way - she'll be much better off without you.
punchtothehead
I'm considering going ahead and finding and renting an apartment before I break up, then have family visit me and help me move and stay just a little while longer, like a half-day or a day, to validate that I'm making the right decision, and that I'm staying balanced. Meals, gas, and sleeping space provided for them. We'll move one or two days after we break up. If she happens to come home while we're moving, I'm predicting a lower likelihood that she'll want to create a scene if my family is there (and they'll shut her down if she tries!). I'll also pay her my share of the rent for a couple months following, unless she creates drama. Is this a solid plan? Is this insensitive? Am I missing any special considerations? Holy crap, this is some fucked up shit. You're not going to discuss this with her at all? You need your family there to protect you from her being upset? You sound terrified of her, and you sound incredibly self-centered. This is not how grown-ups end a relationship unless you feel a need to get out quickly for safety reasons. You haven't said she abuses you, so gland up and let her know you're ending things and moving out, and deal with the possible reactions. And pay your rent for at least two months, regardless of whether she behaves the way you want her to. She's allowed to be upset.
oneirodynia
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