Why can I not get over my abusive boyfriend?
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I broke up with my off/on boyfriend and am having a terrible time not approaching him to take me back, even though he is, um, nuts.Many words within. I met a guy online in mid September. He came on incredibly strong, and I found that a little alarming, but was also flattered by the attention. I'm used to fairly avoidant men that make you their fifth priority so this guy who made me his only priority (seemingly) was intoxicating. Anyway, we met after a couple of weeks of daily talking and it was on immediately. He told me he loved me about 1 week after that, but then the manipulation started as well as the pretty intense jealousy. He accused me of being in love with one of my ex-boyfriends (we broke up 10 years ago but are still close) even though I continued telling him I wasn't. He told me I shouldn't see my ex for a while if I cared at all about him and our relationship. He was fixated with my Facebook, going through all of my photos again and again (I have about 1000). He also read through every single Facebook status I had back to 2007. I took recreational drugs from time to time, but heavily in my late teens/early 20's. I told him about this when he asked but then he became obsessed with my drug use, even though I haven't had any drugs since 2013. Any status on fb where even a joking drug reference was made, he would 'like' in order to notify me that I had to delete it (or else I didn't respect him). He did the same with photos. And he was relentless about this. I broke up with him a couple of times at this stage but he would plead with me that he was sorry and that he loved me more than anything or anyone ever and blah blah blah and I'd take him back. Things started getting worse though when he spent an entire night going through my phone while I slept, reading through every single Facebook private message I've had for the last 5 or so years. There was some pretty embarrassing shit in there, as well as stuff about ex boyfriends. He would drop this stuff casually in arguments in the days following and then I realised he'd gone through my phone. When I told him that was fucked up, he BROKE UP WITH ME. I didn't cry about it. But I did leave my city to visit my mum. He then kind of cyberstalked me for about 24 hours, finding my eBay account and messaging me constantly on there, then contacted my mum who he'd never met on fb saying he loved me was sorry etc etc etc. Of course I fell for it again, took him back. I had a huge canvas print of a Banksy artwork with a police officer snorting a line. After one night where I didn't feel like sleeping with him, he woke up in a bad mood (he always sulked if I didn't feel like having sex, which he felt like doing every second of every day) and suddenly started on me having this print demanding I tell him why I like it and that I had to admit that it was due to the drugs. I kept trying to reason with him, saying I wouldn't discuss it with him then and there because he seemed too angry to listen to my reasons for liking it but we could discuss it later. He got more and more angry, and finally ripped my huge canvas print off the wall and disappeared outside. When he came in I demanded to know what he'd done with it but he was just yelling at me that it was gone and demanded I tell him why I liked it. I went outside and found that he had screwed it up and thrown it in the bin. I went inside and kicked him out but he refused to leave. I live alone and don't have any close friends or any family where I live (I moved there from a bigger city an hour away only a year back) so when I tell him to leave, short of calling the cops, he isn't going anywhere. And he didn't. Instead he fell apart. Started shaking and crying and telling me how sorry he was. For like two fucking hours. I had a university exam this same day and I continued telling him he had to leave. I was calm about it but I was persistent. He continued refusing and continued crying and sobbing and shaking telling me how bad he felt. Again, I forgave him. The interrogating me about drug stuff didn't stop though. It was like he'd lay awake all night thinking about it then when Id wake up he would've sent me 4 or 5 texts just questioning me about shit that happened 10 years ago. It was insane and I told him it was. One afternoon after we'd broken up (we mustve broken up 15 times over the 3 months, always me initiating it (except for that one time), always me taking him back) he texted me telling me he had gambled all of his pay (he is a fireman). He had told me he used to have a problem with gambling but had it under control. Anyway, feeling bad for the guy, I offered to take him out for some dinner. This hurt me about him, he always made me feel like total shit for ever having taken drugs, yet when he faltered I was compassionate. Anyway, I went to his house where he lived with his folks on his 4 days off (his brother on the 4 days on) but they weren't home. I have never met them. As soon as I got there he started on me. His face was dark. Cold. He was arguing with me about our recent argument that had caused a breakup (he was relentlessly questioning me about drugs and I was refusing to answer him, so he refused to talk to me at all so I told him to fuck off until he could get over it) and I took my phone out from where I sat so I could show him how he was questioning me and how rude it was, and he threw my phone across the room and it landed on the floor. I sat there thinking "fuck, I'm in trouble." I slowly got up to get my phone, but he moved his foot from where he stood so that he was standing on my phone, preventing me from grabbing it. Then he grabbed my arm and led me back to the chair saying "cmon, you're not going anywhere." Fuck, even writing this now I can't believe there is even more to say because I stuck around for more bullshit. Anyway. When he relaxed enough to move his foot from my phone I stood up, grabbed it, grabbed my keys and went for the front door. He stormed out after me, saying "where you going tough guy?" grabbing my keys out of my hand, grabbing the back of my shirt and leading me back inside. I was pretty concerned by this point, but fucking hell, I heard him out over the next couple of hours and we somehow made up and I for some fucking reason I stuck around. Anyway, nothing got better. He started mocking me when Id get upset with him. He threw me down twice, once onto my bed, once onto the couch, both times when I was trying to leave the room we were in when he was yelling at me. Whenever Id break up with him, he turn up at my door and refuse to leave for hours and hours, sometimes even breaking in. One time he broke in, turned on my comp, logged into my fb and sent himself a friend request from my acct and accepted it from his. When I found out he did this, I demanded he leave my house (I was at work but got a notification on my phone that he had accepted my friend request) but he told me he couldn't because he was crying too hard, and he was telling me how sorry he was and that he just loved me so much and it was making him crazy. When I got home from work he was sitting in his car outside my house in a total state and I told him to come in. Why God why? Anyway, we ended up making up and getting back together but I told him I was pretty down and out, my trust in him was fractured and he would have to work hard to earn it back. He told me very eagerly that he was up for the challenge. I mean, this all sounds so crazy, but when things were good, they were amazing. He would tell me constantly how much he loved me, how perfect I was, how beautiful I was, he wouldnt even look at other women, he seemed completely devoted to me, and I guess thats why I kept overlooking all the bad parts... my ex boyfriends were all kind of cunty, and would just be disinterested and aloof most of the time so this felt good. Anyhow. It continues. When we got together, he had only been broken up with his ex girlfriend of 5 years for a couple of weeks. Usually I run for the hills when this happens but he swore he was over her and that he hadn't loved her for the last couple of years of their union. I knew he had contacted her when we were together, on two occasions. I was uncomfortable with it because of the nature of the contact. It felt like even though they weren't together, he still felt like he had a right to know what what she was doing, had she moved on etc etc. This meant another dumping. Anyway, crazy thing is this, when she broke up with him, it was a blind side. She had arranged, behind his back, a new job in a tiny town 4.5 hours away and advised him she was moving out that day to take this job etc etc. My parents got a job in the same town about 2 months ago. People talk. What I learned yesterday, was that at a new years eve party, his ex gf was there as well as my mother's colleague. My mother's colleague (MC) mentioned to the ex that she knew her ex-boyfriend and he was dating her colleagues daughter (me). Basically she fell apart at the mention of his name apparently. said he has been stalking her for the last 3 months, harassing her, was trying to get her back for ages, and to tell me that I should run for the hills as he is a "nut job" and that he is the reason she had to move so far away. When I found this out, I tried calling him, he didn't answer so I sent him a text telling him we needed to discuss what Id heard. He texted me back saying "uuuuh, I dont think so". So I shamefully lost my shit at him in text, calling him a mongrel and then promptly changed my number, deciding enough was enough. But IM FUCKING HEARTBROKEN. I am sad and ashamed that I'm sad. I feel stupid and weak that if he were to try contacting me through my emails or something I would probably hear him out. I used to be so strong and now I feel like a battered wife. Why am I sad? Reading what I've just wrote makes me just go "Um, deadflag, you're dodging a bullet, lady" yet I continue checking my emails and wondering why he hasn't contacted me a thousand times by now like he usually would in the past. I hate feeling like this. I hate it. I have a counselling appt on Thursday so I can unpack some of this shit and hopefully become someone who is strong enough to avoid this shit in future, but why am I so sad? So I guess, for those of you that have also been through this, did you go through a grieving process like I am, or did you crack open a bottle of champas? It's all fucking with my head.
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Answer:
When I finally had the police come haul my abusive ex-boyfriend out of the house, I cried for days. I missed him, but was so angry at him, and, more than anything, angry at myself for letting him convince me to take him back so many times before. A major part of your life is ending. Even though it was a painful and unhealthy part, it's still a change. You feel sad because you are grieving. What you are feeling is normal, but you've absolutely done the right thing. I'm so, so, sorry that you are going through this. But also happy that you are getting this guy out of your life. He doesn't deserve you.
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Other answers
I strongly suggest you call the National Domestic Violence Hotline and talk to someone at 800-799-7233 . You're describing the awful web of being caught in an abusive relationship. Please get help. Granted, I am an internet stranger, but going by what you've written about this person, I think you can assume he's not done with you yet. You have described an irrational person who has already held you against your will, broken into your house and threatened you. His ex had to escape from him and he was stalking her the same time he was with you. Please, take steps to get help and protect yourself. This guy is dangerous.
kinetic
I am so sorry to hear you are going through this. Please don't be cruel to yourself over the fact that you still feel attachment to this guy. I think many people who have been through what you're going through will have gone through a grieving process and few of them will have opened the bottle of champagne. Please take this with the caveat that this is very much me mapping my own experiences onto what you've described, but here goes. There's a certain kind of rationalizing that you can do if you're abused as a child, or if you've got mental illness or drug addiction in your family, where you learn how to make the bad stuff that happens to you "disappear." I mean, you learn to suppress and discount the shitty things that are done to you, because you have no way of leaving those situations when you're little, and facing the fact that the people who you're depending on are horrible to you is absolutely terrifying. So I think you can start to look at that disappearing process as though that's the thing you do to show your love for the people who are hurting you, and you start to look at yourself as someone who's good at tolerating outbursts like that and then moving on, someone who doesn't need the people around them to be stable. There's a logic to that. But it also makes you feel comfortable in dramatic situations as an adult, and you don't really develop the skills to recognize red flags and stand up for yourself, because all along you've had to ignore red flags to maintain a semblance of comfort, and you've looked at "finding a way to deal with it" as the good thing, and standing up for yourself as the bad thing. You've learned that defining your own desires is dangerous and therefore the prospect of having to work out what you want and learn to set boundaries with people is terrifying. And once those people start throwing affection your way, you're completely thrown, because you've always wanted it but never been comfortable accepting it. Maybe you're aware of this on some level and avoid relationships because of how scared you are of getting close to someone and then having to set a boundary. And healthy people have a way of sensing this about you and stay away from having relationships with you. Or maybe they don't sense this about you, but they don't get the sense that you're a safe intimate partner. So you don't get a whole lot of attention from healthy people, but you wind up looking good to cunty guys because they can get away with being cunty guys to you, and downright manipulative , dangerous, abusive assholes like the guy you're describing have learned exactly what to do to draw you in. They can see you coming before you see them, and they test you and break you down in subtle ways, and by the time you realize what's happened, you're hooked. I hope you avail yourself of whatever domestic violence protection options are available to you, and stick with your appointment. You might also consider reading http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk/, which is a very awesome blog. For what it's worth, you will hopefully get to a point where you are looking forward, optimistically at opportunities to connect with people instead of back at this situation. I was in a relationship a little over ten years ago where the woman I was with would have outbursts of anger, violence, accusations, and so on, and I got out. And it sucked. And if there is one thing I could have told myself back then to make it easier, it would be, "Dude, eventually this will not be a big deal anymore. You'll meet people, they'll throw up red flags, and you'll recognize them and step away from those situations without a second thought, and go out and find someone who will give you a good relationship instead, and all of this will be a distant memory."
alphanerd
Upon your updates, I am terrified for you. With respect, he broke into your house - you don't seem to grasp what that means. Everything you describe is pretty text book for relationships where the woman ends up in the hospital or worse. No exaggeration, this is exactly how this happens. This is the path these tragic crimes follow. Your first job here is to go to stay someplace safe. Then pick up the phone, and find someone who will tell you the truth about mental illness and domestic violence. Your nonchalance in the face of so much danger is deeply concerning. You describe the actions of someone truly unhinged. That all of this drama and violations happened in 3 short months? What is the disconnect? From coming on fast and strong, to the jealousy, to the triangulating with his ex gf, to breaking into your house -- this person is a predator -- this is how predators act. Get someplace safe and call a crisis hotline for clarity and advice, resources for someone professional to support you. Stay safe.
jbenben
It's simple: Whatever he did wrong, he is the only man who actually gave you the attention you wanted and needed. It's like finally feeding someone who is starving, but lacing it with poison that makes them ill but doesn't kill too quickly. It's time for you to learn what a healthy emotional diet looks like and that it's okay to get fed adequately, and without the craziness. If you have never had the attention you need, it can be hard to tell the difference between positive attention and negative attention. Now you have had a taste of getting the attention you need and how sublime that is. What you need to learn next is how to do that in a healthy way. At the moment, you have two mental models: Men who won't pay attention to you and men who will but are stalkers and nuts. It's time to figure out a third model, one where it is possible to get the attention you need, minus the crazy drama. Best of luck.
Michele in California
This doesn't answer your question at all, but please start documenting any contact he attempts with you, as there is a good chance he will and that it will be problematic. Be prepared to talk to the police about a restraining order.
Specklet
independent of how to get over this... the guy broke in to your house while you were actively still having a relationship. i would honestly go to the police now and see if you can get a protection/restraining order. i can't escape the feeling that the radio silence now is just the calm before the storm, and that this is not the end. especially with his other ex saying she had been stalked for month. you need to be proactive in protecting yourself here. as much as it sucks, this shitmess is likely in no way over.
emptythought
I went through something similar and did the same dance for a year. You are not stupid nor are you crazy. Actually you were most likely sourced for your kindness and sensitivity, or your ability to put up with the self doubt this kind of crazy shit produces. Maybe it's childhood damage from a parent like this, maybe it is just that you are a highly sensitive person. A classic M.O. of these kinda guys is to find a flaw he can beat you with. Mine was infidelity, also past drug use. Your dude searched and searched for evidence of a flaw in you that he could exploit when he couldn't figure out how else to control you. A ha! Drug use. Big deal. http://www.slideshare.net/jenimawter/red-flags-to-narcissistic-personality-disorder-compiled-by-jeni-mawter http://www.slideshare.net/jenimawter/moving-on-from-narcissistic-abuse-due-to-narcissistic-personality-disorder-npd-compiled-by-jeni-mawter helped me enormously when I was right where you are now, as in knowing absolutely that I could not ever be in relationship with him, but desperately wanting him to contact me. At first when you watch the slides, you think 'oh, this is sooo basic' but watch them every time you feel like he has some redeeming features, or that you might be in the wrong. Seriously. I used them daily to remind me of the reality of the psychological gamut I was running. I was aching all over, feeling abandoned, berating myself etc - BUT it got better. I tried writing reasonable emails when I was frazzled. Don't do it! They go nowhere. I tried being acquaintances on Facebook but he just played games so I blocked him completely. You have to do that - block him completely. The ex-girlfriend scenario you describe is one I know to a T. No one is allowed their life with him, or after him. Everything is scrutinised and evaluated against this rage machine. Abandonment by his prey is what he fears and hates the most. It will get violent inevitably with these guys. I had the same thing happen to me. Tell your friends what has happened. Corral support from them. My closest girlfriends contacted me every day to tell me I was worthy, strong and resilient, that I could break the addiction. You can do it, you can do it, you can do it. You can get this piece of shit out of your life.
honey-barbara
If you are having reactions to the severity of these comments about your safety, such as 'oh, it's not THAT bad' and 'Oh, they don't really know how much I get his pain/miss him/believe in his love of me' I know how you feel. You probably feel bad for painting him the way you have to us. Maybe you are having second thoughts about whether you exaggerated, or misframed things and now we all seem to be on a bandwagon towards criminalising him unnecessarily. That's okay to feel that way. But if even a fraction of the things you wrote about his behaviour are factual [and I believe that you have been ultra factual btw, and trust your perception] you have a situation that many of us have experienced, and know how it ends. My ex I discovered had restraining orders against him from previous lovers. He also had previous lovers still locked in the dance with him - alternately throwing him away but also missing him and making contact - many years later. One of the restraining orders was for biting his ex's face. Read that again: biting his ex's face. Til she bled. This is a guy his enabling friends laud for his profound gentleness of character and good intentions in life. Your inner kernel of belief in yourself, the kernel that says this is CRAZY, is what you need to expand into a boundary around YOU, against this enormous intrusion into your life. I will also say that if my experience illuminates anything, a guy you met online who has behaved this way, has a whole stable of women he is in communication with sourced the same way. There is a kind of narcissistic dance going on in your approach too. I had to examine my own stuff when this happened to me. I thought I was truly his One n Only and he'd realise it and change. Uh uh. Give up that thought. Cut off the narcissistic supply - you tell him you miss him, he gets a reward. Cut off the supply, de-oxygenate that supply by total silence. No matter what he says. And call someone from the sites linked above. Do it and don't feel shame, don't minimise, just lay it out and let them advise you.
honey-barbara
And if he does show up again, calling the police is an absolutely reasonable response. Please don't think that's overkill.
jaguar
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