Addressing the need for me-time in a LDR
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My GF and I are currently long distance, though only for a short while longer. We're planning for me to visit her at the end of the month for four days. Due to manic work commitments and sickness, I was looking forward to having this (long) weekend to myself, but my GF has said that my not coming to visit has made her feel "not nurtured." I don't know how to address this in an adult fashion; advice is welcome (snowflakes abound…) We last saw each other on the first weekend of the month, which was her birthday weekend. I went down to visit her (~4 hours away) and stayed for the long weekend. It was wonderful, but on the day I was coming home I started coming down with flu, which made the journey home a lot less fun. We didn't get to speak that much (we Skype most nights) that week because I was in bed and nursing a fever and occasional delirium (I spent one night convinced that I was a lionfish wearing a man suit. I am not kidding). The week after that she had to go away for work at very short notice. We coped using Skype (she had an 8-hour time difference from me so it made it quite easy to catch up in my afternoon / her morning). My GF is currently looking to buy a place near the city where I live, as she's moving up in September to go to grad school. She'd found a place advertised on the web whilst she was away and decided to come and look at it this Friday just gone, and then to stay with me on the Friday night. In the meantime I spent my Sunday checking out the area where the house was, and a bunch of others, to make sure that it was worth her time and money to come up. Unfortunately, I then got sent away for work and wasn't able to be at home at the weekend, so she didn't stay over (having got the train up and home on the same day). The next time we're planning to see each other is next week. We're going to a concert together and then spending the weekend at her place, or maybe going out to the coast or something. Whilst all this has been going on, things have gone to shit for me at work. One of my colleagues, a senior member of staff, went AWOL last week, and it turns out that he's had a relapse into alcoholism and has now become more than somewhat unreliable. As the next most senior person, and the only one with the requisite skillset to finish his work, I've been drafted in to tie up what he's left dangling. The upshot is that in the last week I've had half a day off (yesterday) and am working until 9pm most nights. This will continue for the rest of this week, until Friday when the project deadline falls. With sickness and travel at the start of the month I've had no time to devote to my passion projects — short films that I'm writing, scoring and directing. These are all things that have other people attached to them and the longer I delay the harder it's going to be to pull everything together. I'm in introvert, and to recharge I sometimes need a chunk of alone-time. I was looking forward to having this (long) weekend to myself to recharge my batteries, do a bunch of writing and pre-production work and generally just stop rushing around. Today my GF texted me to ask if we'd see each other this weekend. I told her that no, the plan was for me to spend *next* weekend. She replied "... but it's a holiday weekend." I wasn't able to reply there and then because of work, but when I did I told her that:I couldn't afford to come down two weekends in a rowI really needed the upcoming weekend to rechargeI had plans to do writing, etc. (of which she's very supportive) at the weekendShe replied and told me that she recognised that I was dealing with a lot of stuff, but that she's not feeling very nurtured right now, that love should be nurturing, that she feels like she never gets priority in my life and she needs a partner, not someone with whom she has a relationship by text. I don't really know how to reply to all that. I'm feeling very much on the ragged edge because I'm so tired from work. The light at the end of the tunnel is that the project has to be done by Friday — great, I can stop after that. But I can't face driving for four hours or taking the train for 3 hours after that. I need to stop. I feel like she's being a bit unfair about priority. Yes, we're far apart and don't see each other as often as we'd like, but I work really hard to make time to Skype with her, even when as I'm madly busy as I am now. I took the time to go and research all the areas that she was looking at living (making detailed notes) and drove round them all to make sure they were somewhere she'd be happy. I love my GF very much and I understand that she wants to spend more time with me. I don't feel like I have the energy to spend with *anyone* right now, but I don't know whether I should stick to my guns on that or travel down to see her at the weekend, which I know would take a lot more out of me. Things haven't always been smooth between us — she's been with me through two major depressive episodes and one minor psychotic break, and I've seen her through a major depressive episode and been with her when she was suicidal and couldn't trust herself not to harm herself. But we've made it through, with love. I know that often the advice here on the green is "put on your own oxygen mask…" but in this case would that be an okay thing to do, or am I being super selfish by wanting to take the time off for myself? How can I address this in an adult fashion without seeming like I don't love her or that I'm avoiding her?
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I just want to pop in and say that I feel like people on here who are saying you need to just suck it up and spend the entire weekend with her anyway don't get how entirely broken and useless an introvert can feel at a time like this. At the risk of sounding too precious--because I sort of hate those "care and feeding of your introvert" lists that are all over the internet--you really are like a car with no gas in it. There is just nothing left. Maybe a better analogy would be to say that it's like telling someone with a high fever to run a marathon; you are just being asked to do something that is really not possible for you. The resources just aren't there. I say this as an introvert who is in a long-distance relationship with someone in which we are also both very busy and have other time-consuming things we do outside of our day jobs. It means we sometimes squeeze one another into the spaces that are left. Our unspoken agreement is that we are both here to be a refuge from the slew of obligations and not one more obligation to add to the stress. We have both gone longer than we'd like without seeing each other due to other commitments we've had, but although we don't love it when it happens, it's been okay because we are both secure in our feelings for one another, secure as people in our own right, and because we both understand how it is to be busy and burning the candle at both ends. We also both have additional support systems and outlets and friends. I couldn't have it any other way. I don't know if this is helpful or not, just a perspective showing that you can have a relationship that is good and solid and doesn't make these kind of demands. I imagine that like some other commenters here, I remember your posting history and am concerned about you maintaining your boundaries. So, even though it didn't get the response you might have hoped for from your girlfriend, I think you are doing the right thing.
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It sounds like you guys had a pretty good rhythm that was making you both feel sufficiently connected and prioritized, but the past month has been, well, shit. I can entirely see how your girlfriend might be feeling less nurtured--the problem is she's blaming it on you and your priorities, when the real thing to blame is just Life Bein' Life. I think there are multiple adult ways to address the situation, but the most effective one in my opinion would be by first addressing the validity of her feelings, and then asserting your boundaries: "GF, I know this month has been crazy and we have definitely not been able to stay connected in the way that I know we both prefer and are used to. I'm feeling the lack of it, too. However, I really need this weekend to recharge and take care of some things that have fallen through the cracks. This is a hard decision for me to make, because I love being with you, but I firmly believe that getting this weekend to myself will make me a better, more present partner with you NEXT weekend, when we absolutely will see each other. I understand that it's upsetting, but I hope you can accept my needing this time. And remember, in September, we get to stop doing this juggling act!"
We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese
As someone that survived an LDR for almost 6 years with both partners being half a world away from each other & seeing each other only rarely. I moved to where he lived & we have been married 5 years now. It is really hard in an LDR to keep the connection going and finding small ways to do that will help a lot to relieve some of her fears. She is planning on moving her whole life, how will you cope with her around 24/7 if you can't handle the odd stressful weekend? Is that something you may want to think about before she moves. She is moving, I suspect she may have chosen the grad school she did to be with you (I am not sure of relationship length etc from your question so I am assuming as it seems very coincidental otherwise), it is only fair you help to, helping someone look for a place is not the same emotional investment as actually upping your life and moving, if my partner then spend the weekend after I was working on a plan to be closer to them, basically not wanting anything to do with me I'd be feeling like I needed nurturing too because I'd be starting to question why I was moving if he didn't' want me around. I am not saying it's rational, I'm saying there is more to this than just being needy. I suspect you will find her need for attention relates to her fears. Find a compromise, because if you are thinking long term relationship you need to find a way to recharge while she is around. That would be something you could work on together. "Hey babe you know I am introverted & need to recharge can we find a way I can do that that will still make you feel nurtured?" Then work to find something that helps. My husband and I parallel work, we used to do the same thing only over skype. Camera on we could chat with each other on & off while doing our own thing on the computer, now we do it on computers next to each other in the same room.
wwax
Try this: "I agree that it's a bummer that I can't come. I'm sorry you feel less than nurtured and I hope that this is a passing emotion that you are relaying to me in the interest of full disclosure and not a judgment on me. I feel pretty overwhelmed and have always found that your support, even from afar, can help me through that. Please let me know what I can do for you from afar that will help you feel nurtured."
janey47
One last update… We've spoken and agreed that we need to have a long conversation about all this next week. Right now, I need rest, and I think she sees that — I'm feeling quite anxious and depressed today, a sure sign that I'm close to burning out. I know that three days alone won't sort me out completely, but it will go a long way to getting me back on an even keel - certainly even enough to be capable of being the company she deserves next week. Thank you all for your help. I guess we'll find our way.
six sided sock
OP, if you go, you're going to be implicitly telling her that all she has to do is throw a tantrum and you'll give up everything you need for yourself, such as time alone to rest and recharge, and attend to her wishes. That's a bad precedent to set, because sooner or later, Life is going to Happen again. And you'll find yourself in this situation, with her having a strop and you having to drop everything and if you can't just drop everything, her escalating the situation. I'd be more sympathetic to her if you were sunning yourself on a beach somewhere, but that's the opposite of what the case is here. Most supportive partners would be doing what they could to help lighten the load you're under right now, not double down on it and make it worse for you. For all she's talking about you not making her a priority, she doesn't seem to be making you one for herself. Her handling of this situation is kind of red flag-y to me.
Solomon
I hold this to be the highest task for a bond between two people: that each protects the solitude of the other. - R.M. Rilke People need time alone. You specifically need time to recharge right now. Your girlfriend is not meeting this task. She is not helping you protect your solitude. She is trying to step on your boundaries and is punishing you for not re-drawing them because she doesn't like them. She is not being reasonable. She's also given you a hell of a lot of data about the way that she handles things. I'm a bit angry on your behalf: Why is she begrudging you a weekend? In the grand scheme of things, this is nothing - it's a few days, and then you'll see her next weekend. This is nothing. She's shown you that in this situation your needs don't matter as much to her as her own needs, and that's pretty profoundly difficult to get past in a relationship. She would rather punish you and attempt to make your alone time this weekend unpleasant by turning off her phone and fuming at you because she fundamentally does not care about how you feel right now. She is supposed to love you, and she is not protecting you or your solitude right now. I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I'll leave you with one thing that has always helped me when I'm dealing with interpersonal issues with people who are not treating me well: Pay attention. Pay attention to how she makes you feel when you assert a totally rational, reasonable, logical boundary. Pay attention to yourself. And take care of yourself.
sockermom
From what I recall of my days in an LDR, it would have been a huuuuuge deal if I wasted a three day weekend and an extra(!) day with my SO because I was tired. I saw my ex when I had pneumonia, for the record, and was too exhausted to walk very far to a bus stop and I still did it. Guess who gave me it, though? So I think you are going to have to suck it up and see her, tired or no. This is a huge deal in LDRland. "I would see if you could make the energy to have her there for the long weekend. "Honey, I love you, but I can't drive up two weekends in a row without killing myself. why don't you come down-- I can't promise you lots of excitement, but we can snuggle through the weekend and cook breakfast together." I would do this. You sound so ragged I wouldn't trust your safe driving, and if you're about to keel over, she needs to make the effort if she wants to see you and realize that it'll be a snuggle with TV weekend. But I would not deny her entirely. She's already quite unhappy and un-nurtured--so you need to do something. That shit backs up in an LDR.
jenfullmoon
How can I address this in an adult fashion without seeming like I don't love her or that I'm avoiding her? Just like this person: I told her that: I couldn't afford to come down two weekends in a row I really needed the upcoming weekend to recharge I had plans to do writing, etc. (of which she's very supportive) at the weekend. I wonder to what extent she or both of you are pegging each other's mental health to the other person and their presence.
PMdixon
That's tough. I've been your girlfriend in my current relationship (we were LDR for quite some time on different continents) . I think I might have even *made* the holiday weekend comment-- yikes. I used to get angry for similar reasons-- both my partner and I have demanding jobs but we handle work stress very differently, and he often ended up decommitting . At a certain moment, it got to feel our relationship was unequal since I treated him as a priority and he treated me like an option. I would see if you could make the energy to have her there for the long weekend. "Honey, I love you, but I can't drive up two weekends in a row without killing myself. why don't you come down-- I can't promise you lots of excitement, but we can snuggle through the weekend and cook breakfast together." I would think if you can manage that this would be a reasonable compromise. I can't judge whether she's being reasonable or not in feeling a lack of nurture. But what I can say is that if you love her and trust her, then you should listen if she says so. (This is not the same as giving her what she wants in the end, but I find these kinds of conflicts are much easier to resolve if everyone starts from the assumption that the other person is reasonable in their needs.)
frumiousb
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