What is the best way to begin understanding/working towards being in the finance profession (IB, PE, VC, etc.)?
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I'm a student who's about to enter his Freshman year in college and am heavily interested in the Finance profession (mainly Investment Banking, Private Equity, or any related profession). The worlds of the stock market, finance, and economics have recently become a great interest of mine, but they are all so immense and have such depth that I hardly know where to begin. Aside from reading books, online publications, and Internet forums, I feel as though I still do not really understand much about these topics as much and as comprehensively as I would like. Essentially, my question is asking these things: What are the best ways for me to start fully comprehending all of these finance sub-topics, not only that I may get a better idea of what I'm going to be studying, but also to make myself the most viable candidate for a job after college? What classes should I take to ready myself for a profession in this field? What other skills/topics should I become proficient in before I enter the world of banking? What other kinds of things (whether in life, school, etc.) should I be doing to increase my chances of getting a job with a reputable firm after college? Any personal experiences, advice, or other inputs are greatly appreciated! I am really curious to learn more about the world of finance and I want to go into this profession as prepared as possible! Thank you all!
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Answer:
All of the fields that you've cited are largely apprenticeship-based, meaning classroom work will not go a very long way to giving you a leg up once you land a job. That said, you will be well served by having a fundamental understanding of finance, economics, accounting, strategy, and operations, so some coursework on those topics would be a good idea. As for breaking in, the first thing that will get you looked at is the school that you are attending (it may be too late to do anything about this), as IB tends to hire from a very small set of universities. As for PE and VC, it's very rare to get hired right out of school, so while possible, a stint in IB (or management consulting) is likely needed before breaking into either of those industries. Once you've got your application in front of a reader (i.e., you went to the "right" school or were able to network your way in, so that your application is being evaluated), the things that will stand out are the quality of your summer internships (as correctly notes), any experiences demonstrating excellence and hard work (competitive sports, club leadership, entrepreneurship, etc.), and your grades. The Epicurean Dealmaker, a blogger who is currently a managing director at an investment bank, has penned some insightful posts on this topic: http://epicureandealmaker.blogspot.com/2012/02/standard-model.html http://epicureandealmaker.blogspot.com/2011/12/in-nation-service.html All the best of luck!
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Financial modeling and valuation are very important skills for investment banking and PE. To best set yourself up to be a good financial modeler, pay close attention in your financial accounting course(s) and your general financial courses. Once you have developed good finance and accounting foundations, invest in a book on financial modeling and valuation or purchase training resources from websites such as http://trainingthestreet.com/ or http://wallstreetprep.com
Dan Gaeto
Learning another language will help you become marketable -- especially if you speak Chinese or Spanish. If you're having problems understanding your school work, take advantage of your professor's and TA's office hours and ask questions until you understand. Not being afraid to ask questions or to raise your hand that you don't understand is an invaluable skill. Also, read the finance sections of the WSJ and NYTimes. During summers, apply for internships in the financial services industry -- this is where you'll start to build your network. These connections from your internships can help you find work after graduation. And most important, work hard in college and study. Getting 'A's in key classes will give you a leg up on the competition. Good luck!!
Andrea Murad
Hey man!! So the relevant finance and accounting you will need to get into Investment Banking is going to range from none to very basic. If you are not a finance, accounting, or any other type of business related major you typically will not be asked any questions about finance in interviews and in terms of doing the actual work, you won't need to know any finance as they will train you! I know it sounds ridiculous but that is just how it is. So pick a major which you will truly enjoy and be able to sink your teeth into. In terms of what you really should know inside and out is, your story, and how it lead you to "I want to work in finance." If you really do want to get into learning what basic finance and accounting that they expect from business majors visit: http://www.ibankingfaq.com/ ...here on the left you will see a section on technical questions. These are the topics you will be expected to know...you can supplement anything they do not explain with Khan Academy videos. additionally here is a quora post on what exactly is ibanking, and I have quoted the Vault Guide on Investment Banking there. If you want to go the extra mile one you have gone through the above material, try learning financial modeling. Start with http://www.valuationuniversity.com which gives you step by step tutorials, explains the concepts, and provides dynamic excel spreadsheets to work through and download. If you want to move up to more advanced modeling step up to http://www.macabacus.com ***You have until your Junior year's fall semester to: really get your story perfect, practice for interviews, take on relevant internships (anything finance or accounting related will help), join clubs that show your interest (student managed funds, to ibanking clubs) show leadership If you have questions during your career development feel free to reach out as I was a highly motivated freshmen not too long ago. I have gone through the whole process as a finance major, and I do have friends from the other majors who have done the same.
Anish Patel
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