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As a computer science doctoral student working on ML, I have been approached to consult a startup who want me to sign a mutual non-disclosure agreement. I have some queries specified in the "details" section. Please advise?

  • I am a computer science doctoral student working on machine learning  (ML) research. Meanwhile, a startup approached me to consult/advise them  in areas related  to algorithms in ML. Needless to say a lot of work  that I do as part of my research encompasses ML deeply.  They want me to  sign a mutual non disclosure  agreement (NDA)/ non compete clause  before i engage as an independent  consultant with them, while pursuing  my program full-time. In this context, they know well that I will be  pursuing my program for at least the next 3 years. I have a few problems here. The confidentiality information covers: ...techniques, know-how, processes, algorithms... related to current and  future proposed products and services... and includes, without  limitation, their respective information concerning research,  experimental work, development, design details and specifications,  engineering... I am worried about this part mostly. Most ML research uses some form of classification or clustering in various domains. Every other startup is mining some patterns that they may use to their advantage. The methods used are generally known in the ML community and published in existing literature. Can a startup claim that an "algorithm" (which already exists in the literature) was used by me in some form at a later point of time for work unrelated to that domain? Additionally, I intend to use or publish research methods developed as part of my doctoral research during its course or in future. Does "without limitation ...respective information concerning research, experimental work, development" restrict me from doing this i.e can the organization restrict me from publishing work done in my doctoral program by claiming that I was also working with them during this period, so they have a right to what i publish during this time? Regarding confidential information ...if orally disclosed, designated as confidential at the time of disclosure and marked in writing as “confidential” Does this mean that anything said orally related to ML is considered confidential? Non-Compete clause- ...with a direct competitor of Company while engaged with Company and for thirty-six months following the termination or completion of this engagement... As an ML researcher, I will be working on ML in the future years to come. Asking me to stop working in ML for 36 months is equivalent to asking "dont work for 3 years". Additionally the startup does work which is similar to the kind of work a lot of analytics/data science related firms do. Most of ML research broadly falls into pattern mining in some form which almost all organizations engage in. In this context, does 36 months not seem a bit unreasonable? What exactly can i get them to write in the NDA which informs that they are aware of my research position and do not expect IP for my academic research?

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    The contract looks much too broad, and I'd get a lawyer to look over it.  What ends up in the contract will depend on the specific details of your situation, including how much money they are planning on paying you. There are some standard clauses which could be useful such as a specific list of things are *NOT* covered under an NDA, and in particular, a statement that any information that is available through public sources is not subject to NDA.  Also you can get them to exclude any universities or non-profit institutions from the list of direct competitors and to tighten that definition. But you really need a lawyer since this is a negotiation between you and the company, and they likely have a lawyer looking after their interests.

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Yes. All these clauses are hindering your future work with ML and if you ask me, consult your local lawyer (if the fees they are paying you are worth the trouble ) and clear the same with the startup. Non-competing clause and others are actually a part of standard NDA used by companies in the US and there is nothing alarming here. You can get them to remove parts that seem troubling to you.Best of luck.

Parag Nerurkar

The true concern should be this: they are asking you to not disclose, so in a way not share something which falls under the domain of theory. That's like asking someone to research on inequality but not tell anyone about it. Unless the NDA is very specific and about certain features or implementations of the theory, I think you shouldn't commit to it. How important is this work to you in comparison to your research and commitment to research should be your real question? Please remember that you are in research selectively over many others who weren't able to make it, so you owe it to it. :)

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