Song Lyrics: How can I write poems with profound meaning and style?
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I am very interested in poetry and have written some poems. I feel they are not as good as i want them to be. Are there any courses or books or websites or anything which can help me improve my poetry ? Your answer will be really appreciated. Thank you.
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Answer:
There two parts in poetry writing. The emotion and language. While the language could be easily improved by reading a lot, the emotions must be real to effectively pass it on to the audience.
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Other answers
Profound means deep. Of all that could be said, I think I'd recommend going for a long term principle, that will gradually deepen over time. You'll continue to learn craft and be influenced by good examples, but what holds it all together is the "inner art". A musician gets very good at playing their instrument. The instrument of a poet is him (or her) self. Become very , very , a keen and precise observer, of your own responses to poetry, lyrics, art of all kinds. When it's low quality, your appreciative vision can give it depth. When it's high quality, your own depth can be challenged to grow. I had a friend who was studying to be a film student. At first he only wanted to focus on the films that had high critical acclaim, and to turn away from the B-grade films. I told him the B-grade films were an excellent learning opportunity, if approached awarely, and to be a connoisseur of them would be well rewarded. Years later he remembered this, even after I'd forgotten. The wise man learns more from the fool, than the fool learns from the wise man. More For a little humor, check out http://www.online-literature.com/carroll/2822/ (A poet is made, not born).
Jeff Wright
Here are 12 recommendations for writing great and deep poetry: Experiencing life. Honesty and authenticity. Being open to talking about suffering, wounds, trials, etc... Reading vociforously Being a keen observer (of things at the surface and below the surface) Consistently recording your deep thoughts (I use my notes app on my iPhone and sync it with gmail so I can cut and paste ideas right into documents easily. I think The syncing does sap data plans due to constant update--but I have an original AT & T data plan thats unlimited. Note: I may be wrong--but I'm pretty sure this is true.) Cultivating curiosity, a passionate love of words, and a inner drive for telling stories (or otherwise communicating ideas artfully). Getting exposure to a community of creatives and/or writers Writing, writing, writing. Making it a habit. Learning to edit regularly and not being afraid of edits. Getting quality feedback from others can also be helpful. Self-reflection. I think is spot on about emotion and language. Although I might add that value/purpose, visual, experience, question, identifying conflict/controversy, and inner life as likewise important. I would also suggest this which I borrowed from : A musician gets very good at playing their instrument. The instrument of a poet is him (or her) self. Become very , very , a keen and precise observer, of your own responses to poetry, lyrics, art of all kinds.
Nathan Ketsdever
Something you can do : 1.Read the poems of great poet and learn basic things like how to refrain ,rhyme etc 2.Learn some well known poetry form like sonnet,triolet,terza rima,villanelle 3.Learn your poem and edit one or two time before completing it You can check for poetry form : https://sanjeetv.wordpress.com/poetry-with-and-without-protocol/
Sanjeet Verma
I've written many poems and songs. When I "try" to write songs, they are horrible. Far from deep. What I do is focus on my emotions, let them percolate inside me. Eventually, words start pouring out and I write them down or record them in voice memos so I remember the melody and rhythm of the song. Dive deep into your emotions, let them swim around, and see what comes out. And never, ever edit while you are writing. Let it pour out of you. Capture it. Then you can let the emotions go. My strongest songs were incredibly cathartic to write. Poems can be a bit easier for me. I wrote a new poem a day for almost 100 days. Not all were deep, but many were. I often wrote one or several that I trashed before writing one I shared on FB. Just sit with you emotions as I mentioned above and see what pours out.
Juliet Easton
To be really interested in poetry is not just to become a poet or to copycat what others have created. The interest is in learning or being entertained. To go beyond that stage and then want to teach others as well as yourself, or to entertain others as well as yourself... that's when you humble yourself to get the best a man can get, so to speak. Even then, you fight when you write. You fight in order to conquer the words you started with to get better as you go on. To ask others for their help in writing is going beyond the 'tell it to Mum and Dad' stage to get the experiences of other writers on your side. You want to become a team player. So if you get responses, then all well and good. My journey began with poetry as well as stories as well as songs. Each song started with a tune that visited me. I had no initial control over this at all, so I can't claim ownership of such events. But the words were developed and edited, switched around, edited again and finally created a genuine result. Those songs weren't finished as I thought until I actually sang the songs and recorded them and played them back and sang them again and phrased the words and emphasised some words as I sang them. So the first action wasn't planned. The conclusion of the process wasn't planned. I just knew I'd reached the conclusion when I couldn't improve anything and I was totally pleased with the results. There was the extra joy of performing the song that went beyond all my expectations. Nowadays, I use the hymn 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen' as the basis for the 8, 6, 8, 6 syllables common metre style that I prefer. If the words don't fit yet can be spoken well, then OK... My creative mind becomes aware of a phrase that I could use in a new poem if it's 8 syllables. Straight away, I know a new poem is waiting to be written. I choose whether to write it or not. I choose to delay if other things must be done. The poemhunter-dot-com website is where I upload poems and there are over 1700 there already. I wrote 4 new poems this week. I sometimes get a great title phrase and that inspires what follows from there... So there's no rhyme or reason for most of what a writer writes if not being a dedicated disciple to the art of writing. Some write about war and peace and others write about cats and dogs. It has been suggested that the only deep and meaningful writing of the last century was about spiritual matters rather than romances or fiction writing. The language used may be deliberately basic, rather than pompous, just to get the meanings across to young and old. So deep doesn't always mean majestic words found in a poetry anthology. I've had hundreds of my poems in poetry anthologies simply because of merit alone. Some deep poems are remembered because we choose to learn these and recite these or use some text to speech PC program that does this for us. Or we may visit the youtube-dot-com site and be entertained by celebrity readings. We may learn ways to express phrases that we could easily overlook otherwise. I like songs that are well sung or performed. Frank Sinatra studied a song and treated it like a poem. He also trained his voice to make some notes last longer. He was able to take a Sammy Cahn classic and turn it into a better classic, a masterpiece. So that's why I choose to visualise my poems and my songs as sung by great artists like Elvis Presley. I imitate how they would perform the song I've just written. I mimic voices and presentations. I get into character. I can then record the performance, play it back, improve it and present it to others. I explore TV comedy shows and create a scenario in my mind, I then perform it like an ad lib as to each character's responses. It's all part of a creative mind to everyday life. I write about superheroes like The Justice League. I write about Stephen Gayford wildlife pictures. I write about God. I use real life accounts, testimonies, sci-fi themes, fantasy art and so on. Starting from the age of 26 onwards, I was published for decades... now I'm more interested in the Internet as a showcase. The poemhunter-dot-com website has an email service so we can share what thousands of poets have written. I also have a Stephen Gayford poetry blog website where there aren't any adverts in the way. I also like calligraphy and various decorative fonts that can enhance the presentation even more. So I'm hoping that YOU can develop, too. I'm hoping that every now and then YOU can write a masterpiece. Perhaps poems that make you laugh out loud or weep a little, being amused, thankful or cheerful or tearful, but being closer to your own humanity than ever before in the sharing of your talent with others... I haven't been paid well for the hours, the days, weeks, months, years or decades... but I still thank God for any and every blessing along the way...
Denis Martindale
This is going to sound terrible...Many years ago I was learning to program in Basic (remember that?), and for my final project in class I created a program that "wrote poetry". I called it "CAP" - computer aided poetry.It would ask for the number of lines per verse, line formats, and number of verses. Then it would ask for x number of nouns, verbs, adverbs, adjectives, etc... pronouns were preloaded. You could tun a test of 2 verses to ensure it was in the format you wanted (and "back" to make adjustments). Then you hit "GO".Because part of the assignment was to have your program access the printer, CAP would start sort of word-vomiting neat little verses on the dot-matrix printer. My thinking was that a lot of "what sounds profound" is the juxtaposition of words and phrases that didn't normally go together. So if you say "hazy iron tears" - those things don't really go together, but they DO create a visual image and can evoke and emotion. So if you used words from very different subjects, like words about "surgery" and words about "farming", CAP would mix them up in ways they were not normally used. So if you spit out 30 verses using those two topics, you'd find lines and combos in there and maybe edit it down to 5 or 6 verses of "poetry".I think I got a B in that class...The funny things was that I ended up getting into it a bit. I had poems published in comic books and magazines. Recited in coffee houses (not by me). Even had a collection of them added to local writer's hard-copy book.But no one really caught on to the process. I'm not saying that the poems said nothing, but it was a process that allowed my limited abilities to flourish (as much as they could), and gave me sort of a right-brain version of left-brain abilities. It was fun at the time - kinda wishing I still had CAP actually...
Jon Baldwin
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