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Infidelity: How do I trust him again, sleep with him again, ever believe him again?

  • I began dating a guy in April 2010, we got along so well, I was so happy, even my friends noticed the glow in my eyes.  I thought we would get married.  He treated me like a queen and I thought I had finally found the man that I could trust completely.  I felt so loved and wanted and was sure we were going to get married.  A little over a year later, in July 2011, I noticed he was always "playing games" on his cell phone then one night, the phone rang at a strange time. I asked to look at his phone, not texts, except for one he sent himself that made no sense.  He lied when I asked about it. Knowing the signs of a cheater, I immediately asked for his login to his wireless account.  I went back to his phone and found his private in box. Bingo!  I found out he had been texting for about 2 months to the same number. Over 4000 texts in 2 months.  When confronted, he lied, repeatedly.  I guess he thought I was kidding when I said I was going to call her.  I spoke with this girl and found out she was 18; I also found out he lied to her about everything except his name, my boyfriend was 21years older than her at the time.  After he heard me talking to her on speaker phone, he told part of the truth.  Women aren’t stupid, even at 18, and the “vibes” she told me he was giving her was that he wanted to have sex, his reasoning for texting and seeing her was that he wanted someone to ride his crotch rocket with. Because he couldn’t find 1 guy in the greater metro area that rides, even though he personally knows some.  There’s more but this would be a novel if I continued with this story alone.  From there I found out he was on multiple adult sites, even homosexual and bisexual sites.  He lied as well, but I had already printed the proof before he could delete evidence. This was not my first rodeo.  I was noticeable unhappy and couldn’t trust him; the only thing he did to try to regain my trust was get on Google Latitude. Of course, when I was out of town, the program inexplicably turned itself off and if that didn’t happen, there were unexplainable locations he was at that he said were computer glitches. I believed none of his lies.  In December 2011, I made up my mind to move out and did so in January 2012.  I began dating a guy in late January 2012 that I did not tell him about.  He found out about it and I did admit it.  The problem with him was that he was mean to me and made me cry.  In 2012 I dated both men and they both knew about it but weren’t happy.  In fact, I was so unhappy in the new relationship I fought and cried nonstop; I repeatedly told him I didn’t want to be with him at all. Throughout the year, I spent the majority of the time with the guy I met in 2010.  It all came to a head in February 2013 when the new guy broke into my apartment one night and saw us together eating dinner and watching TV. I told the new guy it was over, he knew it was over, how he got in, why was he there and to get out (and I wasn’t very pleasant.)  He wouldn’t leave so I politely asked the man I still loved to leave so I could get the other man to understand we were done and I wanted nothing more to do with him. I lost my job on January 31, 2013 and since then, spend every day and night with the man I still loved from 2010. Since I had no job, for the 1st week of every month I spent it with my 91 year old grandmother (who lives about 180 miles away from me).  She is my love, my all, my everything.  She is the only person, besides my Aunt (who I even called Mom, who unfortunately passed in 2009) who loved me unconditionally, would talk to me about anything, supported me in everything and expressed it through actions and words.  Moving on, about a week ago, I took my boyfriend’s phone into the living room while he was sleeping so I could use is hotspot to watch Netflix and Hulu.  I have done this before, but for some reason last Thursday, I decided to look in his messages.  I saw nothing.  Then I hit a button and another page opened up and there was another messaging program. When I opened it I found a message sent at 4:51 am.  From there I got on his Verizon account and was devastated once again.  Between 6/2/13 and 7/18/13, they had sent each other a total of 3,333 texts.  I had an interview so I waited until around 5 pm on 7/18 to confront him.  Everything he said was a lie; even though I had already threatened I would call her.  He continued to lie.  The next day, I texted and introduced myself as who I was.  She knew of me but was clearly surprised about the true nature of our relationship.  I asked her to tell me the truth and was completely polite.  She was reluctant because she didn’t want to hurt my feelings.  I told her I just wanted truth, that I would create no drama for her and just needed to know.  My boyfriend continued to deny her.  Luckily for me, she saved his texts.  I asked her to send them to me, even though I already believed the words via our text conversation.  I gave her my number and asked her to send me the texts that she would want to see if he roles were switched.  She did. The texts were even more heartbreaking to see the words he was writing to her and he STILL continued to lie.  By Sunday I was furious, I told him he didn’t care and that he hadn’t even said it yet.  Then he said, “I’m sorry.”  (It meant so much then)  Either or Sunday or Monday, I asked her if she pictures or video.  She did and she sent them.  Then I asked if they had sex, how many times and if a condom was used. They did: once at a drive in inside of his car, twice at his parents’ house in hits studio and 3 times in his house in the bed he sleeps in with me.  He denied all of it, until I showed him the picture that he sent her.  Just to remind you, I found out on Thursday, 7/18/13, and he finally told me part of the truth o Tuesday, 7/23/13.  He still won’t admit all of the story.  I have no reason NOT to believe the woman he had sex with, in fact she was nice and felt bad that he lied to her as well.  Now he wants to regain my trust again. Yesterday, he barely spoke to me.  One of his complaints about me is that I didn’t/don’t ever sit next to him on the couch.  He didn’t ask me once yesterday.  For about 4 hours I cried off and on and he saw my tears, he never even acknowledged it. I told him I wouldn’t have sex with him till her was tested, he said “why, I wore a condom?”  Then let the CDC educate him on the types of STDs and how they can be transmitted.  I found some testing areas around town and he said unless it was  anonymoushe wouldn’t get tested for STDs if he had to give his real name and in case he did have a disease he may not be able to get covered by insurance when he finally starts to look for a job.  In the 3 years I’ve known him, he’s not once been to a doctor or a dentist.  Last night he tried to have sex with me after I took about 15 pills, trying to forget, I passed out and I still don’t know what happened because I woke up naked.  Throughout this entire week he hasn’t done anything to try to attempt or act as if he’s truly sorry.  In fact he’s sitting on the couch now and hasn’t said a word about me sitting with him/next to him.  Even though he’s seem me cry and I’ve even communicated all of this to him.  He still hasn’t said a word.  Just lying on the couch alone, watching TV not even wondering what I’m doing.  Yesterday I had to point out he didn’t wouldn’t speak to me, I had to point out he didn’t ask me to sit near him, I had to point out I knew he saw me crying, I had to look up relationship advice and I had to look up information on STDs and testing centers. The first thing he promised to do today was call and check on STD testing prices.  So far he’s played PS3 basketball, watched TV and said nothing at all to me.                I do love him, in the beginning, I probably would have married him within the first month. Now, I don’t believe a word he says and don’t know if I could ever believe him again.  He hasn’t even attempted to even suggest something to do to move past this.   Is it over?  Am I just holding on to the hope that the man I fell in love with won’t love me like that again and make me feel loved, wanted, trusted, supported, encouraged, trustworthy and faithful?  Am I just being stupid?

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    A2A, hence the response. Let's break this down logically: -He cheated on you. When confronted, he lied. -He insulted your intelligence by giving you BS reasons for why he texted an 18 year old as much as he did. He lied to her too. -He cheated on you again. When confronted, he lied again. He tried to make the other woman seem like a liar to cover his lies. Are you seeing a pattern yet? -He tried to place the blame on you for his behavior. Think about how this sentence sounds to a rational person- ' I cheated on you because you don't sit next to me on the couch'. Really? - He has shown total disregard for your grief. -You are at a point where you're crowd sourcing opinions on your relationship. So is it over? It's dead. Bury it, keep walking and don't look back. And don't spend another minute being with a guy who makes you unhappy, even a new one. Take some time to heal, get a job, become a better, healthier you and then get out there again. But resolve to be alone rather than with someone who wont respect you.

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A2A. Is it over? Yes.  It was over the first time he cheated on you.  You are not married and have no children together. There is nothing holding you to this man except drama.  You have no reason to attempt to salvage this dysfunctional mess. Get out, get a job, get an education if you don't have one, and stop wasting your time on losers and deadbeats.

Jann Hoke

You cannot trust him. He has shown you over and over again what type of man he is. End the relationship. Proceed immediately to therapy. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200. If you are in the United States and need help finding a therapist, please PM me. I could write more about the details you've shared, but really, this is what it comes down to. For some reason, you are hanging on to a man who treats you horribly. Who lies to you again and again, who breaks his promises, and who apparently sexually assaulted you when you were incoherent on medications. You need to get him out of your life and you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself why you've been tolerating this. Best of luck.

Claire J. Vannette

Whoa, how much info do you need? You are treating this like it is an educational problem and he just needs the correct information. Well you've had  the info and how long have you been holding on? This is not a logic issue. This is a lifestyle. He has shown you over and over who he is. This is not a sorry issue. It is a pathological personality disorder. Read: "Not curable" More importantly, this is about your mental issues not his. He has a right to screw every girl he can convince. In his case he NEEDS to for his value. He's willing to sell his integrity to do so. You've had all the info you've needed, yet still go back to the well that is poisoned. What's up with that? Here is a clue: 1st week of every month I spent it with my 91 year old grandmother (who lives about 180 miles away from me).  She is my love, my all, my everything.  She is the only person, besides my Aunt (who I even called Mom, who unfortunately passed in 2009) who loved me unconditionally. They are substitutes for your original loves who seem to have abandoned you at a young age. Like all kids who have been left, children then think they needed to perform to earn love. (Conditional) Sad to say, what you are doing with your lover is recreating what you had with your parents. Trying to talk him into loving you unconditionally and not leave. How's it work'n Dr. Phil? Is it over? Well, he'll yeah! Way back when. Am I just holding on to the hope that the man I fell in love with won’t love me like that again and make me feel loved, wanted, trusted, supported, encouraged, trustworthy and faithful? Hope is what you are distracting yourself with. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell. Am I just being stupid? If this were a logical equation, yes. The logical part of you seems very efficient like when you went on your sleuthing process. But this is a matter of your heart and yours is bleeding. There is blood in the water and the predictors can smell it. It isn't from him, it is from your original Parent Gods whom a little girl couldn't figure out why she wasn't lovable enough. Go get some healing and then you can find your soul mate.

Mike Leary

Get this guy and all the other distractions out of your life, and then get to work on yourself (preferably with the help of a professional). I admit to only skimming the wall of text, but when I saw "took 15 pills trying to forget and passed out" that was enough to justify this answer. Please get help.

Eric Lauritzen

You behave like a jealous person who expects to be cheated on. So you find people (or have found a person) who will cheat so you can then exercise your jealousy and investigative skills to find proof that you have, once again, been cheated on. You have created a self-fulfilling prophecy. You know the subliminal signs of a cheater, and that is what attracts you. Love, for you, is unreasonable and inexplicable and it is a drug that makes your feel high. Even being cheated on gets you excited and makes you feel like life really matters. Hell. Even taking pills makes you think the drama in your life is very important. It all comes from low self esteem. As suggested, it is probably a pattern initiated when your parents left or died or whatever. You experience it as abandonment. You are subconsciously convinced everyone who loves you will abandon you, eventually. So you spend a lot of time looking for evidence of abandonment, and surprise, surprise, you find it. That's because you know how to choose people who will abandon you. The answer is to work on yourself. The answer is to learn how to cope with your feelings of low self esteem. I say cope, not fix them, because I don't believe they can be fixed. They can, however, become irrelevant. Once you learn not to let what other people think of you control you, you will be able to see people as they are; not as you wish they were, nor as you dream them to be. You'll be able to make better decisions about the men you get involved with. You'll also be able to give up on looking for infidelity. Then you'll have a better chance at a long term relationship. Right now, you are into the drama. There's a chance that you have some kind of mental disorder, as well. Something that really gets you hung up on love and the drama of love and love as the meaning of life. I will tell you that even though I'm a male, I've been to that place. It's possible that I am projecting my experience on you, but I think the parallels are real. I think that you get high on drama (which is not wrong, but may be a problem). I hope you focus on yourself for a bit. Therapy would help. Perhaps yoga and meditation, too. Center yourself. Learn to let go of your ideas of who you need to be in order to be successful. Then start again.

Steven Dillard

“Charlie, we accept the love we think we deserve.” ~ The perks of being a wallflower If you think you deserve better, you will get better. Relationships are all about trust, sometimes much more than the love you share with your partner. Once the trust has been eroded and in your case, over and over again, it is almost next to impossible to build it again. Trust can be one of the most enduring of traits, yet at the same time so fickle, like a mirror, once it breaks, you can tape the pieces back together, but it won't be the same. You seem like a nice and a naive person. And, nobody deserves what you got. The only reason, I can think of for you wanting to get back with him, is that you found happiness with him. That relationship made you happy. But, relationships don't create happiness, and whatever happiness it does, is just superficial. True happiness lies within. Don't waste your time over that bubble of happiness again. I may have digressed from the topic, but I feel it is needed here. Spend some time with yourself. Just yourself. You will find the answers. Neither I nor anyone here can give you the answers. P.S. You may be able to trust him again, someday, but that day is not today nor tomorrow. It lies somewhere far in the future depending on his repentance and your finding your center of happiness.

Vipul Aggarwal

Perfect love wants you and nothing else.. Pure love never lies.. And the I think all of us deserve this kind of love.. Just in case you want to continue being miserable stick to the thought and the past.. And in case you think you are human and should be treated as one, move on.. You will find the right one for you at the right time.. and that time you will just seek to thank your luck/God..

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