Avant Garde jazz suggestions? "Outside" jazz suggestions?

how familiar are you with altoist/flautist/etc. Henry Threadgill's work? if "outside" yet still somehow melodic jazz is what you're looking for, his work is well worth your better examining. to that end, I believe that only 2 cds of his are currently in print, these being "Everybody's Mouth's a Book" and "Up Popped the Two Lips." I recommend both titles, which I do own myself, highly. likewise, I recommend any of his prior, now out-of-print releases on Columbia and Axiom ("Where's Your Cup," "Carry the Day," and "Too Much Sugar for a Dime" being the ones that I own of these) and also the earlier "Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket" (own it). his work with Air is nearly as impressive; if you can track it down cheap, "Live Air" (again, own it) is also certainly worth your checking out. thanks for reading!

Max & Dizzy Paris 1989 Ornette Coleman - Song X Max Roach, Cecil Taylor Miles Davis Live at the Filmore East John Coltrane Don Cherry Old And New Dreams , Playing

I love Conference of the Birds, a Dave Holland led ECM record with the aforementioned Sam Rivers and Anthony Braxton. I've always considered it the Roseta Stone of Free Jazz. Listen to it and learn how to play inside and outside the melody, how to take it apart and put it back together.

Ornette Coleman's Lonely Woman. Anything by Charles Mingus. Bit.h's Brew by Miles Davis. I have nothing from newer players. Jazz radio has left this town and I haven't spent much time listening to internet radio.

Amon Tobin - Bricolage Squarepusher - Do You Know Squarepusher Not really jazz, but idm music with jazz influence...

Thinking Plague Hamster Theater 'Nough said. *3/25 Why is it that not a single answer has gotten a thumbs-up? Has avant-guarde sunk so low that just answering a question about it gets that negative of a response? There's either too much vibe or not enough jive where avant-guarde is concerned.

What a bunch of squares have answered this question - apart from the person who mentioned Henry Threadgill, a great player. Have you listened to Braxton's amazing early solo album 'For Alto'? Incredible stuff. Check out Cecil Taylor, stunning piano player. His very earliest stuff is more like conventional jazz, but albums for Blue Note such as 'Unit Structures' and 'Conquistador' show the true Cecil breaking through. By the time of 'Silent Tongues' he is totally mature and doing his best work. Derek Bailey was an incredible English guitarist (he died a couple of years ago) who recorded with both Braxton and Taylor at different times. Try his albums 'Improvisation' and 'Aida' - the second one is acoustic and he mostly played electric, but it's great. To hear his most characteristic playing, check out CDs like 'Incus Taps' and 'Domestic and Public Pieces'. He also made a lovely and unexpected late album of standard tunes, called 'Ballads', as if to prove to anyone who doubted him that he could play absolutely beautiful conventional jazz guitar if he wanted to. Peter Brötzmann is a German sax player who is one of the major figures in free jazz in Europe. His most famous recording is 'Machine Gun', made in 1968 with seven other guys, mostly Dutch, German and English. The most earthshaking acoustic jazz recording I have ever heard. Always a tonic in the morning. Then of course, there's Coltrane's more avant-garde stuff, such as 'Ascension', 'Interstellar Space', 'Meditations'...it's all great, but then Coltrane is one of those guys who for me is beyond anything but the most informed kind of criticism. And yes, there's Ornette Coleman, although compared to someone like Braxton Ornette is positively mainstream. He's still great though. One of his most underrated albums is the soundtrack he did with Howard Shore to the movie 'Naked Lunch'. It's worth getting. If you like outside playing in a melodic context, one guy who should be right up your alley is Duke Ellington's later tenor man Paul Gonsalves. Gonsalves played a 27-chorus solo during an Ellington concert at the 1956 Newport Jazz Festival that did much to revive interest in Ellington's then-flagging career. He was a fabulous player, very inventive, very forward-looking, very subtle when he was allowed to be - a terrible drinker and inclined to nod off on the stand, but get yourself 'Ellington at Newport' and you will hear him in all his glory. It's one of the greatest live albums ever in any genre, btw, now that the full concert has been restored by Columbia's production team. Blivet - I take it back, you are not a square either. But I live in Ireland, we don't have PBS and I have never seen anything by Ken Burns, whoever he is. I just listened to the album. And Gonsalves plays wonderful stuff on Ellington's Far East and New Orleans Suites, doesn't he? So blah to you. :)

if you're one jazz music lover try listening to tony bennett's songs... or paul anka's new album - rock swings