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Universal Suffrage Or Right to vote by every citizen is good or bad?

  • Universal Suffrage: it means that every citizen is allowed to vote. In most countries, any citizen who is at least 18 years old and not a committed a crime has the right to vote (excluding India, here we elected Convicted felon as Ministers). Most of us accept and celebrate our universal suffrage. But is it a good idea? In my opinion, no it is not a good idea. Now let’s understand the meaning of vote. What is a vote? A vote is a piece of control over how the government spends taxpayer money. This is the most critical way by that an individuals can control/ influence governmental decision-making. This will of the people is the basis of the authority of government. So we shall be more careful while doing so. Below are some points which I suggest should be implemented by various legislation. ·        Poor people are liable to sell their votes. So this right should not be given to them. ·        Illiterate persons are not able to exercise their right to vote properly, so this right should be given only to the educated citizens. ·        The system is very expensive. Large-scale arrangements have to be made for the election.   Now what I am saying is not a backward idea from a time when voting restrictions were used to exclude certain groups from voting on the basis of gender, properties or race. As a Matter of fact, what I am saying is the Implemented by many s institutions. For example consider the corporate world. If you own share/stock in a company, your shareholder’s vote valuation is in proportion to your ownership of the company. What do you think? Please put some rationale supporting your opinion.

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    Let us try to extend your argument and see where that leads us. Women are only going to vote for those who their husbands ask them to. So women should not be allowed to vote. Does this argument sound reasonable? Doesn't to me. Yet, it was among the top rational arguments from anti-suffragettes. Every legal adult has equal responsibility and right to the nation. Right to vote for everyone is a natural consequence of the same. There are lots of people - poor and rich, literate and illiterate - who would vote for the candidate who promises what they think is advantageous to them rather than what is good for the nation as a whole. If such sophisticated form of bribery happens all the time in politics, there is no point in barring the poor people from voting just because of the possibility of them selling vote for cash. I would actually claim that you are being condescending towards the average poor person in India. From personal experience, the average poor Indian is much more political than the average rich Indian. This is expected too, since the price of rice going up by Rs. 2 is going to affect him much more than the rich. What gives you the idea that all poor people are going to vote for anyone who gives them 100 bucks? Same can be said about literacy. Basic political literacy can exist without conventional literacy, and probably many of the conventionally illiterate are more politically oriented than you or me. Let us consider the shareholder analogy now. I would say that all Indians have equal share in the nation. Otherwise, how do you quantify ownership? If it is proportional to wealth, how many votes should Mukesh Ambani get? Requiring income/literacy cutoffs will be equally silly. There is also one practical scenario to consider. All of us are selfish. If the government is going to spend 10000 crore on subsidies, the rich person will prefer that it is on petrol for his car rather than food for the poor. If voting rights are taken away from everyone below the poverty line, suddenly the government will have much less incentive to make policies that benefit the poor. That is in no way going to help the nation as a whole. Overall, it is going to be as backward a step as restricting voting rights based on gender or race.

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Raziman has given a wonderful answer. Suffrage is not a "contribution", its a "right" given to the citizens. The citizen is not legally obligated any duty towards this - it is an unconditional right given to that individual with no strings attached. That's what a democracy means. If its any other way, then it is not democracy, its slavery. A fundamental key to understand here is that the "government" is merely a social contract. If you exclude people from it, they will turn against you, depose you and form their own "government". Corporates are profit-making bodies. They are not obligated to any social responsibility.  On the other hand, a government is for the people and by the people.

Abhirup Dutta

Raziman you had presented a valid argument but i am not totally agree with you. Allow me to put some more points here. I am not advocating the restriction over voting rights based on gender or race. What I am saying is that rights should be given to the person who understands the meaning of rights. Do you agree that all the rights come’s with some fundamental duties? If a person does not understand this then we should not give him/her the right to decide the faith of country. Some time you have to sacrifice a little share of freedom for the good of country. Let me put a very simple analogy for this. We have a driving license system because we are worried about our safety at roads because if a person doesn’t know how to drive but allowed to drive then imagine what will be the scene i.e. he will be dangerous for self and others.             As for the safety of road transport we have implemented the driving license system so don’t you think there should be a system to identify the person who is eligible to vote? It will be good for the country safety and if we choose deserving person as our policy makers we will be more prosperous altogether including the poor and rich indiscriminately.   Now coming to your next point by literate here I mean politically literate. There should be a test which will evaluate the awareness of the person and if successful then that person will be allowed to vote. Giving right to a person who does not understand the value of vote is just like sending a kid for shopping without a shopping list as a result kid will end up buying chocolates and other childish stuff thinking that everyone will be needing chocolates like him. Another more real example is appointing a person as IT minister or rail minister who does not even understand the ‘T’ of Technology. This is only possible because we are practicing the “Universal Suffrage”. By shareholder policy I don’t mean that votes should be weighed against the tax amount paid by them. It can be a criteria for identifying the person for the above mentioned test along with the other criteria.

Amit Deol

Universal Suffrage will be good only if the option of "No Vote" or rejecting everyone on the list is provided. Also if the total number of "No Vote" is higher than all the other options, then each of the candidates in the list should be disqualified from contesting any election for the next term as voters have rejected them as their representative. Rather all those candidates who get less votes than the option "No Vote" should be disqualified for contesting in next term. Such a electoral reform if implemented and publicised extensively will help improve the quality of leadership.

Ankit Pandey

Universal suffrage is a bad idea in a democracy in which people are taxed. Essentially the government CANNOT do anything, they cannot write laws, enforce them, run courts, have a military etc without money. That money comes MOSTLY from tax revenue (some comes from user fees for services). As such, it only makes sense that those who actually pay taxes either equal to or above the amount of services in whicht hey consume should be able to vote. Otherwise, you will simply end up with people who get more in services than they pay in taxes voting to get more stuff at the expense of other people who pay more in taxes. This is a HUGE problem in countries with welfare states, where people who pay very little in taxes vote for wealth transfer from those who pay alot in taxes to those who don't. This is widescale theft and if it goes on long enough will destroy a country and it's culture. This is precisely why in the when the US government was first formed a person needed to own a small piece of land or have X amount of dollars to vote. In short , the voters need to have some reasonable skin in the game to vote. This is just ONE reason Universal suffrage is a bad idea, there are many others.

Robby DeNicola

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