Will I be right in calling many of the people, who take to the streets/social media to protest the rape attacks in Delhi/Assam, as selfish and hypocrites?
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Firstly, I want to clarify that am not a male chauvinist/misogynist or by any means support the heinous crimes. I too have sisters & a girlfriend and I think the molestation/rape attacks are abhorrent and I support action against the perpetrators. I am trying to question a certain mindset that I observe, and if this mindset is hypocritical. I feel angry at the general apathy of Indians, who protest only those situations that personally affect them. I am sure many of the people who protest the rape attacks do so only because this problem directly affects their personal safety. Surely, the women among the protestors and the men are worried about their personal safety and those of their friend/sisters/aunts/mother etc. Everyday, more than 500 farmers commit suicides along with their entire family, due to poverty and caught in the clutches of inhuman moneylenders, bureaucracy, corrupt politicians etc. Where do these people (the protestors) go when these issues hit the news? The urban Indian (men & women), who feels so strongly about women safety (which they should, by all means), seems to be doing so driven by media frenzy or trying to score brownie points among friends/followers or just being plain selfish and being worried only about their personal safety. If he/she is really concerned about human rights violations, why not protest the said injustices to farmers? There are women involved there too you know, 3 - 15 yr old girls and 40 yr old mother, all committing suicide. More than 18,000 farmers commit suicide a year, and that is > 500 per day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers'_suicides_in_India). But farmer suicide doesn't affect our day to day lives, does it? Evil moneylenders don't bother us, do they? We don't deal with them in our lives, so why care? And newspapers won't cover these on prime time or on front pages, will they? Who the eff will care to read or see these news items? Out of sight, out of mind. If a girl molestation or arrest over facebook like can get the Parliament talking and passing bills, all due to public outcry, would India be a better place if the same public cries out loud for all heinous crimes (farmer suicides is one of the biggest issues, there are many like these), so that politicians take note? Will I be right in calling these people, who are protesting in the streets or updating statuses in Facebook or tweeting against the molestation attacks, hypocrites for selfishly protesting for issues affecting them and remaining quiet on major issues affecting their Indian brothers & sisters in low strata of the society or in rural areas? Again, I want to clarify that I am not against the protesting of female molestation attacks in India (refer 1st para) and I sincerely hope the rapists burn in hell. I am only questioning the selective bias. Update: I just read the sad news that the victim died of her injuries. May she rest in peace. Extremely sad that the value for life is so low in India. May the Almighty give strength to her family members to bear the loss. And I hope the rapists/murderers are brought to justice.
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Yes, we are selfish and No (in this case), we're not hypocritic. Selfishness doesn't mean hypocrisy. Also there is no problem with being selfish as explained: We've always been an inherently selfish race. But if everyone cared just for themselves it'd be problematic (and anarchy). In order to make us sensitive to others, we've moral codes (and then rule of law). There are various levels at which these moralities work- God (religion), family, nation. Whatever it be- the first step is to create a sense of identity. So you're made to feel a citizen of India, a follower of a particular god, a member of your family and so on. Further you're made to believe any hurt to either of these affects you personally. That's how the notion of identity works. They first have to convince you that you are affected. That's because human beings are selfish. Advertising campaigns therefore make the customer believe they are important. Rulemakers understand there are too many problems in life to be concerned about and you'd care about those most probable to affect you personally. The best example would be Uncle Sam exploiting American's sense of identity with the nation to conscript in WW2 and subsequently saying 'it affects you'. Now, let's take the example of rapes. First- girls believe it could have been them. Therefore they're concerned. Then we males are sensitized to this issue with the approach 'the victim could've been your mother, sister, wife'. Why? Because without this there's the chance we wouldn't have cared and looked at it as just another crime. Respecting women is just a corollary of how our moralities work. We respect women because our mother, sister, wife are women- parts of our identity. When this part of our identity is hurt, only then we look. That's how this rhetoric of 'mother, sister, wife' sensitizes us to the issue constantly. For any issue one has to be sensitized to how it affects them. However there are 'moral crimes' where I may not be sensitized enough. For example, taxes. One may try rhetoric of your money helps the nation. If my national identity is strong, I'll pay taxes. Else rule of law must intervene to ensure the issue affects me more directly. Same with rapists who can't be sensitized enough to respecting women. The same happens with everything- be it farmer suicides or mass-killings in Syria. Let's take your specific case of farmers once. What are some ways to make middle-class people believe it's a big problem which can affect them: If all farmers commit suicide, how will you get the grains? Your Indian brothers in villages are dying. Such poverty is not good, while you are luxuriating. With such levels of poverty and depression, out of desperation they make to violent means spoiling your night's peaceful sleep. Though third sounds morally most sound (because we hear it), it's the worst way of approaching. Speaks nothing about how it affects me, also blames me. There maybe better ways to sensitize than these. But here (2) doesn't affect my sense of identity as much as rapes issue because I know lesser farmers than women, while extreme suggestions of (1) and (4) which affect more directly though possible are improbable. Indeed you may see sensitization as a political challenge. What political parties do is take the issues affecting a relevant crowd, sensitize them to it directly, move to the next demographic tell how the same affects them indirectly (convince directly) and so on. There are too many issues and the party highlighting most relevant issues affecting the maximum crowds- in best possible manner- wins. Conventionally communists take the mantle with the issue of farmer suicides. They fail miserably because they consistently use (3). Even news competes amongst itself amongst for being most relevant to the reader. It gets ordered according to the impact it would've on the largest section of readers. Based on identity issues, newspapers decided rapes affect sensibilities of crowd more than farmer suicides and is therefore published. So sorry my friend if you're disheartened but we're a selfish race. There are too many issues in everyone's life to be concerned about and industries like the media feed their stomachs by highlighting the most relevant issues to us. All industries compete for our attention to give us the maximum comfort. The government which prospers is which can act on these relevant issues to us the most without affecting our pleasures. Meanwhile you can think how much you concern yourself about these problems (and what you do regarding them): Poor Somalis? Lesser because our Indian identity dominates human identity? Endangered tigers? Yet lesser because human identity dominates animal identity? End of world? Affects us directly but how probable is it?
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By your logic, we cannot protest against farmers suicides too. Because there are millions of people dying in Africa and by that scale our farmer suicide is low. Don't you feel sorry for the poor in Somalia and Rwanda? In fact, we cannot protest against anything as there are always things bigger than the issue concerned. Actually, rape is a much bigger issue than even the heinous farmer suicides. According to National crime statistics 17000 farmers die every year from the suicides, whereas more than 22000 women get raped. I'm sure both these numbers are drastically understated. Humans will always be selective and biased in how we perceive the world around us. This is part of our fundamental survival mechanism. For instance, one attack on a family member will be considered worse than the murder of 1000 people in a continent far away. It all comes to how close the impact is and how similiar the victims are to us. The recent rapes are primarily a law & order problem that has a clear target - tighten court and police system. Farmer suicides are a part of a deep socioeconomic problem. People really don't know whom to protest against. Finally, protesting against A doesn't mean we condone B. Don't introduce a false dichotomy.
Balaji Viswanathan
No. It is not hypocrisy. This is simply our system at work. Let's first understand how our political system is supposed to work: India is a federation of many states, each of which has a government elected by the people. And even within a state, there are smaller units, all the way to Panchayats, which have elected representatives to look after the interests of their constituencies. This means that people are supposed to vote for regional leaders who will uphold their interests.This is why different political parties campaign on different issues in different states. Some run on a platform of farmers' rights, like in U.P., some run on the platform of law and order and illegal immigration, some run on a infrastructure development platform like in Gujarat, etc So, the government of each state is supposed to be elected on its ability to tackle the issues faced by the state. And if the government does not do this job properly, then it is the right of the wronged constituents to put pressure on the government to do its job. In this particular case, the issue is the extraordinary number of rapes in Delhi. This latest incident just galvanized the population, but the issue has always been there. So, it is the right of the Delhi people to pressurize the Delhi government to take action on this long-standing issue. Facebook activism is easy, you can float any post: about rapes, farmer suicides, maltreatment of sportsmen, victims of terrorism and you will get a lot of shares and likes and comments. You can even get any online petition signed. The real commitment is shown when people come to the streets. And people have come to the streets to protest now, but which people? Delhites! I haven't yet read any report of street-protests related to this case in any other part of the country. So no! There is nothing hypocritical here. It's democracy at work. I elected my representative. He/she is not doing the job well. So I am now going to make sure he/she cannot ignore my plight. No one on protest is claiming that they are the next Gandhi - at least not any normal person. They are just asking for their rights as citizens. They are not full-time activists. They are normal people like you and me who have to earn a living. There are so many issues in India that if they start protesting for every single one of them, they would not be able to go to work. So they do what normal people in a democracy are supposed to do - protest on issues directly affecting them. As far as the farmers are concerned, they also ask for their rights to their elected representatives. And there are full-time activists and NGOs who help them do it in the most effective manner. However, you would notice that even the NGOs have very specific agenda. One NGO will help farmers, another will help beggars, another for women facing domestic violence, etc. So, should we call them hypocrites because each of them is unable to take on all the ills of India? Or should we call the farmers hypocrites because they only protest for their issues and not about rapes in Delhi? Now, finally the role of media in this. This is where you might have some point. When the media shows news about farmers' protests and marches, perhaps they do not present it as well as they did in this case. However, I will have to admit ignorance in this area, since I stopped watching TV years ago. And I am sure much of your angst is caused by this popular news medium. Let someone else write an answer about this aspect.
Anand Silodia
I am a heterosexual so I care less about LGBT issues and I did not participate in their protest for rights. My dad is a farmer , so if there is any protest against farmer suicide , I will participate. I have a sister so I would have protested for strict laws against sexual harassment If I am in Delhi. I will not complain about my neighbor( who is a business man ) If he does not participate in our farmer suicide protest the same way no one from LGBT community complained about heterosexuals not joining their protests. We are affected more if anything happen to us, our family, our village and so on. If something bad happens to our family we feel devastated. But if the same happens to our neighbor it's just a news to us. There are thousands of protesters because they could easily relate to the situation of the 23 year old girl to any of their family members. Sister, wife, girl friend any of their beloved ones. So calling this is as hypocrites is baseless. By this logic every human being is a hypocrite. You are a hypocrite because you care about only Indian farmer suicides. What about Syrian civilian deaths in the revolution ? What about Rwandan Genocide? Will you raise your voice only if it happens in your country? You hypocrite!!! This claim dilutes the meaning of the word hypocrite. So please don't call them hypocrites. If you want you protest against each and every single issue known to mankind go ahead and do it. May god be with you.
Sathish Kumar
It's ironic that this question is the answer in itself. The reason you ask this is because you have witnessed the news, maybe the protest too firsthand. And have had your circle talk about it incessantly. That is the world view you stay in. Look at the other side now. Do you think that for farmers, the very same you are referring to, are moved as much as you by these protests. Most likely not. But they are moved by their own issues. Those protests too happen. You just don't know of them, because: 1. You don't need to 2. That section isn't as "media-friendly" as the section that protested against the rape. They don't tweet. They don't rush to news channel (and even vice versa). So what you call selfishness is a basic instinct to proclaim your own situation as the one that requires most attention. And by that logic, even the farmers are guilty of it. Nothing right or wrong about it.
Ankur Warikoo
Middle class India has all the sexy tools! It's beyond hypocrisy! It's fashion! Who gives a damn about farmers committing suicide? They're not spectacular. That kind of crap happens somewhere out there, where Indian urban middle class hardly ever ventures. Indian urban middle class is apathetic towards just about everything, unless it is a mob opportunity to show up in great numbers in public, usually thrown into a frenzy by electronic, English speaking media. Terrorism is sexy! A tsunami is sexy! A movie star being stopped for a few hours by US Immigration authorities is worthy of freaking hours of news, including that bum calling a press conference to tell us that his life isn't too much worse off for the experience. All of that is worthy of Indian urban middle class attention. Farmers dying? Come on. Where's the story in that?
Bala Senthil Kumar
Straight answer to your question : NO you would not be right to call them hypocritical. AFAIK hypocritical means practising one behaviour and promoting another in others or through speech. Unless those coming out in protests were rapists themselves and were merely objecting to others raping at will. Fat chance of that, you will agree. Yes you would be right to call them selfish. Add to that list all those who protested on the net too, myself included. They were selfish in their desire to have a better place for women. They were selfish in their desire to shake the government awake. They were selfish in their desire to get gender inequity into the open. After all they too would benefit. My question is so what? I have a different take on selfishness: I do not believe that humans are capable of any act that is NOT selfish. The degree may vary but that is a fine nuance. Ultimately all acts are selfish. Not all selfishness is bad. In fact most of the advances that we make come out of a selfish desire to make the world a better place. Some examples - We write answers here on Quora to add to the knowledge pool but also because it makes us feel good. Social workers work with the poor in difficult conditions because it makes them feel important as change agents. Sadly we use selfishness only in the pejorative sense. We need to redefine it. PS : It is not necessary to have sisters / girl friends to abhor the act of rape or protest that it happens. In fact that may be a touch hypocritical.
Makarand Sahasrabuddhe
Hey. My wallet got stolen twice while traveling in DTC buses recently. Why didn't you come out to help me? Awkward? Just like your question. 1. Rape is not an ordinary crime. No, no, no. It questions humanity. It is stealth of someone's right to respect, happiness and free will. It is like murdering someone yet leaving them aliveâthe worst kind of suffering a human can be inflicted to. 2. If you don't mind, may I ask what has been your contribution in protesting against any of these issues? Farmer suicides or the upsurge in crimes against women? 3. Can you count the number of problems in the society we live in? I can't. I think they are infinite in number. Start from a small scale... domestic violence, marital rape, thievery, vulnerability of senior citizens, dowry etc. Let's go a little further, maybe to the level of problems that are local to our surroundings. Illicit consumption of electricity, hygiene, stray animals, cutting of trees, breeding of mosquitoes, and so on. Go up further and you expand to burning problems that range from caste discrimination to corruption to illiteracy to unemployment to poverty to malnutrition to whatnot! How do we adopt a "non-selfish approach" (according to your definition) and fight for all these causes? 4. Coming back to the recent rape incident, it brought about the kind of movement where we have to be heard because we have the right to be heard because even though the government may try to fool us otherwise, we can easily fight back saying, "This can happen to us as well. Now you tell me what are you going to do about it?" This is precisely the reason why the authorities have not been able to openly go against the public wrath. 5. Farmer suicides are a burning problem of the Indian economy. It is not just about "out of sight, out of mind". A clear understanding of this upsetting issue needs deeper understanding of the root causes. It needs us all to be educated about farmer policies in India, the fallacies on part of the authorities, the flaws in the provisions, the real reasons why they are not getting enough help, the real reasons for their failure, the growth or loss of their agriculture, and so many more things that I cannot think of right now. You know why? Because there is no ONE reason behind the problem. It's a far more complicated issue than what the masses would understand or relate to. Why and how do you ignore this fact? Although I feel disgusted at having to compare two burning issues, in this context it goes without saying that the actual reasons behind crimes against women are far more clear, visible, attributable and avoidableâwhich further urges the necessity of the questions that have only begun to come up now. 6. I would request you to provide your valuable suggestions on how to educate ourselves better and protest against any of the crimes that you think deserve greater attention, rather than comparing the reactions that they generate. Rapes have been happening in the country for so long now, so long that reading about them stopped affecting us, as if we had turned indifferent to it. It is only unfortunate that it took a crime of THIS extent for us to waken up and realize that things are going really wrong. And yet, you choose to follow this track of thinking. By the way, it took a revolt of this scale for you to doubt the public's intentions and question their indifference to the problem of farmer suicides. WHY THE SELECTIVE BIAS?
Sugandha Banga
If you seriously think people being selfish or worrying about their own safety is hypocritical or wrong,come out of the mask and welcome to the real world bro.Majority of the people are selfish in this world. The concept of democracy in itself works on the core definition of selfishness.Every person thinks for themselves and if majority of people thinks that a specifc party/candidate is good for him/her that party will come to power.If you think someone else will take care of you that will infact lead to chaos which is a bit evident in our country. Now in case of rape protests major population of country (yes far more than the people affected directly by farmer suicides) is being affected by this.Men are feeling insecure about their sisters and wives and women are feeling insecure about them selves and hence the protests. In case of farmer suicides or other issues raised I can think of three reasons i) No one is coming to your rescue : It is the duty of farmers and the people affected by the farmer suicides directly or indirectly to protest against this.The people who are not affected by this wont protest and you cant expect them to. If majority of the population are unable to realize that they are being affected by farmers suicide it is their ignorance not hypocrisy. ii)The intensity to which you are affected : In case of farmers suicides only farmers are being affected heavily including death.For others the affect is more like a slow poison and they wont feel the impact until couple of years where as in case of rapes there is a direct impact on majority of people and the impact is immediate and irreversible. iii)Corruption: On the other hand ,most of the people actually think that the root cause of the farmers suicides and other issues is corruption and yes we have seen lot more people to come on roads to protest against corruption. On a lighter note I think you are being a hypocrite by complaining everyone is selfish and you are not :P
Anonymous
I think every person alive, is selfish and hypocritical. Even if mildly so. Even twins in the womb try to get the best share for themselves. If you ask most farmers of our nation they won't look upon very favorably on a girl who was out with a boy at 9 PM in the night. To be seeking a world free from selective biases and prejudices is too idealistic. Perhaps all these protestors are individually motivated by misguided notions of activism which will lose steam over time. Perhaps their protests are essentially guided by direct fears for their own physical bodies and that of their loved ones. Perhaps a lot of people, amongst those protestors contribute significantly to what leads to the deafening, dangerous silence of our society today. However, we can never tell if, when or how all those inviduals together, with their selfish interests, could possibly trigger/catalyze a collective change in the mindset. They might or might not. However the possibilty, even if remote, even if inconveniencing or frustrating to the most cynical amongst us, must be given a chance. For we desperately need a change. The change that it brings about might be insufficient, or minor. But I would still like to give it a chance.
Chandrima Dhar
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