Are there any affordable US Universities for International (Canadian) graduate students?

Do students of Indian Universities other than the top ones get into world class universities for a graduate or a doctoral program?

  • All I have seen is only the IIT's cracking more into Top uni's rather than normal ones though more talented and experienced, just because of the tag!? Edited: I meant to talk about students excluding BITS and NIT's also

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    If you want to enter those top notch universities to pursue your passion and accomplish something substantial, I would first like to cite the case of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venkatraman_Ramakrishnan, winner of the 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Chemistry before I proceed with my answer. He couldn't get into any IIT. If you think he was an exception, keep reading: I've seen students from institutes in Bangalore like RV and MSRIT get into the best universities in US/Asia/Europe. Take the case of a person from a college called Skyline Institute of Engineering Technology (affiliated to UPTU) working as a researcher at NUS. Also, a person from SASTRA University was shortlisted for an Erasmus Mundus program while I was not. In case you do feel that you are being discriminated against, it is maybe because all the reputed Professors are in the IITs, BITSs, NITs (sometimes), so it is a little tough for students from non-IIT-BITS to get good recommendations. In that case, you might want to work as an RA at IISc or some IIT. However, if you're from an IIT with a good GPA, you have a better chance of getting through the selection process than others, but even if you don't get through to the best university in US, do not get disheartened, follow your passion, work hard for it and there is nothing you cannot achieve (unless there is a recession and they decide to chuck you out of the country :P). Having said all of the above, I personally feel that if you want to do something substantial in your research career, you should try to get out of the country as soon as possible. Previous answer: I know a person three years senior to me from my institute, NIT Surathkal, pursuing a doctoral degree at Berkeley, one in UCLA, Oxford, ETH, many people in UofM, in CMU so on... People do get admits from Stanford, Imperial, Oxford, Cambridge,  but they are too expensive, so they opt for other universities. Also, the fact that most toppers here are settle-down-in-life type or MBA type. I guess if they apply, they'd definitely get scholarships in places like Stanford etc.

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I graduated from M. S. Ramaiah Institute of Technology (MSRIT), Bangalore. Among the college-mates in my network, few are attending the following US universities: Carnegie Mellon University (Carnegie Inst. of Tech & Tepper School of Business) Georgia Institute of Technology University of California, Los Angeles University of California, San Diego University of Michigan University of Pennsylvania Cornell University Purdue University University of Minnesota, Twin Cities University of Massachusetts, Amherst Ohio State University University of Florida University of Southern California University of Arizona Arizona State University North Carolina State University SUNY Stonybrook Indiana University Bloomington (Kelley School of Business) University of Utah University of Texas Rochester Institute of Technology .. and many more. Needless to say, it all depends on your motivation, passion and requires hard-work to achieve this feat. Peace!

Pavan Kumar

Well, if you "have seen only the IIT's cracking more into Top uni's", you clearly haven't seen enough. A whole lot of students from BITS Pilani and NIT get into these top universities. In fact, it is possible that more people from BITS get into top universities abroad than even IITs. AFAIK, a couple of these universities (I believe Stanford is one) have a club/union of BITSians, simply because there are so many of them there. And this is when BITS has just three campuses, compared to 15 IITs, and over 20 NITs. If you meant to include top institutions like BITS and some top NITs in your question as well, you'd still be wrong. Yes, of course, students from the top institutes in ANY country would have a better chance than those from the second and third tier ones. Even within the US, a student from Harvard would have much better chances of getting into a top program at another top university than, say, one from University of Iowa. This is simply because the fact that you're from a top university is a pointer to the kind of student you have been in the past and proves consistency. It means that you have been among the top students regularly. Also, it shows that you've received top quality education with all-round development and a curriculum that is similar to that in the top institutes in the world. As far as the "just because of the tag" part is concerned, that is NEVER true. NO top university takes in students on the basis of the institute they belong to. An IITian with a low CG and no extra-curriculars and co-curriculars has practically zero chances of getting into a top university (unless, of course, he is filthy rich and can donate a new building to the institute). No student getting into a top institute like IIT or BITS gets the rest of his life served on a silver platter and spoon-fed with a silver spoon. You need to have a good all-round profile, good academic records, a great personality, and basically anything and everything that differentiates you from the crowd. The differentiation may come from academic, social, extra-curricular, or personal achievements and experiences, but it has to be there. A major reason why there are more students from a particular college or university getting into the top universities is that these institutes provide their students with the opportunities, facilities and faculties to create that differentiation. The personality development, academic and social exposure, competition, and simply the environment in these institutes is enough to change a person's mindset within a short period of time. Yet, only the ones which realize where they are and value it are able to extract a most out of these experiences. In fact, if you move out of engineering and technology and look at all disciplines, probably the maximum number of students going to top US universities from India belong to Delhi University. This is again simply because of the quality of students, facilities and faculties at the university. But that, again and obviously, doesn't mean that people from other universities don't get in or are "not given a chance" to get in or are even at a disadvantage. If you just browse through the profiles of Indian faculties at these universities, especially in non-technical fields, you will find people from all over the country who went there for higher education and then even stuck around as faculty members. Any student, from any decent institution, with the required enthusiasm, can create such an atmosphere around himself on his/her own. If YOU are motivated and YOU take the lead, then the institute hardly even matters. In fact, an IITian with the exact same profile as yours might even be at a disadvantaged in such a case since you reached there on your own, while he/she got a good head-start. It showcases entrepreneurial and initiative-taking qualities of yours and proves you are a highly motivated student. Maybe the best example of this, and also of ANYONE from India going to a top US university, irrespective of where he/she did his/her under-graduation, would be that of Pranav Mistry. He graduated from Nirma Institute of Technology in Gujarat and then did his masters at MIT. The reason was simple - he had taken the initiative to do projects and build stuff on his own. He pursued his interest and made some prototypes for his projects and ideas. And while at MIT, he was invited to work at the MIT Media Lab, where he designed and built prototypes for the Sixth Sense technology. He even went on to give a couple of TED talks on the Sixth Sense. So it isn't really an issue if you're not from a top institute right now. It is what you're doing wherever you are that matters most. One more, and probably very important reason why there are more IITians there is this very mindset of yours. A lot of people take it for granted that since they're not from a top institute already, they can't get into another one later, and therefore never apply. Well, if only the IITians and the BITSians apply, it is but natural that those are the ones who'll get in. If you never try, you never know! Remember that any top university in the world will admit you for WHO you are, not for WHERE you're from. And that is why you need to differentiate yourself from the other applicants. Participate in activities, take some initiatives, build something on your own, do meaningful projects, make your experiences worthwhile, and most importantly, throughout this time, know what you're doing, why you're doing it and learn from everything that you do.

Ashesh Kaushik

I am from Patna science college. I bet you haven't even heard of it and now work in imperial college one of the top ten. One can get in anywhere if they have determination.

Anonymous

I'm from M.S. Ramaiah Institute of Technology, Bangalore. I'm applying for an MS in Industrial Engineering for Fall 2015. Got my second admit from Purdue University. Just maintain a great GPA and do good & relevant projects and internships. And most importantly- write and present yourself well. (I mean through your SOP and CV). P.S- I failed the IITJEE.

Pranay Kekre

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