What does it take for an international applicant to be admitted to read philosophy, politics and economics at Oxford University?
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From my experience - I have met a lot of PPE students - you need to have three characteristics to stand a chance of getting in (this goes for both domestic and international students): 1. You have to be analytical. Other words for this quality include reasoning ability, rationality, flexibility, ability to critically assess arguments etc. You should be able to break arguments down into their pieces (premises, conclusion) and point to exactly why arguments are flawed; you should be able to come up with intelligent approaches to very complicated questions ("Is morality subjective?"; "Does probability exist in the objective world?") on the fly; you should show the ability to understand challenges to your arguments and, if proven wrong, the ability to shift your position quickly. Anecdotal evidence suggests that PPE tutors like to get you to make an argument & then challenge you. Since the tutors are likely smarter than you and certainly more experienced than you, you can often get torn apart. This is a good thing (they wouldn't do it if they thought you coulnd't handle it). The wrong response would be to get defensive, or simply to assert your position again without acknowledging the objection. The right approach would be to acknowledge the challenge, state a reason for accepting/rejecting it, and in case you do end up accepting the challenge, draw out the implications of your revised point of view. To give you an idea, in my interviews I was asked (among many other questions): If you were put in charge of the UN tomorrow, what would be the main challenge you would want to tackle? Why? Why is morality about more than just taste? Could I possibly convince an egoist to be moral through logic? If not, why not? Democracies tend to go to war with each other far less often than other types of countries. Give us 3 explanations as to why this might be true. This improves greatly with practice (I was much better at it after graduation, because PPE is 3 years of arguing intensely about everything under the sun, both with your hyper-intelligent tutors and your hyper-intelligent peers.) 2. You have to communicate well. This extends to both reading and writing. Read up on the Pyramid Principle, the basics of essay writing (which you are hopefully already a master at), and the basics of debating. Ideally practice debating if your school offers it. You need to get practiced & fluent at debating serious issues with rational, intelligent people. Find someone smart and talk to them about issues. Argue a position and then get them to challenge you on it. Get honest feedback. Even consider videoing yourself and note any tics you have, whether you tend to ramble too much, and so on. Ideally you are concise and speak at the right level of detail. Again, this comes with practice. Writing well is equally important. Check out Orwell's 'Politics and the English Language' and read a lot to get a sense of what good writing is. I should add that you don't need to be a super-polished speaker in your interview in order to get in; they prefer smart people who aren't great communicators to the inverse. It's an academic institution, not a consulting firm. Still, getting better at this will not hurt your chances. 3. You have to demonstrate previous academic achievement. This boils down to getting good grades at school and showing your intelligence in the personal statement (e.g. through impressive achievements or evidence of reading, general smarts etc.) PPE is an extremely demanding course, so they want to make sure you have the intellectual horsepower to make it through. If you're analytical, write/speak well, and have a good academic record, you stand a chance of getting in. If you don't, remember that admissions processes are flawed at best, and that not getting in says very little about how good you are. There's a great Paul Graham essay on that, (http://paulgraham.com/judgement.html) which you should go read now. Good luck!
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You need a few things from my experience of working in this system. First, you need a staggering amount of money. British fees are high; overseas fees are much higher, and Oxford is a very expensive place to live. It's also a massive advantage (close to a requirement) that you come from the social elite of your country - even British students overwhelmingly come from the richest 10%. Second, you need excellent grades at school. Third, the Oxbridge admissions system is based on an ability to be verbally dextrous and socially adroit and confident. Having worked in that system, and its admissions process, I think it's possible to 'over-egg' the analytical thing. The Oxbridge entrance process is, like the British legal system, and the Oxbridge tutorial process that follows from it, adversarial. It is not designed to quest after the truth (to discover the best potential students). You need to be able to formulate strong, clear (but only moderately plausible) opinions on things you know little about and defend them with confidence and vigour. They're assessing the way you answer, rather than the actual answer you give. Tutors certainly won't 'tear you apart', but verbal confidence is crucial. As the first criterion and the third often correlate, this is not usually a huge problem. Rich and privileged people often have a confidence that poorer and more marginalised (or simply working class) people don't have in terms of defending arguments with little or no evidence. Finally, you need to have a particular profile of success in non-academic activities, typically in two areas. These could be sport, political or NGO campaigning, music, theatre, social service, artistic endeavour, cadet service, and so on. I've actually met quite a lot of people who have got through this system who areâ¦. well, not that bright, but who, because of their schooling, training and social position are 'at home' in this type of adult, interactive, adversarial, elite world, flourish in this setting. Mostly, though, you will need to be intelligent and focused; but if you have the necessary confidence and fluid verbal abilities, you can blag it. It should be noted that all university entrance to Russell Group universities is structurally biased against poorer people and working-class people, not just Oxford (and Cambridge).
Leif Jerram
It takes: 1. Excellent grades across the board; especially History, Maths and of-course Politics, Philosophy and Economics, if you had the opportunity to take these at school. 2. Very good (but not perfect) English - tutors are aware that you will improve hugely in the first weeks of your degree in an all-English environment. 3. An inquisitive, curious mind that enjoys engaging and debating new topics. 4. The ability to think on your feet and debate: as the PPE tutorials discuss the essays of the past week, you must be able to engage in discussion with tutors about particular arguments you made. 5. A logical, mathematical mind, which is required for both the economics and philosophy courses (and a bit for politics as well, of-course ;) ). 6. Knowledge / enthusiasm about world affairs. You should be able to discuss what's going on today and has gone on in the last ca. 5 years in current affairs. Perfect knowledge and understanding is not required, but intelligent thought and some insight into key issues going through the news is expected. As a PPE-ist your interest in the subject is expected to be reflected in the reading and awareness of key events going on in the world around you. Furthermore, for the application itself you have to demonstrate your motivation and experience through the achievements and things you have done, e.g. internships, reading and your thoughts on what you read, social responsibilities, courses you took etc. You should think early about whether you have gaps to fill so that at the time of application you have enough content to write an interesting and dense personal statement. (Tutor at http://oxbridgebewerbung.de - support for applicants at top international universities).
Katharina Kunze
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