How To Undershave Hair?

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  • I have thin, wavy hair. Since I was about twelve, "doing my hair" has consisted of washing it and leaving it down, or, on a not-shower day, putting it up in a ponytail. One of my goals this year is to learn how to have nice-looking hair when I want to. Help! I like being a low-maintenance person. I don't like showering more than a couple of times/week, and with two small children, plus part-time school, it's hard to make the time. So my hair routine tends to be: Day 1: Wash, comb, air-dry, wear down. Day 2-4: Ponytail. Repeat. Sometimes on Day 2 I throw in some braids or put it partly up, but really, it's the same. When it's short, I have to wash it every single day or it just looks greasy. I have thin hair that is straight, wavy or curly depending on length and humidity. It tends to be greasy -- the day I wash it, it looks great. Any day after that, it's lank and oily-looking. Over the course of years, I've tried fancy shampoo, Trader Joe's brand shampoo, hippie shampoo without parabens or sulfates, and the apple cider vinegar no-poo method, with no apparent change. I thought the hippie shampoo was helping, but I started using it while pregnant, and after having the baby, my hair actually seemed to get worse. I'm 29. Here are some reference pictures: My hair http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabyed/11806862714/ a washing (I'm on the left) http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabyed/11807200556/, up in a ponytail (I'm the mom; the baby's fine now.) The last time it was http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabyed/11806917034/, pre-bangs (I'm on the right) I have no idea what to do to make my hair look better; I feel like I missed some kind of lesson in high school when suddenly all my peers began having nice hair. I kind of guess at hair cuts, and often cut my own hair. I don't know how to use a hair dryer. I don't know whether or how to use conditioner (it doesn't seem to make any difference) or any products. I don't like it when hairdressers put stuff in my hair that makes it sticky or stiff. When I've asked the people who cut my hair for advice, I haven't gotten useful information, and I have social anxiety that makes doing that hard. Here's what I'm looking for: 1) Ideas for a haircut. I've been thinking about going short again, as my six-month-old is into pulling my hair. I'm fine with or without bangs. 2) Ways to make my hair look good, especially lower-maintenance ways, that don't involve just putting it in a ponytail. I'm expecting to have to step up my routine a bit. I'm open to books, videos, websites, being convinced that product is actually okay, whatever. I'd just like to look more put-together.

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    Girlfriend. Tough love here. One, lose the bangs. Grow them out. It's going to be a pain in the rear for a while, but the bangs are doing nothing for you. Two, cut it (ok, rephrase, "get it cut"). The third picture is by far the most flattering. Notice that this is a pretty unanimous opinion. Also, as someone who has frequently cut/colored/etc her own hair, but is a hairstyle junkie who watches youtube style videos like it's a second job, I don't really recommend you do it unless you feel like you can handle layers and get them even, which is really really hard to do on yourself. It takes me about 2 hours to do it and I've done it a bunch of times. Three, get thee some good conditioner, not the V05 or Suave on the bottom shelf at the grocery. And some more of that sulfate-free hippie shampoo. Your hair getting worse after having the baby probably wasn't the shampoo's fault, it was the baby's fault. Post-baby hormones make your hair fall out in clumps. I'm 14 months postpartum now, and a third of my hair is about 4" long because it started falling out when I had my son and KEPT falling out until about 6 months on. Don't trust this. Then: (1) Wash your hair with the sulfate-free shampoo. Take your time to work it all over your scalp and massage it in - it doesn't suds as much as normal stuff. (2) Use a good thick conditioner. You can try different ones, but put a bit on the middle-to-the ends, not the scalp (unless you notice your scalp hair getting really frizzy) and rinse. You shouldn't need to use a lot - maybe a quarter sized amount for your hair. If you have to use more than this, you're using crappy conditioner. (3) Whenever your head feels like it's getting super greasy, substitute your normal shampoo for the sulfate-free... but not every time. This will get rid of any bad buildup often enough to keep you purty, without frying your poor hair too badly. (4) When you get out of the shower, put a little bit of product in it... rub the stuff (mousse, pomade, shine serum; I recommend trying different ones out and seeing how you like them, other commentators have given some good suggestions) into your palms and then run your hands through your hair (like you're combing it with your hands) trying not to get all of it in one section. Do this while it's still soaking wet, then press most of the water out with a towel (don't rub). Finally, for the lowest-maintenance style, take a fine-toothed comb and run in through your damp hair to make it smooth (and to help distribute the product); after this - hear me out - rake your hands a bit roughly through the lengths and shake it out. The comb "sticks" your damp hair together so it looks smooth; the finger-raking breaks it up into chunks. Then DON'T TOUCH IT. Let it dry like this. My guess is you wind up with pretty, smooth, chunky waves, and with a little practice it takes about 20 seconds to do after a shower in the morning. On days when you have a little more time you can try a blowout like a few of the above people suggested (I still think this will work best if you cut your hair short, though). Don't do this every day, especially if you have thin hair that breaks easily. Once it's straight, you can leave it a few days before washing it again - a spritz of dry shampoo on the scalp is your friend. I usehttp://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp?id=30300396&color=029&cm_mmc=SEM-_-Google-_-PLA-_-55042006624adwords_labelsW_BEAUTY_HAIR&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=COfCrbXe6rsCFcY7MgodkzUALQ, they have various colors.

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Instead of just doing plain old ponytails on days 2-4, step it up with some different ways of putting your hair all or half up. - http://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=hair%20braids are in, so if you are good at braiding you could try french braiding your bangs/front pieces of hair back and then bobby pinning the braid behind your ear, like http://www.thesmallthingsblog.com/2012/06/dutch-braid.html. - If your hair is longer you could try my favorite lazy hairstyle, which http://www.ohsoprettythediaries.com/2012/08/the-tutorial-brilliant-braid.html but is actually very simple to do. - I'm a big fan of the http://www.extraordinarymommy.com/featured-content/hair-tutorial-how-to-do-a-sock-bun-keeping-style-in-your-life/ but I realize not everyone likes to have a big donut of hair sitting on the top of their head. http://blog.isavirtue.net/2012/01/how-to-sock-bun.html is a very lady-like alternative to the ballerina-style sock bun that still utilizes a rolled up sock to fake more volume (which is great for those of use with thin hair!). - Even if you don't want to wear a sock bun out in public, they're great at giving your hair heatless http://www.kaylaaimee.com/2011/10/i-heart-pinterest-sock-bun-curls/ or waves if you put your damp (not wet!) hair into a sock bun overnight. Since I cut my hair shorter, the sock bun gives me more 'bouncy volume' than waves or curls, but it still is an easy, fun change of pace. The trick is to place the sock bun on the top of your head, not at the nape of your neck. - There are http://www.lamacitems.co.uk/ourshop/prod_3036519-Pearl-Headband-PreOrder.html http://thebeautythesis.com/2012/11/23/lace-headband/ http://community.stylecaster.com/post/16931 http://indulgy.com/post/0lBLe5Aph1/headband out there that won't make you look like http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31400000/Matilda-matilda-31436678-1024-768.png. They're great for getting your hair out of your face when the front pieces are a touch greasy. - Speaking of greasy, get thee some dry shampoo to keep your hair from looking lank between washings. I think I've tried every dry shampoo known to man, and http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000Z65DZG/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/ is the best stuff ever. It has a light, lemony scent that masks that dirty scalp smell, a small applicator tip that makes it easy to target the greasy spots (hairline, temples), and it rubs in easily so you don't look like you've suddenly decided to bring back powdered wigs. This has the added benefit of giving your hair a bit more texture so that things (bobby pins, sock buns, headbands, etc.) stay in place better, and certain styles (half-up, anything involving teasing, etc.) look better and last longer. None of these things require you to use a blow dryer, curling iron or straightener, drastically change your haircut or hair washing routine. The trick is to watch a couple YouTube videos if you're unsure and practice a lot at home. I've found Pinterest to have some good tutorials for hair ideas, but be aware that a lot of them require fancy braiding techniques or like, insanely long mermaid hair, of which I have neither.

gumtree

The easiest thing to do is probably the most expensive thing to do, but it's the only thing that worked for me after 27 years of hating my hair. Start shelling out for expensive haircuts. If you cut your hair yourself, it's probably going to look crappy. But if you go to a nice salon (get recommendations for specific hairdressers, call the salon, ask for an appointment WITH JEANINE or whoever) and talk to the stylist about what you want - a wash and go, low maintenance haircut - they will be able to look good. However, you may have to shell out $80 to $150 for the privilege. Maybe after you get a cut that you like and a shape that flatters your face you can take some pictures to a less expensive stylist and still get good results. Also, go in prepared. Spend some time gathering pictures of haircuts that you like, print them out, and bring them with you. Here's the http://www.pinterest.com/brmq/short-short-hair/ I started when I wanted to bring some pics to my hairdresser. This might be shorter than you want but short hair is very consistent and very low maintenance.

bq

Our hair is similar, though mine's a bit thicker. I LOVE mousse, even though it seems to have gone out of fashion for some reason. It keeps my waves and makes my hair look shiny without any stiffness. I just put a little in when my hair is damp, and I don't comb afterwards. I think the bangs-less style was better for your face! Also, bangs are fussy and annoying and get greasy before the rest of your hair. Bangs are like the opposite of low-maintenance. Also: yes yes conditioner! And occasional deep conditioning. If it's not too conceptually gross for you, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000Q7WYUG/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/

showbiz_liz

FYI, conditioners never contain sulfates. They contain alcohols, silicons, and oils, usually. Sometimes they will say SULFATE FREE! on the bottle, which is akin to putting "cholesterol free!" on a bag of vegetables. I've never been able to do conditioner-only, and trust me I have tried (thick wavy/curly hair here). (A) you have to use a conditioner that doesn't have non-soluble silicons that will build up in your hair, because more silicon won't get that out; so yes, it will build up and get gross/greasy. It's really hit-or-miss based on your hair type and the brand of conditioner you experiment with. If you're using conditioner with silicone (which is most conditioner) this phase will last ALWAYS. People who are super into this stuff are really picky about what conditioners they use, and read ingredients on everything. This is also where the "change your products now and then because your hair will get used to them" myth came from - lots of things will leave buildup, and changing products can get rid of that buildup, but it's got nothing to do with getting used to anything, it's simple chemistry. (B) You can't use any products with non-soluble silicons or anything greasy, because you'll never get it out again without a good surfectant (aka sulfate) and your hair will be sticky and gross forever again. Basically it just wasn't worth it to me. I use gentle shampoo about twice a week, and a clarifying (sulfate) shampoo every couple months or when I feel like I have a lot of product buildup. HOWEVER, on in-between-washing days, if I want to freshen up my hair, I will totally rinse with water only or conditioner only. You don't have to shampoo every time you shower - the less, the better, generally speaking.

celtalitha

OK, loved your last short haircut, no bangs. Just to start there. That cut is great on you. But some grown-up lady hair tricks? (These took me years to learn....) * Find a great (expensive) haircutter and WATCH THEM WORK. Sometimes you can repeat their results at home (not always) if you do cut your own. * Wash every other day. Put the shampoo on the top of your head, not at the roots. Put the conditioner on the roots, not at the scalp. * For the days you don't wash (hello timesaver!), invest in http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005LS7FE0/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/ and some http://www.ulta.com/ulta/browse/productDetail.jsp?productId=xlsImpprod3560097 * Buy good tools. A good http://www.totalbeauty.com/content/gallery/p_best_worst_flat_irons. A good ceramic http://www.totalbeauty.com/content/gallery/p-best-blow-dryers. A good boar bristle brush. * I have a https://www.carolsdaughter.com/portal.aspx?CN=B5ED582610C9 (meant for ladies of color, but excellent for all!) that smells like vanilla which is an awesome final touch. * If you want to knock people's socks off for a special event, treat yourself to a blowout. Watch how they blow your hair to be fluffy, straight and with lovely curled ends. Repeat at home.

amoeba

I always thought shelling out for fancy shampoo/conditioner was a ripoff, but my stylist turned me on to Paul Mitchell's Awapuhi products and they are the bomb. I have wavy hair similar to yours and the Awapuhi Wild Ginger Hydrocream Whip (oh god it's embarrassing even typing that out) is the most awesome mousse. I get lots of compliments on my curls now. Nthing the comments that the shorter, bang-less style looks great on you. Regular cuts (long-haired ladies can do without a trim for months and months, but to look polished with a short or medium-length cut, 6-7 weeks between cuts max) too. Have you considered a https://www.google.com/search?q=graduated+bob+wavy+hair&espv=210&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=njrsvLa13nsbSM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcTXZ_Qqs_xbiwHf14Q0_1ZZSgN9DUph94Ggeh9y8TO-fxplAzTKRQ%253B200%253B241%253BETd3avbOWJ3JDM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.thehairstyler.com%25252Ffeatures%25252Farticles%25252Fhairstyles%25252Fright-bob-hairstyle-for-square-face-shape&sa=X&ei=TTbLUtuiNszloASGyoLgCg&ved=0CDYQ9QEwBQ&biw=1366&bih=642#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=njrsvLa13nsbSM%3A%3BETd3avbOWJ3JDM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fs3.amazonaws.com%252Fths_assets_production%252Fattachment_resources%252Fattachments%252F2333%252Foriginal%252Ftry-graduated-bob.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.thehairstyler.com%252Ffeatures%252Farticles%252Fhairstyles%252Fright-bob-hairstyle-for-square-face-shape%3B200%3B241? This would be short in the back, and then chin-length curls in the front. Depending on the cut, it can look a bit dated on people with straight hair but for wavy and curlyheads it's current and awesome.

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I like that "shorter" pic! You suit the no-bangs look. Like joan_holloway, I also suspect your hair is probably curlier than you think. Have you tried http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/product-reviews/research-institute/washing-my-hair-with-conditioner? This is one of those things recommended on curly-haired forums. I do this a few times a week instead of washing with shampoo and following with conditioner (which is what I do the rest of the time), and it works very well--like you, I don't use much in the way of styling products, so that probably helps. It makes my hair feel clean and soft, and my hair usually airdries to nice waves. If I need to blowdry it I use a http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/wavy-hair-type-2/how-to-use-a-diffuser I second the people who are encouraging you to splurge for at least one expensive haircut with a really good stylist. Be 100% honest with them (e.g. tell them exactly how much time you want to/are able to spend styling your hair. If that is zero minutes post-wash, tell them that) and ask them what cut would work well with your hair and face shape. I am super up-front about how little effort I put into my hair and how much I dislike styling products, and no (good) stylist has tried to dissuade me from my lazy ways; instead they've created styles that WORK without too much effort and grow out nicely. And, if your hair is long enough for a ponytail after your new cut, the http://www.saralynnpaige.com/style/simple-gibson-tuck/ is a nice simple style for a change of pace.

hurdy gurdy girl

Wanted to say in the short run: I'm growing out the bangs. I've been conditioning the bulk of my hair and only shampooing my scalp, and I'm enjoying a lot more texture. Still searching around for a stylist and a babysitter so I can go to the stylist. Thank you all for being honest and giving me lots of ideas to try.

linettasky

Ideas for a haircut Don't cut it yourself, and don't go to Great Clips. Go to a nice place recommended by someone - even a stranger - with a nice haircut. If that's out of your price range, find a cosmetology school and ask about their process for being a guinea pig / model. Admit to the stylist that you're a bit clueless. They are trained to know how to pick out a good style that matches you and your needs. Pick out some things you like in their books while you wait, but let them make the final call. My intro is usually "look, I'm busy, I'm an engineer, and I'm not particularly fashion-conscious. I do a lot of sports, and work in a conservative industry. My ideal haircut is about this long [gesture], and should not require a lot of maintenance. Can you suggest something flattering and explain how to maintain it?"

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