Looking for a spy camera to deal with harassment from coworker
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I work at a very small company, no HR or process of accountability. It's basically myself, the coworker, and the boss. The coworker is someone who's been with the company for over 40 years, and we absolutely need his abilities for the company to function, so there's no chance of his being fired or seriously punished. I've voiced complaints to the boss, threatened to quit, but nothing really changes. However, I have a feeling that my boss either doesn't totally believe me, or thinks that I'm being oversensitive. If I had video evidence of my coworker in the act, I think something effective would be done (for instance, he may decide that I could work from home on most days, which is something we have loosely discussed in the past). The coworker purposefully moves things around in my workspace when I'm not there, with the direct intention to frustrate me. He hides things, breaks things, throws my papers on the ground, and I'm afraid that he's even done things to the food I keep here. I want to set up a spy camera so that I can show footage to the owner and, if necessary, the police. (Any insight into the legality of this, or what other legal recourse I might have, would be appreciated. FWIW, I live in New York City). My coworker is larger than me, stronger than me, and I believe he has anger issues. I have tried confronting him in the past, and it has only exacerbated things. In general, I do not feel safe confronting him on my own (although he has never explicitly threatened to harm me). I want a camera that either has decent motion detection, or would take continuous video recordings, and save them directly to a folder in my computer. I want to have video recordings that capture the entire work day, if necessary, so that I can skim at a later time to see if he's done anything while I wasn't there (for instance, when I go to use the bathroom, or out to lunch); so, I think this would need to be a wire-powered camera, rather than battery-powered. I would also prefer that it be in the guise of a common office area item, like perhaps a calculator, AC adapter, keyboard, etc. The video quality is not a factor for me, so long as you can decently make out what's going on. Access to the camera from a smart phone app would be a major plus. I've done a lot of searching on Amazon, and I can't seem to find anything that both meets my criteria and isn't outrageously expensive. I also can't seem to find items with many reviews, in general, so I'm wary of shelling out money for a potentially fragile and/or dysfunctional product. Any recommendations, advice, or personal anecdotes of similar situations, would be very appreciated. :) (Let it be known, by the way, that I have no intention of quitting, so please do not offer this suggestion. FWIW, I am also indispensible to this company, and I have no reason to fear "making too much trouble over this," regarding my standing with my boss. I absolutely need to keep this job, at least for the foreseeable future).
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Answer:
Yes. What MoonOrb said. During a legal dispute with my last employer, my attorney flat out said he would not represent me if I had made illegal voice/video recordings of my supervisor (I hadn't). Knowledge and consent of a recording = legal. Secret recordings = not so much. Why not just tell boss and jerk that you will hire an attorney if the behavior does not stop? Keep detailed notes and be prepared to follow through. Empty threats have a funny way of ending badly.
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Other answers
OP, if all you want is camera recommendations, I suggest asking the mods to remove this from your original post: Any recommendations, advice, or personal anecdotes of similar situations, would be very appreciated. :) You asked for other recommendations or advice and received both.
craven_morhead
Why don't you just go to your boss and say, "Since you haven't addressed this, I'm working from home from now on"? I mean, seriously. If you're really unfireable, just do whatever the hell you want.
mskyle
Before you do this, why don't you ask your boss: if you had evidence of this harassment, would he take you seriously and allow you to work from home most days? Because you're basing this operation on an assumption that, given the details of your question, is likely not valid.
sm1tten
[Sine_Agraphia, I appreciate this is a frustrating situation for you but you need to not continue to get combative with folks answering your question; take what you can of use from the thread but understand that folks here are trying to help and are not the source of the stuff you're dealing with and it's inappropriate to get in their faces for trying to help.]
cortex
FWIW, I am also indispensible to this company, and I have no reason to fear "making too much trouble over this," regarding my standing with my boss. If this is a company where the only two other employees either actively harrass you or disbelieve your complaints, why on earth do you care if they even do sink or swim? http://www.spytecinc.com/video-devices/nanny-cams.html?gclid=CPLYmdLymbsCFa9lOgodSVEAEg a list of nannycams, one of which looks like it's disguised in a clock. But - I know you said you weren't going to quit because you need this job, but I still would urge you to start looking for another job as well as looking into this angle. Becuase if you are indeed indespensible to this company you would probably be just as indispensible to another one where they would also treat employees fairly.
EmpressCallipygos
A few observations, as a manager: 1 - No one is indispinsible, especially not in this economy, where I can find great candidates, quickly and cheaply. 2 - I would fire an employee who setup a spy camera to spy on other employees, regardless of the legality of the action. You're not the sherriff of the cubicle police. 3 - See #1.
NotMyselfRightNow
FWIW, I am also indispensible to this company, and I have no reason to fear "making too much trouble over this," regarding my standing with my boss. No offense, but http://www.forbes.com/sites/jmaureenhenderson/2012/04/09/you-arent-indispensable-and-why-you-should-be-okay-with-that/. Steve Jobs wasn't, Larry Page and Sergei Brin aren't. Even POTUS isn't indispensable - the world kept spinning after LBJ became President after JFK was assassinated, after all. And you aren't indispensible, either. If you do decide to go down this path, you need to plan for there to be unpleasant consequences for you, and IMO that plan should include a job search. Also, seconding MoonOrb, you need to run this by an employment lawyer. Your office space is not "yours" in the same way your home is, and the law might have something different to say about doing this. Have you tried to resolve this one-on-one with Other Coworker yet?
schroedingersgirl
Any recommendations, advice, or personal anecdotes of similar situations, would be very appreciated. :) Have you at any point voiced solutions? As in what you need done to help the situation? From the way it sounds, you've told the boss you can't stand the coworker's behavior, threatened to quit, now you're planning to spend money to provide video evidence -- which will completely destroy any hope of ever getting along with your coworker -- to prove that you should be taken seriously about this matter. Well, then what? You say your boss "may decide" something you "loosley discussed"? Well, that sounds like you're leaving it entirely in his court to remember and grant you. That's not going to happen. Before even getting the camera, come up with a solid plan, take it to your boss and say "this is what I need to be an effective employee in these circumstances." It sounds like you're not being paid any mind because you're not coming up with any constructive resolutions to your problem. No one else will, I guarantee it. The ball for this is totally in your court.
griphus
Yikes. I do not advise being secret about the taping. I would tell your coworker that your desk is being monitored by video. Put a sign up to that affect. BUT, I don't advise you go this route, period. This is a toxic work environment and if you haven't already, you need to document everything that's happening. Take photos of your workplace before and after. Document things he says and does. Then, speak to an attorney and then present this to your boss and let him know that you have council and this needs to be addressed appropriately. Oh, and buy a locked cooler that you keep at your desk for your lunch and beverages. Read what you wrote. Read my reply again. You don't deserve to work in a place that requires you to do any of this. Consider getting another job.
vivzan
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