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  • I need to cut a woman out of my life, but I don't want to cut her out of my life. What's my next move? A polar vortex of cold fun facts follows... At the company Christmas party in December 2012, I met in person a woman with whom I had only previously had email contact, as we worked in different offices. Our chemistry was flowing at 'hello,' and four hours later, we were sitting in her car singing and talking because neither of us truly wanted the evening to end. Next up was a facebook friend request (she initiated it), followed by random facebook messages (also initiated by her)...and mere months later, I had a work friend with whom I was exchanging upwards of 150 messages every day. The relative slowness of our jobs allowed for constant communication, and we soon began getting into each other's personal lives; I gave her (requested) advice on her dating life; she helped me in my search for new employment. We were, basically, close colleagues who happened to communicate via text message instead of at the water cooler or in passing in the hallways. As I gather these things sometimes do...things escalated. She sent me a photo of her trying on her bridesmaid's dress for the wedding that September; photos of various outfits along with selfies followed. I found a new job that allowed us to continue our workday sharing of jokes, stories, recipies, songs, etc. We played a game of Would You Rather, opening the door to a lot of frank discussion about preferred sexual positions and places, how many people she has slept with (eight), and so forth. We met for dinner, drinks, and dancing. We went to a concert. Dinner, drinks, and dancing again. The dancing was risque, to put it mildly. I caved and downloaded Snapchat for further photo sharing. We message constantly. Everything above was spread throughout 2013. It's important to note that, with the exception of the three times we have gone out together, we never have contact on weekends or evenings. Our relationship started as a 9-5 work relationship, and it has mostly stayed that way. On some level, I love what we have built. Her messages make me happy. Her photos make me happy. Her sense of humor is amazing. She has expanded my musical tastes, and she's a ball to drink and dance with. She's beautiful, from her hair down to her shoes. I wouldn't go so far as to say I love her, but she's a light in my life. And...I need to cut her out. You may have figured out where this is going (and I really buried the lede): I'm married. I can lie to myself and tell myself this is just a friendship. It's not. When she got excited about a guy she met in August, I was jealous. I was upset. I was mildly happy when things didn't work out. I'm completely irrational...I've been known to glance down at my phone for absolutely no reason just to see if she has sent me a message. My job is not hard, so messaging her doesn't really take away from my work, though on some level it does. If I send her photos, I have to delete them from my phone because I'm paranoid my wife will go through my phone and ask why I took them. Furthermore, though I can say many positive things about her, she is not an angel. I've caught her in white lies. She is lazy, overly narcisstic, lacks ambition, still lives with her parents (at age 30; I'm 33, since I bring up ages), and is terrible at relationships with men she wants to date. Even though she's beautiful, she's one of those women who tell you she's not. Despite the fact that we can talk for hours, our shared interests are minimal; she doesn't care a lick about sports, and she doesn't read. I couldn't even imagine introducing her to my friends; she is not the kind of person I have ever really associated with, much less been friends with, in my life. I mean - brutal honesty here - I think, deep down, I just want to have sex with her. [Some words on my marriage, because they obviously play into this situation: My marriage is happy. It's not fulfilling, but it's happy. What I mean by that is that we have a house, we have an amazing 2-year old son, we have a great circle of friends, we have a 13-year history to draw on, we have trust (I know, haha); frankly, anyone looking in from outside would think our marriage is excellent. In a sense, it is, but what this woman above has done is touch on the things that I don't get from my wife: the ability to let loose, go dancing, drink until we're silly...basically, she lets be the person that the Saturday Night part of me wants to be. My wife is not physically attractive, our sex life has never been good, and I'm almost to the point where we don't even have fun together. Trust me: We have worked on all these things. We've communicated these issues to death. We try new things, we utilize babysitters, we got a hotel room for our most recent anniversary. But I still feel like it's lacking a lot of the life that I really want it to have. This isn't a new development; it's just become more clear as I have aged and our relationship has pleateued.] This 'relationship' aside, I've never cheated on my wife - even with all the things above, this woman and I have never kissed; we've barely even hugged. But what we do feels wrong, and I don't think anyone reading this would necessarily disagree. I've never broken up with anyone, much less anyone I really don't want to break up with. But frankly, this will end, and it's just going to get harder to end as we continue growing the relationship. So, what do I do? I feel like I'm just scratching the surface...there's more information I can share in messages, if that would help you answer. Judgment-free answers would be greatly appreciated.

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    I've never broken up with anyone, much less anyone I really don't want to break up with. I just re-read your question and saw this. This is not why you're having such a hard time calling things off with the woman you're having an affair with (because that's what this is: an emotional affair). This is why you are refusing to confront the fact of your own unhappiness and the unhappiness of your marriage. Because if you do fully face the fact of your unhappiness, then you know on some level that you have to take responsibility for confronting all the possible options that exist as a result. And one of those options is that you decide to end your marriage. I suspect you are doing everything you can to avoid confronting this because you don't want to have to do something that is unfamiliar and uncomfortable, and which will be the catalyst for something as painful as a divorce. Morever, I suspect that one of the major reasons you don't want to do this is less about the pain it will cause to your wife (though I think you're aware of that, and probably feel bad about that), and more about the fear of what this will mean for your sense of self and how others see you. In other words: all those friends who think you have the perfect marriage? You don't want them to think you're a bad guy. You don't want to think of yourself as the bad guy. And yet, it seems pretty clear that at this point, you don't really want to be married. So how do you reconcile not wanting to be the bad guy with not wanting to be married? You transfer the responsibility for all of this on to another person's shoulders -- in this case, two other persons. Scenario 1, Having an Emotional Affair With Someone Else, functions essentially as a speeding train: you "somehow" find yourself on board and can't stop it, in which case the other woman is the bad guy (that narcissist who can't take compliments and slept with 8 other men!) who pulled you into all this. Scenario 2, Making Your (Fat! Unattractive! Unsexy!) Wife So Unhappy That She Initiates a Divorce, functions essentially as what a friend of mine has dubbed the Reichstag Fire method of breaking up: you light the match to burn everything down, but someone else gets the blame. Either way, these scenarios are the mark of a coward. I know, because I cowardly looked for a runaway train of my own to end my marriage when I was in my early 30s while my own husband was pulling a Reichstag Fire on me, and several years later (well after I was divorced, and had moved on to my present relationship) a now former friend of mine cowardly tried to cast me as the runaway train in his life to get him out of his own unhappy marriage that he didn't have the guts to face. In every case, we all had to find the courage to face what felt unbearable, and to take responsibility not only for having made the choices that led up to that point, but also for the lives we genuinely wanted to lead. For me, it meant getting divorced and figuring out what I really wanted in my life (and not just romantically), which eventually helped set the groundwork for a happy, healthy, long-term relationship. In order to be happy and to be capable of building a happy relationship (whether with your wife or with someone else down the road), you have to grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your life and your marriage and your future in a way that you have managed to avoid for 33 years. You have agency. Stop kidding yourself that you don't. It's time to own it, no matter how frightening or hard that is. You have to accept the fact that you are a person who may have to break up with someone (well, you certainly have to break up with the other woman; you may also have to break up with your wife). Of course it's hard to even conceive of this. But there are times when the hardest thing to do and the right thing to do are one and the same. This is one of the things that we learn on the path to becoming an adult.

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It really sounds like you aren't doing any one any good right now. Your wife has been 'paranoid' about you having an affair for a while... And you friggin were! You tell the world that the woman you're cheating with isn't someone you actually respect- you even go so far as to tell us how man sexual partners she's had (wtf do you want us to get from that? Are we supposed to think less of her or...) and you're pretty open about how you just want to bone her, but I am getting zero feelings of empathy from you toward anyone. What a terrible thing to do to these women- to engage with them and use them when you don't really like or respect them. Do your wife a favor and stop gas lighting her. I can't imagine you are telling her the truth, and clearly she knows something is up. If there is any indication from your other questions, you are actively making her more and more crazy by living this bullshit and telling her she's just paranoid and insecure.

Blisterlips

Actually I would like to pointedly disagree with the people who say you should confess your attraction/inappropriate attachment to this other woman in any way. While on the one hand, she COULD be horrified to find you're married, or horrified to find you're attracted, and make your job easy by cutting herself out...I don't actually think that's how it will play. I think you will tell her, and then you will use her (probably fairly intrigued) reaction as an excuse to sleep with her. Because that's what you want to do. So instead you're not going to say jack shit about being attracted to her. You are going to say that you need to focus on some work and parenting responsibilities, and so you're going strictly professional with all your work friendships for a while. Then you are going to block her number, and find a marriage counselor, and tell the TRUTH to that marriage counselor, because your wife has been in the dark about a whole fucking lot, based on your question history, and she deserves better than that. She deserves honesty from the man she married.

like_a_friend

"My wife is not attractive". That's cold. Holy crap, that's cold. If I found out that my partner flatly referred to me as "not attractive", I'd....well, it would be the start of the end of it all. Honestly, if I were you, I'd finish driving my life off a cliff, in the hopes that I could patch it back together once I'd hit bottom. Split from your wife - a woman you are preventing from finding someone who actually loves her*- and have sex with this woman. Pay your child support. Perhaps once you've gotten out of this godawful situation you'll be able to be more of a stand-up guy. Also, think about what you're teaching your kid about marriages - that they're something grudging, where the man thinks the woman is ugly and boring and he checks out emotionally. That's what you'll teach your kid to expect and recreate. *I have a friend who's fat. Who has been varying degrees of sorta-fat and quite fat. She's never had trouble attracting men, and although she has a striking face it's not like she's the plus-size version of Scarlett Johanssen either.

Frowner

Right before you met this woman you asked a question about your marriage that portrayed it as very unappealing to you (wife was overweight, not paying you enough attention, was boring and didn't want to go on adventures, you were burdened by responsibility etc) in which you buried the lede there that your wife had recently given birth. You were give a lot of advice in that thread. Right after that thread you knowingly began an emotional affair/flirtation, apparently not taking any of the advice of the hive mind. Now you are back, once again recognising the adult responsible thing you should do but trying to justify why you are the exemption. I feel very sorry for your wife that you have been deliberately chipping away at her security all this time (dollars to donuts she knows you are cheating and is heartsick) and blaming her for being insecure. Frankly, you need a mentor or other adult in your life (a therapist) who will bluntly tell you to either act like an adult or definitely leave so your wife can find a healthy relationship. Right now you can't have a healthy relationship with either your wife or your mistress. My advice would be to contact your mistress once more and simply say "please don't contact me again" and block her. She knew what she was doing, that you are married, and does not deserve any more than that. Clearly you would not be able to maintain any type of healthy boundaries with her. You work in different companies and have no need to be in contact any further. The energy you have been pouring into the other woman can now be focused on your family. With a lot of support I think you can grow up and stop hurting the people you love.

saucysault

It's important to note that, with the exception of the three times we have gone out together, we never have contact on weekends or evenings. Our relationship started as a 9-5 work relationship, and it has mostly stayed that way. Why is it 'important to note' this? Because it makes you look like not such a bad guy, since you've kept her separate from your home life? Bullshit. Talking about sexual positions and sending each other selfies is cheating on your wife, whether you do it on the clock or not. If I send her photos, I have to delete them from my phone because I'm paranoid my wife will go through my phone and ask why I took them. See? Cheating. Otherwise you wouldn't need to do this. I couldn't even imagine introducing her to my friends; she is not the kind of person I have ever really associated with, much less been friends with, in my life. What, despite her being a 'light in your life', with 'an amazing sense of humour', who is 'a ball to drink and dance with' and is physically beautiful? Strange. I mean - brutal honesty here - I think, deep down, I just want to have sex with her. No kidding. (And by the way, 'burying the lede' halfway down is coy and irritating. Why not just admit in the first paragraph that you're married and having an emotional affair with a colleague?) My wife is not physically attractive No, you are not physically attracted to your wife. There is no such thing as an objectively physically unattractive person. our sex life has never been good So your sex life was bad for over a decade, yet you still married her and had a child. You made your choice. You are not some victim of fate, here. I feel like I'm just scratching the surface... Here's the thing: I know it feels like this to you, and I'm honestly not trying to be bitchy, but you are over-dramatizing this situation. Everyone's own drama seems unique to them, but cheating on your long-term partner with someone new and exciting is an age-old story, in which only the details change. You're being selfish, and you know it. You're putting yourself before either of these women, but worst of all, before your own child. For his sake, you need to make a clean break with the colleague (kindly and truthfully), 'fess up to your wife, and go to therapy.

Salamander

Just adding one small thought that I haven't seen anyone else suggest yet. In addition to stopping the constant texting/messaging with this other woman (other posters have already given great suggestions for that), you will probably then have a void...because you now view the constant messages/IMS/texts as rewards. So what will you do with that down time? I would start texting your wife, a few times a day. Try different things.A joke.Plans. Whatever. Request that she send a picture of your son during the day. Reach out to other friends/buddies, too. But fill up your time/world/brain with those other people. I'm not a counseling/therapy type person, but this is one of the times that I'm on ask metas side on this.I would get counseling for both you and your wife. If you haven't checked out Gottman, see if you can find some of his books. HE bases his ideas of relationships on research.

Wolfster

You sound narcissistic, selfish and in love with suffering because it absolves you of having to make really difficult choices, live with the consequences of those choices, and move on without making excuses for yourself. If I had to slap a diagnosis on you as an armchair psychologist internet stranger I'd say your were pretty immature and maybe even a case of arrested development. And I'm not buying the false humility in your narrative; I think you're faking that, just like you're faking most things. You come across as pretty empty to me, bewildered as to why, and blind to the obvious reason that you've got nothing real invested in your life. And, without anything at stake, you need drama to make you feel anything at all. And that's particularly sad because you have a child. To that - the first year and change that you have a kid is a litmus test of the strength of your marriage and your ability to accept responsibility. Many, many marriages fail during this period because babies are awesome - in the truest sense of the word - but utterly brutal, unforgiving task masters and the sleep deprivation alone will make you wish you'd focused instead on being a really great uncle or aunt. Staying together for the sake of your son is a terrible idea in your case because, in my opinion, you don't come across as having the self-awareness - real self-awareness, which isn't just a well-written or acted fake out but honest to goodness depth and complexity - to truly put your son first. And that is the deal with kids. They come first. All these shenanigans with this obvious head-case girl are time spent not putting him first. All this hostility towards your wife, this projection of your own self-loathing onto her, is not putting him first. His mother is the single most important person in his life. She deserves not to be hated and put-down by his father. No person deserves that. So, how? Well, you do as advised many, many, many times here and get your head to a head shrinker. You find the courage in yourself - somewhere, it's probably underneath all that self-loathing - to say to your therapist that you settled in your marriage, you don't love your wife, and you literally cannot leave. You say you need help to actually make the break you have to make; like, you might need to do it in a therapist's office so that your wife's obvious pain won't overwhelm you and make you chicken out and promise things will be different (again) and then go through this whole crisis again in a few months. You leave. You pursue this woman. You have sex. You both get bored and disgusted with each other in a few months. Then - THEN - you put yourself in real therapy. The kind of therapy where you don't ask questions like, "How do I leave my wife?" but "What is responsibility? What is character? What is sacrifice? What gives my life meaning? Who the fuck AM I?" I really do hope you can gut up and get yourself onto a professional's couch Monday morning. My fear, though, is you'll probably just cheat on your wife with this woman some more until it ends badly. I fear that will just foment a bunch more ill will between yourself and your wife because she's probably not as dumb as you think she is; she just feels trapped, like you, in a bad marriage with a kid. And I also fear your kid will grow up thinking that's normal. If you really accept your responsibility as the parent to this little boy, you will try to change yourself as much for his future as for your own. Good luck.

TryTheTilapia

I recognized your user name from your previous questions about your wife. You need to get into therapy and figure out what you're doing with your life and your marriage before you cheat on your wife in an unforgivable way- frankly, you may have passed that point already if your wife has no idea how important this woman is to you.

MadamM

Lord almighty. You're determined to drive your life straight off a cliff, aren't you? Your past posts, the hivemind's responses, and your reaction to them are telling. You've asked us what to do about your marriage repeatedly. You've been told, repeatedly, and you clearly have chosen to do pretty much the opposite. So as a serious question back at you: why are you still asking what you should do when (judging by the past) you have no intention of doing that thing? The answer is (just like it has been for the past two years) personal and couples therapy, and to start the process of growing up and taking responsibility for the choices you've made. First, you cut this woman off because it's the right thing to do. Then you get in therapy because it's what you really need. Then you can start sorting out the rest of your life.

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