Is finding other guys attractive while in a relationship bad?

Long Term relationship with a girl that has issues?

  • Is there any chance that a relationship with a girl with issues from her past could work long term? have there ever been any that have been successful? So to start off I recently broke off a 2 year long engagement. A couple of the reasons were due to lack of attraction, predictability and boredom. Then one day I go to meet up with a new client for 3 weeks and there is a new girl there. She caught my attention along with perhaps all the other guys there. I kept to myself for the most part but we engaged in conversation and ended up having a lot of things in common and also shared the same passion in what we do and what we enjoy. It was refreshing to talk to someone who can relate and understand you in a way. On top of that she has a great sense of humor which I had never even realized was a great thing to have in a girl. we spent a few late nights talking for hours at her place, nothing physical. It was nice and we would talk about everything. Im obviously attracted to this girl. I dig her personality and shes perhaps one of the most stunning women ive ever encountered. And I enjoy making her smile. She then opened up some more and went into detail about her father and mother who divorced when she was young and how her father never talks to her. Of course these things manifest into an individual's upbringing and im worried that if i ever get involved with this girl it might spell hell later on. Ive been with troubled women in the past and I have no idea why it is im so attracted to those kinds of women. When I was 24 (im 29 now) I decided to give up on dating and hooking up with girls and concentrate on getting my life right and finding a good, strong, attractive, spiritual woman. I stayed single for a long time and then when i turned 28 i decided to try looking for a girl i could spend my life with. Lots of girls in my cultural community were single available and had many admirable traits, they were raised in good families, had a good education, and were level headed. But I just couldnt help but see my whole future already unfolded before me...it was so predictable and i thought what was the point of that? This girl I like now is damaged and in a way so am I. I wont pretend like im perfect either. I have my fair share of issues. My self esteem isnt that great although its improved greatly. I have anxiety and I stress too much. My intuition is telling me to leave but i cant help but really be into this girl. Theres a part of me thats asking...well what if I went down that difficult road and we made it work? There's a scene in a movie called Before Midnight where after a 10 year relationship this couple get into a really bad argument. But the guy ends up going after her after she walks out on him. Shes a tough case to handle. But because he loves her so much he makes it work and wins her back. Its that passion that I want. My parents have it. I love my mom but sometimes she gives my dad hell and can be extremely difficult. But my dad has so much patience with her and you can really tell he still is madly in love with her, he admitted to me he still has that passion for her from the first day he met her. Thats important to me to have in any relationship...and i feel as though i have it with her. Thoughts?

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    Yes, relationships with people who have "issues" can work, yes there are examples of this, even for pretty extreme examples of "issues". In my own personal example, both me and my long-term partner have serious emotional baggage, but we've both made a commitment to work through it, we're both in therapy, we communicate openly, and we have found some peace with one another. The success of our relationship is largely a story of overcoming our issues, rather than repeating old patterns of emotional withdrawal, drama, codependence, etc... Your question tells me that your own issues send you into high-drama cycles and that you're repeating patterns from your parents. This is a really common behavior called 'projection' and 'transference' in which we replay old dramas throughout our lives until we manage to resolve them, casting people in our lives in old roles (e.g. you and her play the roles of your parents). It gets in the way of real intimacy, because one relates to the old characters in the mind, rather than the real people in the present. Seeking out that drama, as you describe, is being in the grip of these issues. The passion is empty and there is no peace to be found by chasing it. There are reasons why you make the choices you do, even if you don't know them. If you crave emotional instability you will be drawn towards emotionally unstable people. Why would you crave emotional instability? Because it's what you know, because the ones who brought you into the world were likewise unstable and you therefore associate love with drama (maybe), because you have poor self esteem and don't believe yourself worthy of unconditional love (maybe)... there are lots of possibilities. A therapist can help you unravel them. Going through therapy and gaining an understanding of my issues and gaining some skillful control over them has been the best gift I could have given myself.

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Some preliminary thoughts: - Females over the age of 18 are women, not girls. I don't say this just as an abstract point about what word to use, but rather to encourage you to start thinking of potential partners as fellow adults with agency in their lives, rather than infantalizing them and framing them as children who are either "damaged" or "undamaged." - Don't base your goals, expectations, and decisions on how anything is presented in a movie. Real life, real relationships, real challenges, and real people are more complex than any movie. Over-romanticizing and oversimplifying your view of relationships does yourself (and your partners) a deep disservice. - If you have recently called off an engagement, it's entirely possible that you need much more time to deal with the end of that relationship before embarking on a new one, whether with this woman or with any other women. To your specific question: Yes, countless people with "issues" have formed healthy, happy long-term relationships. Sometimes this comes after a series of less-than-healthy/happy relationships, sometimes this comes with therapy, sometimes this comes just by virtue of growing up. The idea that the only people who have good relationships are those who had perfect childhoods is simply false. That doesn't say anything about the potential for a relationship with this particular woman, however, about whom I don't think much can be deduced given the few details you share here. Her parents divorced? Well, yeah, so what? I know plenty of people with divorced parents who are in happy relationships, just as I know plenty of people whose parents stayed together who themselves are in unhappy relationships.

scody

It sounds like you are struggling with attraction to someone who does not fit your familial and cultural idea for a partner. You need to examine and deal with that rather than making up reasons (her family history, her smoking and her tattoos) why you shouldn't be attracted to her. It really sounds like you're scraping for reasons to look down on her in order to give yourself some distance, and it would probably not be a good experience for her to date you currently. Either accept and embrace the reality that you want to date outside your family's expectations or walk away.

DarlingBri

You're going to be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn't have "issues" of one sort or another. No one gets through this life unscathed.

cecic

I don't think this girl is damaged or fucked up or "has issues," but I do think that she doesn't fit your expectations of what a woman should be like. She smokes? She has tattoos? Wow, I didn't realize that most of my friends are damaged goods. It's fine if you're not compatible with this person, but it's not fine to frame it in a way that makes her deficient or wrong in some way. Get over yourself and stop judging her. Break up with her if you insist on looking at her in such a condescending way.

ablazingsaddle

Sorry,, can you clarify what these "issues" you speak of are? Do you mean that her parents are divorced and she doesn't have a relationship with her father? Because that could describe millions upon millions of people in this world, plenty of whom have healthy, lasting relationships of all kinds. I would actually call those non-issues, myself..

wats

she has a great sense of humor which I had never even realized was a great thing to have in a girl To be honest, the vibe I'm getting here is that you don't think of women as people. It's a little creepy. It's like you're saying, "And I didn't even know they made that model of girlbot!" I think the greatest favor you could do yourself -- and more to the point, her -- is to deeply examine your attitudes toward women in general, and not attempt to date anyone you can't view as a whole person instead of a list of bugs and features in a visually appealing package.

kythuen

This girl I like now is damaged...My intuition is telling me to leave Because she has divorced parents, smokes, has tattoos, isn't conservative, and isn't committing to someone she's been on a few dates with? She is "damaged" by these things, and a troubled woman? And here you are dreaming of meeting someone you can have terrible arguments with. You, red47Apple, you have issues far worse than she does. Maybe she can tell, and that's why she seems scared of commitment with you. You want contradictory things, you might find it helpful to explore these things you want and your idea of "damage" with a therapist, they can listen to you and help you figure out what you are looking for.

yohko

The question of whether or not anyone has ever had a successful relationship with someone who had issues indicates to me that you are emotionally young and not very knowledgeable about how the world works. All people in all relationships have issues because people are human and human beings just come with baggage of some kind no matter who they are or what their upbringing is. The real question is not do these things work, but rather are you mature and self-aware enough to recognize how these things work, and it sounds to me like you've lived a rather sheltered life and need to do some living and learning before you enter into a relationship with anyone again, especially if you've just broken off an engagement. Perhaps you need to take some time to assess what baggage you bring to a relationship, and then consider what baggage that someone else might bring as well and determine what is a deal breaker and what isn't. But start by realizing how sophomoric your question is, and get to the real stuff instead next. That's the route to healthier and more fulfilling relationships.

These Birds of a Feather

She doesn't need someone judging her like this. You don't know her at all, it's unlikely your assessments are accurate. It seems a strong possibility you've got issues related to your cultural upbringing and your experiences with your mother. If you get involved, you will hurt this nice person who has done you the kindness of allowing you an opportunity to get to know her a little better. Be kind in return and don't get involved. Do self-work and maybe seek therapy. You need to grow up emotionally before you can enjoy a fulfilling relationship. Fulfilling relationships don't just happen, they take (self) work! So get to it!! Good luck.

jbenben

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