pleuritic chest pain - really bad
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Yes, I know you are not my doctor. Yes, I have been to see a doctor. To date, no diagnosis and no drugs prescribed, a lot of pain that shows no signs of going away. Background: I have a chronic cough (5+ years) plus some combination of OCD and generalized anxiety disorder (see below), which I am currently getting treatment for. I *think* what is going on is pretty simple --- I think I have the flu, and I think it has interacted with my chronic cough in a really destructive and painful way. The first night it started up (two nights ago) -- I had a mild fever and painful inspiration + some dizziness, so I went to the emergency room thinking it was a bad case of the flu. They listened to my lungs, didn't hear anything, gave me ibuprofen and sent me home. Yesterday it was worse, so I went to see my PCP, who sent me for a barrage of tests -- I got a chest X-ray and a host of blood tests for pneumonia and other bacterial infections. All the tests came back just fine. On the way home from the hospital my lungs seized up in the car and had to pull over because I couldn't breathe -- I was totally panicked and gasping for breathe, and a passerby called an ambulance which came and gave me oxygen for about twenty minutes. It passed pretty quickly and I called a friend for a pickup. I declined going to the hospital since I had *just been there* twice, and it didn't make sense to go back for more of the same (to date, it's been "take ibuprofen and drink lots of fluids") Whatever is going on with me is NOT normal. I have never had anything like this before, and it's very scary. I do not, as far as anyone can tell, have anything in my lungs - no cysts, no mucous, no bacteria, no weird growths. At the moment, though, it feels like the bottom portion of my lungs have completely collapsed -- breathing is very shallow and painful, and occasionally flares up in an excruciating way that takes over my entire front chest area - lungs, diaphragm, chest, the whole thing just feels like it's on fire, and every breathe is really really painful. I don't have any other symptoms of the flu (I had a mild fever the first night, but since then nothing) --- just constant back pain and occasional seizing up of my chest cavity, which makes it fucking difficult to do anything at all. The main problem at the moment is that I can't get anyone to give me anything for the pain since I am on Ativan which interacts poorly with painkillers of the sedative variety (see below) **Background context** Again, I think what's going on here is pretty minor -- I think I have the flu, which is interacting with this cough and sending me into the land of stabby chest pain. I have a chronic cough going on five years which is also undiagnosed (they're working on it). Chest X-ray + TB test last year came back clean. Pulmonary Function Test this year came back clean. Most recent chest X-ray came back clean. I've met with an ear nose and throat specialist who declared me totally healthy, except for the constant cough and throat clearing. I have a barium swallow scheduled for tomorrow to see if it's GERD, though I may not wind up getting over there if I feel the way I feel today. I also have "anxiety" which comes with a host of entirely different symptoms, which is what I'm taking the Ativan for. The anxiety attacks have been tapering off recently (thank god) and are of an entirely different variety --- I am seeing both a psychiatrist and a therapist and an on medication and the whole shebang. The panic attacks aren't real -- they're terrifying and overwhelming, yes, but not of the variety that will make you collapse on the sidewalk because you cannot breathe. But I have them. Consequently, I have a lot of doctors who are unwilling to prescribe me anything for pain because of the Ativan. Obviously when you can't breathe it ups your anxiety, but the thing I am more concerned about is that there is real pain in my chest that I can't get diagnosed or treated. More to the point, I am currently *in* a lot of pain, to the point where I can't drive and can't sleep, which seems to be moving swiftly out of the "ibuprofen and fluids" category of management. At the moment I am resorting to a careful combination of whiskey and Ativan to help me fall asleep at night --- otherwise I'm on the floor, coughing and hurting and awake until three in the morning trying to find a position that doesn't make my chest feel like it's on fire. Yes, I know that's bad, but every doctor I've seen has been unwilling to prescribe a painkiller in spite of being in clear and visible pain *in their office* - so you know, there's that. Like I said, I've been to the ER, been to see my PCP, had a chest X-ray and blood tests and spent last night hanging out with a team of EMT's -- so "GO TO THE HOSPITAL" is not useful advice here. Likewise, please don't yell at me for trying to solve my own problems drug-wise -- like I said, I am in a non-negligible amount of pain. Any ideas? Anyone had these symptoms and had it turn out to be something totally banal? All that sounds very dramatic, but at this point I've knocked all the scary stuff all the list -- lung cancer, tuberculosis, pneumonia, pleuritis. Now I'm just left with a pair of lungs that hurt a whole lot, a bunch of doctors who are unwilling to prescribe me anything, and the dubious task of figuring out my own drug combinations, which nobody (including me) thinks is a terrifically good idea.
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Answer:
Is there a reason you haven't had a CAT scan or another diagnostic test? I ended up getting diagnosed (after weird breathing pain, though nothing that bad) with borderline asthma, which was just flaring up in a seriously painful, chest-rending way between environmental conditions and bad interactions with certain inhalers. The CAT scan showed I'd also had pneumonia at some point, which I didn't know, and it at least ruled out the really scary stuff. Have you been to see an actual pulmonologist, or just a GP + ER docs? If you mention something like "can't sleep, breathing hurts too much, medicating with whiskey" you should be able to get an appointment really, really soon.
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Re your current symptoms, this may be coming from left field, but how current are you on your whooping cough vaccination? http://www.medicinenet.com/pertussis/page4.htm#can_adults_get_whooping_cough, and I wound up getting whooping cough as an adult as a result.
gudrun
Also, in regards to this: At the moment I am resorting to a careful combination of whiskey and Ativan to help me fall asleep at night There is no safe or careful combination of alcohol and benzos. If you do continue this regimen, please do not add narcotic pain medications to the mix. I know that you are in pain, but alcohol mixed with benzos and narcotics is often a deadly combination. Please call your PCP today and insist on being seen again as quickly as possible. Insist on a referral to a pulmonologist. Is there anyone who is able to stay with you or drive you to appointments?
pecanpies
Are they really really sure it isn't pleuritis? When I had that a few years ago, the symptoms sounded awfully familiar--shortness of breath due to the pain of inhaling, lungs on fire, trying to find a way to lie down without pain. Apparently it doesn't always show up on a normal x-ray, and they will occasionally do x-rays in a different position to try to spot the inflammation. If the Ativan is the obstacle to getting adequate pain control, could you stop taking the Ativan while you are on a stronger painkiller? I'm not going to yell about self-medicating, but breathing problems plus the combination of Ativan and alcohol seems dangerous.
mittens
I am not a doctor and no one, regardless of his or her medical background, can provide you with an internet diagnosis. That being said, there is a quick & easy diagnostic test for influenza. If you are convinced you have influenza, go to an urgent care center or freestanding medical clinic and request the test. Feel better. Lung pain and shortness of breath can be very frightening and alarming. I hope that you find answers soon.
pecanpies
Does your prescribing doctor know you're self-medicating with alcohol? If not, tell them that the only way you can cope with the pain is by adding alcohol into the mix - that might change the calculation on what other drugs are best for you to take at the moment (as someone suggests above, maybe Ativan is not the most important thing for you to be taking right now - maybe pain relief is more important).
penguin pie
Hey, I *have* had this! For me, it was a combination of acid reflux and a chronic sinus infection causing post nasal drip (and occasionally escalating to bronchitis and/or pneumonia, and then shifting into pleurisy). Years of allergy shots, steroids, antihistamines, acid blockers, TB tests, and CAT scans from my PCP and allergist, and finally, FINALLY my daughter's allergist said, "you know, that wracking cough is probably caused by a sinus infection. Have a z-pack." And I was miraculously cured of years of debilitating illness (seriously, 9 months of the year I couldn't even talk on the phone). At least ten years of being sick 9 months of the year, and I've pretty much been fine since. I keep a close watch on sinus symptoms when I get a cold these days, and if it doesn't go away in a month I ask for antibiotics-- after several years of this, and much improved self care and sinus rinsing, I don't even need antibiotics much any more.* It might be worth mentioning to your doctor, to see if it could be the cause for you, too. * I am aware of antibiotics abuse problems, and in general I am a sweat-it-out kind of person. But I really learned the hard way that sinus infections are death to my deviated septum, so now I don't wait until I've been hacking up a lung for 6 months to ask for help.
instamatic
(meant to mention, the regimen they had me on was actually non-sedating, just heavy-duty NSAIDs to reduce inflammation.)
mittens
puckish, I am curious to know: if you lie on your side, is there any lessening in the severity of the pain you're experiencing?
Poppa Bear
Yes, coming back to ask if you have seen a pulmonologist specifically, or an allergist?
gudrun
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