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Friend hit by a car; NY law doesn't seem helpful, what can she do?

  • A friend of mine was hit by a car as a pedestrian in New York state. Full question below. My friend was walking with her boyfriend across the street as told to by a crosswalk. She was 3/4 of the way to the other side (her boyfriend said about 20 seconds had passed on the 30-second crosswalk timer when she was hit) and a car ran a solid red and hit her at about 30 mph. The car was in the left lane and not turning right -- the car just blatantly went through a red light. She was struck, rolled onto the hood and fell onto the ground -- she is currently in a lot of pain and has some herniated discs but did not break anything. There were a ton of witnesses. In the police report, the driver fully admitted he ran the red light and that he had two drinks before driving. He claimed in the report the sun was blocking his view, but it was 8pm -- the sun wasn't out and there was a big fire truck and a line of cars all stopped that the driver should've seen and also should've blocked any supposed sunlight as he approached the intersection. (That firetruck was also why my friend and her boyfriend couldn't see the car coming.) According to a road side breath test, the driver blew a 0.04. My friend and her boyfriend claim the police let him sit in his car at least an hour before they tested him for alcohol. Police did not take him in for a test to check his BAC at the police station -- they let the driver go. The driver is very old and also very wealthy/well-known/poerful in this area. The driver attempted to leave the scene immediately, tossing his business card at my friend and telling her to call him, but my boyfriend screamed that no one should let him leave. The firefighters who were there in their firetruck helped my friend and her boyfriend. My friend is seeking legal counsel literally from one of the personal injury attorneys you see billboards and ads for. She knows someone who works there, but a secretary. An attorney from the law firm told her she can only sue only 1) for her medical costs, 2) if she has long-term pain or 3) if she is out of work for 90 days. They say the fact that this guy was drinking and might've been drunk cannot be used and emotional distress is not a legitimate reason to sue in NY. We checked and the police station's typical protocol is if someone blows below the legal limit, they are not brought in for a more accurate test. In my opinion, a roadside breath test is inaccurate, can be "beaten" and when the driver admitted to drinking and blew anything, he should've been taken to the station for a BAC test that is admissible in court immediately. (DWI in NY is .08, but DWAI is .06.) I feel like drinking and then running a solid red and hitting a person would be something a jury would be sympathetic toward if there is a case my friend can bring before a jury. My friend went to the hospital immediately after the incident, but the attorneys also told her to visit her own doctors to get documentation of the pain and problems she is experiencing. But it sounds like any monetary damages she can sue for are only limited to medical bills, lost wages if she missed three months of work and then if she experiences long-term chronic pain, only then can she be able to sue over quality of life. My question is: Is there really nothing more she can do? I feel like this guy is getting away with something pretty serious. My friend is in extreme pain and can't move. He hit a human being with his car when he was drinking. Is there anything else she can do to bring this guy to justice, because right now there's a good chance the judge will just give him a ticket for running a red light, reduced down to a parking ticket. Secondly, if she can only sue for chronic pain, what is the standard there? -- if she visits a doctor frequently complaining of pain and does physical therapy, is that enough? Or would she have had to miss work too? How do you prove being in pain and what is the burden of proof? What is the threshold for "serious injury" in NY. And then, is she entitled to compensation beyond merely reimbursing her for medical bills if she does have chronic pain? Would that be a large sum of money enough for this extremely wealthy man to feel penalized at all? I feel like this guy needs to pay up somehow -- what he did was fucked up. Thanks.

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    I am asking legal advice insofar as I was wondering if people would say, "That attorney is exactly right. There is nothing she can do unless her injury persists" or say "No way, my cousin's friend's girlfriend totally sued a guy in NY who hit her and got $8 million and she wasn't even hurt." If two or three people said "That attorney is exactly right, she's out of luck" would you tell her to drop it? This is just about the most clear-cut example you can imagine of why it's downright dangerous to be seeking legal advice here. You are frustrated and you want to help her. That is admirable, and we should all be so lucky to have a friend like you looking out for us, I mean that sincerely. But asking for advice to second-guess what her lawyer is telling her is absolutely doing her a disservice. There are many ways to support her and help her but none of them involve seeking legal advice on her behalf online because you don't trust the answers she is getting from her actual lawyer.

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http://vaccaropayne.com/partners.htm is the go to lawyer in NYC for pedestrians/cyclists who are victims of car crashes. Your friend might want to consult with him.

Pineapplicious

To my layman's ear, it sounds like you're mixing up a civil suit with a criminal trial. Civil suits are for damages, criminal for the punishment you're looking to inflict, from what I understand.

xingcat

This happened to me in California... someone ran a red light, hit me in the middle of the crosswalk, continued to drive with me on the hood of her car and threw me into oncoming traffic. She was an elementary school teacher who had driven the same route to work for 15 years and said she just didn't see the light or me on the hood of her car. Lucky for me about 100 other people saw exactly what happened. I found a personal injury lawyer who wasn't slimy or evil and it worked out. The first thing she dialed me into was that my auto insurance does a payout if I am struck by a car as a pedestrian! (Geico gave me $1000) to defer medical costs while the insurance companies duke it out. It helped. I saw a doctor, a chiropractor and a shrink to deal with the weird "near death" experience part. They each wrote a report, my lawyer sued the driver's insurance company for the policy limit. I signed a deposition. Her insurance company didn't blink and settled out of court. My medical expenses were paid and there was a cash payout. The whole ordeal took about 6 months, Find a good personal injury lawyer.

bobdow

No one here can give her solid legal advice. But she should shop around for lawyers and keep meticulous details of all her related medical expenses.

mibo

Wow, time to get a new lawyer. OF COURSE there's more she can do. Ask around for a referral to a good attorney. nth keep meticulous records of Medical expenses, time missed from work, and prescriptions and otc remedies. Pain and suffering is typically computed as a multiple of doctors bills. So, if your friend is told to got to physical therapy, she should. And mark the time she's off work to do it, as well as what the costs are. The motorists insurance company should be paying for all medical stuff, if she's out of pocket, or her medical insurance is paying, she still needs to keep records as her insurance company will want to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subrogation the claim. In other words her medical insurance company will go after his auto insurance company. The drunk part is a red herring. The part she needs to be concerned with is suing the drivers insurance for her medical bills and pain and suffering.

Ruthless Bunny

Yes--she can go to other lawyers and see what they say. If she hears the same thing from several lawyers she can feel more confident about the advice. Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with the personal injury lawyers who appear on billboards. They're often really, really good at what they do. Finally, lots of legal questions on AskMe are asking for legal advice--but this question is REALLY asking for legal advice. Your friend needs to keep talking to lawyers.

MoonOrb

I am not giving specific legal advice here, but in case you were wondering, what the lawyer is talking about when he mentioned the possible limits on recovery in this situation, was New York's "http://www.dfs.ny.gov/insurance/r68/r68_art51.htm" insurance law. Whether or not the law's limits apply in this situation requires a detailed examination of the factual situation and possible damages, which is best undertaken by a qualified attorney.

dcjd

I am just wondering if there are different legal avenues she can explore other than waiting and seeing if it turns out this guy fucked her up long-term. Notwithstanding your disclaimers, what you are doing is 100% asking for legal advice, which no one here is qualified to provide. The best way you can help your friend is to support her and encourage her to keep pestering her lawyer for answers. If she doesn't understand the answers or wants to be sure she isn't overlooking another avenue, she should get a second opinion.

payoto

Thanks for attorney recommendations, but my friend is in upstate NY, not NYC. And also, I am asking legal advice insofar as I was wondering if people would say, "That attorney is exactly right. There is nothing she can do unless her injury persists" or say "No way, my cousin's friend's girlfriend totally sued a guy in NY who hit her and got $8 million and she wasn't even hurt." Or maybe even, "What the police are doing sounds highly irregular/against state law and your friend may want to look at that." I just want to make sure my friend is being taken care of and doing everything she needs to do.

AppleTurnover

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