Do I need Lightroom if I'm a seasoned Photoshop user?
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Are there big advantages to buying Lightroom if I already have advanced Photoshop skills? I've been traveling more and have bought a DSLR camera as well as taking some lessons from friends about taking good street photography in exotic places. In addition, I'm an experienced web/graphic designer with loads of Photoshop experience. There aren't many things I can't do with it in terms of editing a photo. Still, with some of these photos I really want them to pop. To be dramatic and have impact. I can adjust the color mixing and Curves in Photoshop and get good effects but they just don't compare to what I see on top-notch photography websites. So is it worth paying for Lightroom? All my photographer friends seem to use Lightroom for the organization and batch editing advantages. But I also like the options they have for adjusting color temperature, grain and so forth. I also like that there are plugins like VSCO that make shots look warmer, more like printed film. I know that's cheating. But I don't have aspirations to be a "real" photographer. Just an above average travel photographer for fun. Thanks!
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Lightroom is as much a library/organizer as an editor. It's tools are a lot more limited than Photoshop, more like a traditional darkroom (you adjust exposure, color, dodge and burn, etc) but it's really just like an actual "photo shop" as opposed to the full on digital painting tool that Photoshop has become. It's biggest strength is its ability to catalog and organize thousands of digital photos. If that's not something you care about, you can get all the same effects that Lightroom would give you in terms of editing in photoshop (though some of them might be more convenient to do in Lightroom). The reason that your own photos aren't as good as what you're seeing on top-notch photography sites is probably no because you're using Photoshop and those people are using Lightroom.
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As you suggest Lightroom is for organization and batch editing - basically photo management. It does these tasks very well. It is not really useful for editing single photos beyond some very basic tasks... If you are skilled at Photoshop you will be disappointed in the editing capabilities of Lightroom.
NoDef
I also like that there are plugins like VSCO that make shots look warmer, more like printed film. I know that's cheating. Wait, what? How is that "cheating?" I won't get into the philosophy of it, but this is *exactly* what Lightroom is for- color correcting and making photos look great. They call it "develop" because these are the same choices people used to make in the darkroom, or in their choice of film. Photographers have always made choices to get the look they want and it's not "cheating" in the least. If you think of "editing" as literally changing the photo- moving things around, making people look skinnier- than yeah, Lightroom doesn't do that. But if you think of "editing" as adjusting the color and look to make the picture beautiful- Lightroom is great at that.
drjimmy11
I said cheating just because older-school photographer friends who are accustomed to developing with film think it's silly to shoot in digital and then make a bunch of edits to make it look more like film. I'm not particularly hung up on it. Probably better for separate conversation.
critzer
It is not really useful for editing single photos beyond some very basic tasks... I disagree. A professional photographer friend has a 100% Lightroom, 0% Photoshop workflow, and what he pulls off in it is amazing. I've seen his before/afters and it's striking. For my own photos, I'm a dilettante and I find it a lot easier to get a photo to "pop" in Lightroom compared to Photoshop.
zsazsa
Let me soften my comment somewhat - Lightroom can be very useful in adjusting the development of digital photos (color, exposure, white balance, crop, noise reduction, etc) - especially when similar adjustments are applied to a large number of photos. I use it in this capacity all the time. However the adjustments should be viewed as a subset of the adjustments which can be done with Photoshop. Some of the adjustments can be done much quicker with Lightroom for sure, but I don't believe Lightroom provides any "Photo Editing" capabilities with are not replicated in Photoshop. I think it's generally accepted that Photoshop provides significantly more capabilities than what you get with Lightroom. They are two different tools with two different primary functions. Both are exceptionally good at doing their primary function. Photoshop is for editing photos. Lightroom is for managing digital photo workflow from import to export.
NoDef
I'm pretty good at Photoshop and a heavy hobby photographer/semi-pro and I use both. First I'll upload my batch of photos to Lightroom where I can quickly go through the one I want to keep and remove the ones I don't. Then, Lightroom is easy and quick to do all of the usual adjustments - cropping/exposure/color balance/vignetting. Then I'll take the best few photos of the bunch over to Photoshop where I'll do things like touch ups, burn/dodge and transparency masks to get the final look right. They work together like a well-made team.
tenaciousmoon
Lightroom lets you share edits across many raw files much more easily. Have 10 photos shot in the same environment & settings? Color correct one of them and then apply the changes to the other 9. I find myself only using Photoshop to do complicated retouching.
the jam
Lightroom has a free 30 day trial, why not give it a shot and decide? I switched from Photoshop to Lightroom for my amateur-level photography a while back. Truthfully most of my photo editing was in the raw converter, and that's essentially the same code in both Lightroom and Photoshop. And Lightroom is just a lot simpler and streamlined for editing individual photos. But where Lightroom really shines is working with groups of photos. Adobe Bridge or whatever nonsense Photoshop had never worked for me. Lightroom is great at importing a bunch of photos, choosing the few good ones, tagging them, mapping them, developing them, uploading them to Flickr.. All that stuff is way way easier in Lightroom. iPhoto, Aperture, and Picasa all do similar things here at various levels of professionalism. I like Lightroom best. BTW with the new Adobe pricing model the cost equation on this stuff is changing. Lightroom is remaining a single boxed product, not a subscription fee.
Nelson
I used to use Photoshop exclusively, but now I only use it when I need to make pixel-level changes (head swaps, cloning, etc.) And as it's been said already, it's great for keeping photos organized, and for uploading to Flickr, etc.
pyjammy
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