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Can I support myself working as a barista in NYC?

  • Can I support myself working as a barista in NYC? I have a year of barista experience and I'm currently a shift supervisor at the coffee-shop where I work in Boston. Professionally my dream is to be a casting director. I had an internship last fall at a casting company here, and my understanding is to get my foot in the door in NYC I'd need to do an unpaid internship there for awhile. Since most internships run 2-3 days a week, I would need to work the other 4-5 days. I've been meaning to move to NYC for awhile and I'm considering moving there as early as the fall. If I rented a room in Brooklyn or Queens would it be possible for me to support myself working 4-5 days a week as a barista? I only have about $6000 saved up for the move.

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    A lot of these answers look like speculation rather than personal experience. I spent 2009 doing exactly this, and it wasn't pure fun, but it was/is definitely doable. I worked at Starbucks as a barista (if you can come in as a shift manager, you'd be ahead). IIRC I made $9-something an hour, and I was always looking for more hours, occasionally with success. I know I took home roughly $1000/month. My parents did not supplement that. I had one roommate in a (small, but livable) 2br in a fairly nice part of Queens near Manhattan; my rent was $575, utilities included. It took a little looking at the time, and it'd probably take a little more now, but cheap-and-decent options still exist. The apartment was a few blocks away from the Starbucks (deliberate -- I didn't want to pay for a monthly Metrocard). Food is pricier now than it was then, but I ate really well at the time, so I think it's still doable if you're okay with not-so-great food or just with less meat. You might also be eligible for food stamps -- I didn't realize I was until just before I left, but if I had had them all along, it would've made my life unbelievably easy. The rest of my expenses were pretty straightforward. I couldn't forget my budget, but I did go out, buy new clothes, have a gym membership, get a smartphone, save money, etc. I would have liked more income, sure, but I got by. Also worth noting that, at least at my store and the other stores where I subbed, the demographics were wildly different than people's guesses here. I saw no traditional college kids, nobody supported by parents, nobody working multiple jobs. Maybe in Brooklyn, but I'm skeptical. $6000 is a lot, and that cushion will be an immense help. Other than that, you just need two things. First, budgeting skills -- get a Mint account and learn to love it. Second, an exit plan. This is something you can do for awhile, waiting for your big break, but not something you want to drift into doing for years and years. If you keep that in mind, I think you can do fine. Feel free to memail me for more info, budget breakdown, etc.

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I'm not a barista, but I spend a lot of time working in the kinds of small coffee shops that are likely to pay well (albeit not in New York). The main way I see people getting jobs: They show up when things are not likely to be busy (avoiding morning, lunch, mid-afternoon rushes) with a resume in hand, talk up their experience, ask who to talk to about job opportunities. They highlight their skills at indie coffee shops elsewhere. They come back later if there is no opening. Unless you're working at a coffee shop that sends baristas to competitions and then wins those competitions, your previous employer will probably not be known to anyone in NYC. But if you can describe why and how your previous employer equipped you to do this new job well that will get you a long way. Persistence will also help. There may be no opening on the day you drop by, but if you come by a few weeks later something could have changed. Showing up regularly to reiterate your interest (but not so often as to be a nuisance) will make you more likely to get hired than if you wait for a help wanted sign to appear in the window or an ad to be posted on craigslist.

croutonsupafreak

I made about equivalent to a barista working at a food store in New York ~2 years ago, and was able to live in a fine apartment in a dull but safe neighborhood just south of Prospect Park with two roommates. I didn't really have extra money to spend on non-essentials, but it wasn't the doomsday scenario some people are recounting here. It kind of sucked but it wasn't an impossible situation-- just one I'd prefer not to play out again.

threeants

So how do baristas living in NY generally support themselves? With second jobs; with money from their parents; with money from savings; by having 4 roommates in a 1BR; by living really far away from their places of business; by still living at home; by being students who only work part time for spending money.

elizardbits

Serious question: Are you willing to share a really small 1-bedroom apartment in a sketchy neighborhood with 3 other people? Think two bunkbeds on either side of a small room, prison cell-style. That's my guess on how you'd have to be willing to live to make it on barista money in NY.

deadmessenger

You might see if you could parley your barista experience into a job as a bartender. Worse hours, but far more money.

showbiz_liz

Skilled full-time baristas at high-end coffee shops in Portland can make $40,000 a year or more in pay and tips. I don't know New York, but I'm just guessing that people there can make as much or more than Portlanders for equivalent work. And I've known a number of people who've made ends meet on that much or less, even in NYC. (Yes, part-time baristas, baristas at struggling and/or mid-/low-end coffee shops, and full-of-themselves-but-lacking-in-skills baristas usually make a lot less.)

croutonsupafreak

Decent enough ones, yes. I don't know that you want to use Craigslist to find a job, but you can use it to get a sense of what's out there, who's hiring, how many jobs there are at any given time, etc. You'll probably have better luck on foot around town looking for Help Wanted signs, or chatting with baristas in other places who might have a scoop on other shops in the neighborhood.

Sara C.

Anecdote: My step-sister works full time (or probably just under) as a barista at a Starbucks in Manhattan. She shares a 1 bedroom apartment with a roommate in LeFrak City, a giant housing development in a pretty shady neighborhood located in outer, outer Queens. I'm not super close to her, but I have the impression she has a pretty hard time making ends meet, even with occasional help from her dad.

justjess

You could probably manage it, but you wouldn't be happy. I did okay with a roommate in an apartment in Astoria on $1400 a month after taxes in 2004. (An inflation calculator tells me that's almost $1700 in today's money.) My share of the rent was $700 ($850) and from what I've heard lately rents have gone up by quite a bit. I was making $17 ($21) an hour before taxes though. I don't think baristas make that much.

elsietheeel

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