How do I connect PC/TV/Surround sound so they all play nice together?
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A year ago, I bought a http://www.lg.com/ca_en/tvs/lg-55LS5600-led-tv with HDMI capability and hooked it up to my PC to work as a monitor (with a straight HDMI cable connection). IT. IS. AWESOME. I just moved into a new place with more room and now want to connect my surround sound system (5 speakers) to this setup as well.This is http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0077V88VI/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/ I'm considering purchasing and from what I can tell, will do what I need. Extra potentially pertinent info:PC has two HDMI ports (one on the video card)Nintendo Wii connected directly to TV via RCA cablesBluRay player connected to TV via HDMI cable I want my setup to allow me to use the surround sound at all times (when watching broadcast TV, when using the TV as the PC monitor, when using the BluRay player and when using the Wii (this is the least important)). I'm assuming the TV will connect to the receiver (via HDMI) and the PC will also connect to the receiver (via HDMI) and all other hook-ups will remain as-is. Thanks in advance for any advice or tips on how to make this easy! This will be my dream setup so I'm excited to get it right.
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Answer:
Wow, lots of folks are getting this terribly wrong. The SPDIF (whether optical or coaxial) is physically incapable of transporting more than 1.5Mbps. This means that you get at best stereo PCM or old-style Dolby Digital or DTS 5.1 surround, but lossy. This sucks for Blu-Rays or anything else that has a lossless surround sound track. Unless you have the worst speakers in the world, you will be able to tell the difference. Therefore, what you want to do is this: Get a set of component cables for the Wii, which will allow you to have the highest possible quality video. Plug those wires into component inputs and the associated L+R audio input on the Onkyo. The Wii does not do digital audio output, so you're not losing anything. The Blu-Ray player should absolutely be plugged into your reciever using HDMI. Period. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. The PC should also be plugged into your receiver using HDMI. You can actually also use a DVI to HDMI cable if you didn't have an HDMI port. Some Nvidia cards can actually detect this and will output audio over your DVI to HDMI cable like some sort of black magic. If your video card is of recent enough vintage and you have the right drivers, your PC will output multichannel PCM and possibly even pass through lossless DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD tracks. The TV should then be connected using HDMI to the receiver and an optical or coaxial SPDIF cable should be connected from the TV's output to the receiver if the TV does not support audio return. (the TX-NR515 does, so the TV would be the limitation here). Broadcast and cable TV do not support anything better than Dolby Digital at 640Kbps or so, so the SPDIF connection will not degrade anything. To summarize: Connect the TV's HDMI input to your receiver's HDMI output. If you don't get sound out of the amplifier from regular TV, connect a SPDIF cable from the TV's output to an input on the receiver. Connect your Blu-Ray player and computer's HDMI ports to HDMI inputs on the receiver. Connect the Wii to the one of receiver's component and matching L+R stereo inputs. I'll third the recommendation for a Harmony remote. They're easy to program and take all the confusion out of it when you let someone else use your system while still giving you all the lossless goodness. If you have a really modern TV, you don't actually need it because all the input changing should happen automagically when you turn on whatever input device you want to use, but as with any relatively new tech, it sometimes doesn't interoperate well. When the tech doesn't just work, the Harmony is there. ;)
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Other answers
Many TVs don't pass sound on from other devices. Meaning everything (Wii, Blu-Ray player, PC) will probably have to be connected directly to the receiver.
2bucksplus
The wii actually does support surround, but maybe not passing through something else like that. It's some old school Dolby DTS type stuff though. Plugged directly in to the receiver you might be able to get some action out of it.
emptythought
I have a Sony Soundbar (bar + receiver) that I use with (a) PC (b) PS3 (c) from-the-wall tv service (apartment building; whatever's free; no cable box/service) and (d) ipod connection. After a little trial and error, this is what works: Setup part 1: PC>HDMI>REC "DVD IN" PS3>HDMI>REC "BD IN" Ipod adaptor (component)>REC "TV IN" ---> when we had the Wii hooked up via component cables, it took this spot REC "OUT TO TV" >HDMI>TV "HDMI 2" (#2 was more convenient) To watch PS3, the A/V receiver is set to "BD" and the TV is set to "HDMI 2"; for PC and iPod, the receiver setting changes but the TV stays on HDMI 2 Setup part 2: WALL (coax)>TV "TV" TV Optical out>REC "SAT IN" To watch TV, the TV is set to "TV" (whaa??) and the A/V receiver is set to "SAT" I strongly recommend you get a good remote like the http://www.logitech.com/en-us/universal-remotes (and up) - you program it so that you only have to press "Watch TV" and it turns everything on and puts it on the right setting. You also set it so it knows that you want channel up/down to affect the TV but sound up/down to affect the A/V receiver. So much easier than a million remotes.
melissasaurus
This sounds like a simple answer: but use the optical out from the TV to the receiver. Am I missing something else?
General Malaise
2bucksplus has it. Decent receivers will upconvert the analog signals from the wii to hdmi(get a component cable on amazon! Do 480p, theyre like $10 and it makes a HUGE difference). You connect everything to the receiver, then connect the hdmi out on it to the TV. Onkyo is the brand I'd recommend(along with HK) so that one looks fine to be. Google around to verify it converts analog signals to hdmi, and that it has component(not just yellow/red/white composite) inputs. That amazon page is fairly useless for those kind of specs :/
emptythought
TVs don't normally have a standard HDMI out over a separate cable, but might support Audio Return Channel, back out over the same cable as the HDMI input (if the receiver also supports that, I haven't looked at the manuals). I've found the best way to hook up the Wii in a similar system, is component cable into the TV's Y,Pb,Pr, Audio, then optical out from the TV back to the receiver. The optical cable will carry up to 5-channel sound, but the Wii only uses stereo anyway.
wilko
I think General Malaise has it. Just run an optical cable from the "Optical/Digital Out" on your TV to the receiver. Then plug everything into your TV like you normally would. Once you've got the proper input setting on the Receiver, all audio should magically (not really) run through that optical cable to the receiver. You may have a setting on your LG TV to say you're using external speakers, so turn that on too. melissasaurus's recommendations for a Logitech Harmony remote is sound as well.
backwards guitar
I should add that I have a pre-HDMI Onkyo receiver and a Panasonic Plasma TV, and follow my advice above, and it works perfectly.
backwards guitar
Be warned. If you plugin everything to the TV then optical to the receiver, everything might be downsampled to Dolby prolific (fancier stereo) instead of true surround. For best results plugin everything direct to the receiver.
TheAdamist
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