Interview advice
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I had a phone interview last week that I thought I bombed. But, apparently I did good enough to land an in-person interview on Thursday. I'd like some advice on where in between "Fake it till you make it" and "lay your cards on the table" I should be. Details inside. The job is listed as an entry level position creating, managing, and delivering training. However, it pays (i am guessing here based on the interview) $70,000, requires 5 years of experience, and is all about leadership training. I got a master's degree from the same school as many of the people working at this company last year, which gives me a grand total of 3 years fudged, or 1.5 years steady experience. I think the experience I had was phenomenal and very applicable (I worked in a leadership training department) but I didn't learn enough from it to do anything on my own. I guess what I'm saying is that, while I'm very capable and skilled and knowledgeable of theory, I still have a lot to learn in terms of hands-on skills. I also am not an expert with regards to leadership or sales, which is the focus of this department. In the phone interview, they asked a lot of questions that seemed pretty specific, like they had a correct answer in mind, but I could only speak to theory and generalities. For instance, a question along the lines of "What is your process for creating learning objectives?" to which my answer was along the lines of "I'd probably ask someone for help." During this section, I got a strong feeling from the interviewers that they were just going through the motions because they didn't think I had the skills they were looking for. I can't put my finger on what it was, but i suppose they answered my questions somewhat abruptly, didn't ask may follow-up questions, and didn't ask me to clarify my answers much. (It is possible that I was just imagining this based on my own self-assessment.) Finally, one of the things I focused on pretty strongly during the phone interview (and was very nervous about afterwards) was that I understood the realities of business and how what a trainer thinks is the right answer isn't always what the other business people want from them, and that it's the training department's job to work for the company, not to try to dictate "the right way" to do things. I honestly have no idea if this helped or hurt my standings. I don't have much experience interviewing for things that are a challenge for me. My past jobs have usually been completely in line with my qualifications, and I left the interviews feeling confident. This situation is different and I am panicking, and would greatly appreciate your advice. I have always been told "fake it till you make it" because I am much more judgmental of myself than anyone else ever could be; it's my job to show the best of myself, and it's the company's job to decide if my best is good enough. On the other hand, I feel that they must realize how inexperienced I am, and that if I act like I have experience when I really don't, they will think I'm fake and bragging and selling myself as better than I am. I want to open the interview by saying "Listen, based on the questions you asked, I think it's pretty clear to everyone that I won't be coming into the position with the ability to immediately start churning out leadership training. By asking me here to interview, I think it shows that you are not looking for that type of candidate. So, let's talk about what about me you find attractive, and we can come to a joint decision about whether I am right for this role." But I'm super scared that i will say that and they will say "well actually, you misread us completely. We did think you had the skills, but based on what you just said, now we're not sure." I know that no one can give me the perfect answer because none of you (I hope!) are familiar with the job/department in question. But I hope that some of you with more experience than myself can help me think through this more clearly, and help me find a distinct brand to present during the interview. Thanks in advanced!
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Answer:
I liked the book, http://books.google.com/books/about/60_Seconds_and_You_re_Hired.html?id=NeceEouOqkcC, frequently recommended here. Their recommendation is to come up with a bullet list of 5 (I think) key things about you that you want to sell during the interview. Specific skills, abilities, personality traits, or experiences that will be an asset to the organization. Then you practice with friends finding ways to answer any interview question with these bullet points. The idea is to decide what you want them to know and get that information across concisely and effectively. There are also hundreds of sample answers to interview questions in the back.
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Other answers
So, I recently got a job for a fairly large retail company, doing contract work, where I'd be working directly with a very good friend who recommended me. Because of that recommendation, I just sent in a resume for what everyone told me was a straightforward contract job very much in line with my career to date, and then was asked to come in to interview. The interview went great, with a lot of banter and was composed solely of either general questions about my methodology, awareness of their service, etc., or specific questions about experiences mentioned on my resume. I got hired a couple days later, and one of my paperwork bits was filling out the online job application for the record. Which is the first time I saw the posted job listing. Which has so many "required" skills and experiences that I don't come anywhere near and no one who read my resume could think that I did. I would never have applied for this job on my own, and I would have laughed at anyone who suggested it. But they didn't ask me about any of that stuff, and I have the job. I interviewed for another one, also entirely demanding skills I don't have, and at one point the interviewer said to me, "Look, if you already knew how to do all this stuff, you wouldn't be right for this role." They're not bringing you in for a second interview because they somehow didn't notice your skillset or lack of experience. They did notice your skillset and experience, and they are interested in acquiring it. You say it's an entry-level position; maybe they want to take your skills and train you to use them within their model of practices. Who knows. But don't presume that their interest in you must be some kind of mistake. They like what they've heard so far, and they want to hear more. You're very unlikely to be pulling the wool over their eyes, unless you've actively lied all the way through. So go, be personable and professional, see if you like talking to them too, and answer their questions to the best of your ability, because your ability got you in the door in the first place. If it's not a good fit or you're too underqualified, fine, whatever. But maybe it is, maybe you're not. Don't start by telling them you don't want to be considered a person with strength and potential. Good luck.
Errant
The general rule is that you let them decide that you're not qualified. Don't decide that for them.
shakespeherian
Never try to talk someone out of a good opinion they might have of you. What's "pretty clear to everyone" from your point of view might not be shared by anyone else in a room.
Jairus
Unless you have a few other job offers that are equally appealing and you really are interviewing them more than they are interviewing you, I think you should continue to play up your strengths and not worry about whether you are qualified for one second. That's their job. Just look at the fact that you thought the phone interviewers were unimpressed and "just going through the motions" when in reality they were impressed and moved you to the next level. You are irrationally jumping to negative conclusions.
callmejay
It is completely nuts to say that. Why would you tell them what they're looking for? Don't lie when you answer, of course, but let it stay up to them what they think about that. And you can ask questions like "what would make a good candidate for this position" or other questions along those lines. Just present yourself, and see what happens.
brainmouse
A job interview really boils down to TWO things: #1: CAN YOU DO THE JOB? No, really. Can you? That's what they want to know. #2: DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU? Let's be honest, how you'll fit in usually matters a lot. Be better than just competent. Be strong but definitely likable.
2oh1
Thanks to everyone who gave me good advice. I stayed strong and showed my best face, and I think they liked it. We'll see in a few weeks weather I was the best they saw.
rebent
Your question is basically wrong. If they're a smart company, they're not hiring on credentials, and only somewhat on experience. Instead, they're hiring on behavior and communication. When you said "I'd ask for help," they said, "Oh good, here's someone smart enough to know when s/he's in over his head, and knows how to work collaboratively." Your answer also about institutional values is good. They're trying to hire a good, smart, creative person, who works well with others. And HONEST. That's what we all want in hiring. Stop undermining yourself, and PLEASE don't go to the interview and undermine yourself. The question I think you want to ask them is bizarre and possibly off-putting. Why don't you go to the interview and ask them about their organizational values, and what's important to them, and continue being forthcoming and honest and vivid in your languages and description. They want someone who can communicate, who can crisply make themselves understood. Sounds like you've got the goods, so go forth and sparkle.
RJ Reynolds
Suppose that somehow they have misunderstood how qualified you are. And suppose further that you get the job, based on that misunderstanding. This describes my entire career so far. I would suggest that if you're quick to learn, a good co-worker, and you can do some of what they hired you to do very well, you can learn to fill the new position. They are probably interested in you with that expectation - that your strengths are what they can't find in another candidate, and that your weaknesses will disappear once you're up to speed. Focus on what you're good at, and feel your way through the rest.
Slap*Happy
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