Is this part of my quarter-life crisis?
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Is this part of my quarter-life crisis? (a blizzard inside) Is this part of my quarter-life crisis? My wife and I are coming up on our 6-year wedding anniversary. We've been a couple for 12 years after meeting in college (I'm 32, she's 31). I love her, and our marriage has been enjoyable, with minimal conflict and great shared experiences. But for the last two years, things have been...different...and not in a good way. I'm not sure if my negative emotions are a result of me, of her, of other circumstances, of our place in life, or something I don't know about. I'm writing this to get some thoughts and wisdom from the hivemind so I can determine how to quell the negativity. Perhaps others have had similar circumstances. Here's what I don't like that I'm feeling: 1. I don't miss her when I'm not with her. For example, last weekend, two friends and I went to an amusement park for the day and stayed the night. I was happy she wasn't with me, because I enjoyed the time with them. I would have enjoyed it less had she been present. 2. I'm bored when I'm with her, often no matter where we are. Whether we're at a baseball game, we're watching a movie at home, we're at a family function...she doesn't stir my emotions or, perhaps more unfortunate, make me laugh. 3. I'm embarassed (for both her and me) by the way she tells stories. Recently, at a gathering of people we only loosely knew, she took over the room and spent about three minutes telling a story that could have been told better in about thirty seconds. She adds lots of unnecessary details and fails to get to the point. I used to find this quirk of hers cute and admirable, but now it's like nails on a chalkboard. 4. I often think about what my life would be like with another person. Mind you, not a specific person; there's no other fish, so to speak, that I'm interested in chasing. But if I see an attractive woman in a shop or a restaurant or the aforementioned amusement park, I begin thinking about what she might be able to provide that my wife can't or doesn't. For example, I've recently begun having this fantasy that I could call my wife on a Friday afternoon, say, "Let's go to Vegas for the weekend!" and she'd be delighted and say "Awesome, I can't wait!". This would never happen, admitteldy for real-world reasons (detailed below), but mostly because she doesn't have that spontaneous mentality that I am longing for or hoped would develop. 5. I resent her because our sex life is awful. 6. I resent her for not taking control of her health. She's overweight, and doesn't like how she looks, and she's extremely insecure about her body. Yet she doesn't exercise, and eats poorly. Frankly, I'm not going to be the husband who says "Oh, it's okay, I love how you look" because I don't. I want her to feel good about herself when she looks in the mirror. 7. I resent her for making me feel guilty about the way I live my life. For example, about a month ago, me and my two best friends had Guys Day. We played basketball, played video games, and went out for dinner and drinks and football-watching. And I felt guilty about it because she stayed home. She does not have close friends (her two best friends live at least a day's drive away) like I have close friends. 8. I resent her for being unable to communicate in any meaningful way about all of the above. Because she is rather insecure (to the point where she needs to hear from me at least once a week that I'm not going to divorce her), any discussion about our relationship and each other inevitably ends in tears. Then I feel bad for making her cry, she resents me for making her cry, and nothing changes. Despite how I make it sound, my wife is a caring, loving person. She has a very hard full-time job that she's good at, and she is unselfish to the point where it's potentially harmful (ie putting others before herself). To that end, perhaps I'm blind to my own issues, as I alluded to above, or perhaps other circumstances are causing my negativity. It's worth highlighting that: 1. The last 3 years have been something of a settling period for us. We bought a house, physically tying us to a location after 7 years of apartment living in 4 different states. I've personally never been comfortable with physically settling...which brings us to #2... 2. I've settled, uncomfortably, into a profession and series of jobs that I have little interest in and am doing only because of inertia (and to pay bills). The years of apartment-living that I mention above were dynamic...I had exciting workplaces and was able to try out business ideas...I felt more alive and interesting and was meeting more people. I'm not one of those people who wants to be defined by my occupation/work, but I certainly prefer interesting work. 3. THE BIG ONE. We had a baby 7 months ago. I adore him, and I look forward to the days when we can pick pumpkins in the pumpkin patch, play catch, eat ice cream together, etc. Motherhood has clearly taken a toll on my wife - as I know it does all women - as breastfeeding and getting up at night kills sex drive, and the mere presence of a such a young child kills spontaniety. I get that, but I'm concerned it won't get better, and this little guy I love so much will, indirectly, continue to create the negative emotions I state above. Friends tell me the first two weeks are the hardest; her doctor told her the first year is the hardest. Are the teenage years the hardest? I have no idea, but I don't think life as a parent should be lived thinking, "Okay, it'll get better when XYZ." These three factors, combined, I think, are making me resent my wife, and to some extent, life in general, even though I recognize I have a lot of great things in it. My hope, although I know the green isn't supposed to be a Dear Abby, is that you can point me toward some further reading or just spare some thoughts to help me get over this hump (leaving out the standard MeFi suggestion of therapy, as I certainly realize that's an option). My fear is that a lot of my options to feel happier are exhausted; the classic idea of Date Night, for example, doesn't much appeal to me at the moment, as I am already picturing an un-fun conversation at the dinner table. There's the useful "do the housework for her" suggestion, but I'll note that I already handle everything (money, chores, social calendar) that doesn't involve her job or the baby and have been handling those things for our entire marriage. We have tried doing rather unconventional activities together; for example, we tried to read a book of the bible together each week and then discuss it (we're not religious; we wanted to see what the fuss was about), but that didn't go anywhere after the first month (perhaps we just need a new book). We once tried to watch all three Lord of the Rings movies back-to-back-to-back on a rainy Sunday; we both fell asleep. I tried to get her to go through our pictures together with the goal of making birthday postcards for our friends; while I found it to be a pleasant walk down memory lane, she found it to be more like work. So, what do we do? Am I the problem? Is she the problem? Is there a problem? Am I being an idiot? For those of you so inclined to look at my previous questions, am I dancing around issues? Thank you for reading this far; while I apologize there's no question in the normal sense, I do appreciate any help you can give in getting me to love my wife again.
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Answer:
I'm 32, but single, and my life has challenges too. From the perspective of the other side, I think you should know that some, though not all, of what you have is pretty attractive to single people in their early (and late and post) 30s. More than that, though, I'm writing to say thank-you to all of the folks who responded without being mean or hurtful or insulting to the OP. For whatever faults there are in OP's question and conduct, he's human, he's trying to figure this out, and he (probably) wants to try to make things better. That's a more positive approach than I see in a lot of people from a daily basis.
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Other answers
You are being an idiot, but at least you've come here and we can set you straight. You are on edge because you're sleep deprived. Your wife is boring and not thinking clearly because she's sleep deprived. Your wife is overweight because she just had a baby. Your wife can't get her shit together because she's got hormones screwing up her brain. You both desperately need some couples counseling and some separate counseling. Marriage may not always be good. You have to be in it for the long haul. Do what you must to exhaust every avenue to make this relationship right. If, after doing everything you can think of to make this good, THEN and only then, can you think about bailing.
Ruthless Bunny
There's nothing we can say about how terrible this situation is for your wife that isn't completely spotlighted by the fact that you put the baby last in this question. And in your earlier question about her weight, you didn't mention the baby at all.
Countess Elena
I'm really catching a vibe here that fatherhood hasn't really sunk in for you yet. You mention going away OVERNIGHT after spending the day at the amusement park with friends and then you mention your 'guys night out,' and that you resent HER for 'making you feel guilty?' You feel bad because she's gained weight and your sex life is in the gutter , but you mention as #3 (!!) the little fact that you have a 7 month old baby. And that she's breastfeeding. Your resentfulness at your wife is childish. Your demand for spontaneity and fun - days at the amusement park and nights watching football is childish. And by childish, I mean selfish. I wish I could be more supportive - but your entire post has come off as unbelievably immature and selfish. I feel sorry for your wife.
The Light Fantastic
Wow. I cry when I feel intense emotions. These conversations sound intense. If someone I loved told me they wouldn't talk to me about intense subjects if I cried, I would leave them so fast their head would spin. Use that information as you will... I can talk through tears - can she? Do you listen?
pammeke
First, I agree with Ruthless Bunny. Second, you're 32. You're a tiny bit early, but it's a mid-life crisis, not quarter-life. Sorry to be the one to break the news.
The World Famous
The reason you feel guilty is because you are guilty. You're leaving your wife with a very young baby to go play charming man about town, then resentful when she won't join you in shenanigans when, presumably, she can't because she's got a goddamn baby to deal with. Your sex life is awful? What are you doing to be attractive? And I don't just mean physically. Are you helping with the baby? Cleaning around the house? Giving her moments by herself? Taking the kid so she can go overnight with those friends of hers? Letting her get some sleep between work and baby? She cries? Maybe she cries because she's tired and her husband is a flailing manchild who is obviously losing interest in her if it was ever there in the first place and blames her for it? Maybe she's exhausted and emotional from post-pregnancy hormones and not up to be a hyperlogical robot? Just a thought. You're bored? Did this ever come up before the decision to move to the suburb and have a kid? Did you think about either of those things? If she's having weight problems, what are you doing to help her out? She can't exactly strap a baby on and head down to the gym, assuming she even feels like the gym after 9 months of pregnancy and 7 months of baby. Does she have time to go to the gym or walk around? Does she have enough energy considering all she's doing?
Ghostride The Whip
Do you really think your wife isn't struggling with the same identity changes that you are? Yeah, you went from having an exciting life full of adventure to living in the suburbs. But what about her? She's gone from being the woman you fell in love with to being an exhausted, isolated, overweight new mother. She worries about losing you on a weekly basis? That is so stressful and scary; do you really feel ok with the idea of the woman you love feeling so afraid? I wager she's feeling just as trapped and scared as you are. Trapped in the suburbs, trapped into this life track that the two of you have chosen, trapped in a body she's losing hope of reshaping into one that she likes. I doubt she feels comfortable voicing those feelings, because as you say--she tends to put others before herself. She is too busy worrying about everything else in her life to take care of herself. Aging and settling down are HARD. You married her so you could go through life together. This is what marriage is for; facing down these challenges together. I mean, you want an adventure? You want to do something truly difficult, something that will make you a better person? This is it. The challenge you want is right in front of you. Be her partner and her teammate, even though it's not easy. Right now, you're so focused on what you've lost that you've lost sight of the fact that she's human and needs your help and compassion. All things pass. Your life won't be this hard and confusing forever. Do you want to remember this time as a point in your life when you stepped up and uncomplainingly did your share, or do you want to remember it as a time where you failed to support your wife when she needed you? I think you should focus less on trying to bring back your old life, because that's gone for the time being. Instead, focus on being there for her, both emotionally and practically. Be present in the life you have now. Tell her, often, that you're always going to be there for her. Tell her that you love her. Listen to her when she's sad, make her go to bed when she's tired. Make sure she's eating. Make sure she has time for herself, even if that just means 15 minutes for her to read a magazine. The other things--your sex life, your ability to be spontaneous together, and her willingness to take care of herself---will come back once she realizes that you are there for her. Right now she's scared to take care of herself and your marriage because she thinks she's doing it all by herself. Remind her that she's got you and that it doesn't have to be so hard because you're doing this together.
rhythm and booze
What you need to do is use negative conditioning at this point to emphasize that this behavior is unacceptable. This is not a good approach, it is too mean and hurtful. Also the example is not factually correct, this is not an example of negative conditioning.
kettleoffish
Holy cow. Breastfeeding socially isolated mother of a seven month old and you're resentful that she's not interesting or spontaneous enough? Of course you're happier during a guys' weekends watching football. You get to have fun and she doesn't. First of all, you should look into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_depression. Can your wife pump so you can take over one of the nighttime feedings and she can get more sleep? Can you take the baby on some weekends so she can go visit her friends? Because jesus christ, do I feel for her. I'd be really, really sad too. Second of all, since you asked for resources, you need to read John Gottman. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0752837265/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/. But really, and I say this with a lot of empathy for your situation . . . you're not being much of a mensch here. I think some empathy for your wife would go a long, long way.
PhoBWanKenobi
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