When do I tell my boss I'm applying for another job?
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When should I tell my supervisor about a job within our organization that I intend to apply for? I work at a large public university in an administrative capacity. I've been here for almost 6 years and was reclassified (promoted) last year. My supervisor (George) has been very supportive of my career and furthering my professional development; we get along well. Additionally, things are not so great within our department due to a lot of organizational change. My current job has never been a great fit but I think I've done well and I seem to be respected within my group. A job has recently been posted that I'm interested in. It's a better match for my skill set and my interests. It is within a different unit at the university albeit one that we (George and I) work with frequently. The person who would be my supervisor (Becky) is well-known by everyone in my department and my department and hers frequently collaborate. The job is probably slightly senior to the one I currently have though definitely not above the level of George. He's a director within my department; I'd be an assistant director within the new department. When do I tell George that I'm applying for the assistant director position? Before I even submit the application? That sort of seems like jumping the gun a little and it's not a sure thing that I'd even be interviewed for the job so I'd prefer not to needlessly stir things up. On the other hand, George may be helpful in positioning myself for the job and since everybody knows each other, I'm sure word would eventually get out. I've briefly mentioned to Becky that I'm interested in the job to see what her response would be. She was neither encouraging nor discouraging and I couldn't really get a read from her as to her thoughts.
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Answer:
I would frame it as advice. Go to George and say something like: "I really enjoy working here and I appreciate the opportunities for advancement. As you know, I'm interested in gizmos, and there is an opening for asst director in that department. Do you think it would be a good idea for me to apply?" This gives him the opportunity to provide relevant context you may not know (Becky has a favorite internal candidate, Becky thinks you aren't qualified), and frames it as a discussion/mentoring conversation - not you asking for permission or letting him know you're doing it. Secondary value is that he probably will give you useful advice about positioning yourself and/or offer to put in a good word with Becky.
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Make it a positive. George, you know I love the Widget Dept. However, there's a posting for asst. dir. in gizmos, and I'm planing to apply. Of course, I wanted to talk to you about it 1st. I'd still be able to work with you and Terry and Pat, etc. Ask George for advice and a reference.
theora55
My company's HR policy states that a staffer needs to inform their supervisor when they are selected for an interview with a different department, which I think seems like a good time.
JannaK
Yes, get his support before even submitting an application.
lizbunny
You may need to refer to HR policy for this one. Usually I think it's prior to an interview, not an application... but the fact that Becky was very neutral about your potential application for the position is interesting. Not necessarily discouraging, but if she and George are close you might want to run it by him sooner rather than later.
sm1tten
Where I work it's prior to the application. Because your Supervisor/Manager needs to sign-off on it before the other department can seriously consider you.
zombieApoc
I think the HR policy, if one exists, is mostly irrelevant, except in that it sets a point in the process that you can't notify George any later than. But if there is a policy that says that you have to notify him prior to an interview, I certainly wouldn't wait that long just because the policy says you can - this is mainly a question of politics, not policy. You really want George to hear about this from you, and not from Becky or through the grapevine. This is so he doesn't feel like you're going behind your back. Also, this way, when Becky does contact him, formally or informally, to get a reference, he's not hearing about it for the first time, which is certainly not going to be a good situation for you. Given how close George and Becky are, that means you should tell him now. The exception would be if you think that George would make your life more difficult in your existing job just because you tell him you're considering an internal transfer, but based on your description it doesn't sound like you have that kind of a relationship at all.
strangely stunted trees
I can't find anything on the HR website. There are about a million policies and procedures listed and I can't easily figure out if there's a policy about notifying a supervisor.
Mrs Roy G Biv
I can't find anything on the HR website. There are about a million policies and procedures listed and I can't easily figure out if there's a policy about notifying a supervisor. If it's not easily findable on the website, then you can and should just track down a phone number for the HR department and place a call.
Tomorrowful
I have already contacted HR to confirm the closing date for applications and the salary range mentioned that I was interested. I could ask the guy that as well but I tend to agree that it's not really the policy that I'm interested in - more the politics since everything is rules by politics here!
Mrs Roy G Biv
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