Should I pay $300 more for a plane ticket to Europe to keep the peace with friends?
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Traveling to Europe with friends. They want to combine plane fares and split the ticket costs evenly. Problem: this means I'll be paying $300 more than what my round-trip ticket would cost if I bought it separately. Should I agree to it? THE SITUATION: My best friend (BFF), whom I've known since childhood, is getting married in Europe. She's invited me to be a part of the entourage, and I have been planning on the trip with her sister (S), her sister's husband (SH), and her other best friend (B). It's my first trip to Europe, and I'm excited! S and I aren't exactly close, but we get along and have gone on trips together via BFF. SH, I know mainly as S's partner, but he's cool. B is a good friend, whom I've spent time with even without BFF and we've even gone on a couple of trips on our own. In the course of planning our itineraries, money-saving tips and tricks came up, with the general idea that this was all going to be on a shoestring, considering the exchange rates of our currency to the Euro. (FWIW, we are all coming from SouthEast Asia.) I researched a lot, using ITA Software, Skyscanner, and Kayak (thanks, AskMe!) to find the cheapest fares, and planned my itinerary around my annual leave credits and the cheapest departure date near the end of those credits, knowing that the plane fare is probably going to be the biggest single expense of the trip. We discussed our plans together and will pretty much be travelling together. We will all be taking the same flight going into Europe, but departing separately. B and SH will be going home earliest, then me after several days. S will be leaving last, a couple of weeks later. We all decided to apply for Schengen visas together as well, but ran into the hurdle of booking flights without having to pay for them until our visas are approved. (This cannot be done online, as you have to pay for the tickets right away.) Ultimately, we used a travel agent at the last minute: one that S's parents trusted and used often. She booked our flights and hotels and we were able to use these documents for our Schengen visa application. (Side note: I am not 100% happy with her, as she missed a couple of details in the application form, and I had to do a couple of last-minute bookings with my own credit card since she missed a couple of dates, causing gaps AND forgot to tell us she couldn't find a hotel for an off-the-beaten-path destination. But she did help us out at less than a week's notice from our visa appointment, cheerily.) THE DILEMMA: Now, my best friend has asked about our itinerary details in order to arrange for picking us up at the airport, etc. and S asked us yesterday (through an online group we formed to discuss our travel plans) if we were going to use the tickets that the travel agent booked for us. I had checked the flight details against the airline website, and the price was comparable to my previous research for the cheapest online fares, so I replied that I looked up the fare and it was $____ online, and that it would do. Today, after apparently having already discussed it with the travel agent, SH asked our online group if we were willing to split the costs of the plane fare and each pay the same amount. The amount is $300 higher than what I would pay for a solo round-trip ticket. I replied, asking if it would be fine with them if I buy my ticket for the same flight separately, online, and that $300 is a big deal to me. SH then explained the motivations behind the even split: his and B's base plane fare alone would be $200 more than the average, not including the surcharges. (With surcharges, it could come up to $500-600 more than my solo round-trip ticket.) He said that if we split, it would help offset each other's ticket prices and give us all a better chance of enjoying the trip. Which is a fair point to make. (Potential internal issue: all along, I thought S and SH could afford the trip more than I, as they have their own condo, car, and higher paying jobs. Oh and their visas and a week's worth of accommodation are being sponsored by the fiance's family. B and I will be paying our own way throughout the trip.) If I don't agree split the costs, the trip is going to cost the most to B, who like me will be paying for hotels/hostels if we can't find couches to surf, and her and SH's plane fare are the highest among our group. My problem is that I feel cornered. If I don't go along with splitting evenly, it looks pretty selfish. If I do go along with it, I'm out $300 which could have gone to the occasional splurge on a nice meal or better accommodations. I'm torn between going along to keep the peace, and defending my right to spend my money as I please. The thing is, I come from a community-minded culture where the former is valued more than the latter. But I'm also very DIY and thrifty by nature, and would CouchSurf the whole trip if I could. To be fair to them though, I think they're treading carefully around the travel agent as well, who is virtually a family friend to S and BFF's well-traveled folks. So. Should I or shouldn't I? Am I just being a cheapskate asshole, valuing savings over relationships? Is it a question of caring enough about B or BFF, and what it's worth? Are there any alternatives we haven't considered? Please hope me, MetaFilter! It's 2:30am where I am and I'm torn, can't sleep, can't decide, and can't step back far away enough to examine the situation objectively. Thank you in advance!
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Answer:
i believe that oft repeated phrase on askme applies. "That will not be possible." Because it's not. You don't have an extra $300. If you did, it wouldn't be an issue for you, it seems.
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Other answers
I dunno, I'm also from Southeast Asia, and if the way my own family handles communication is any indication, my response would be far more rude and direct than "that will not be possible." My answers would probably be more along the lines of: "Do you think I'm rich or what?" "Are you crazy? $300 is a lot, man." "BFF is paying so much for you already! Why do you need my $300?"
sawdustbear
So what happens if you DON'T use the tickets that the travel agent booked for you? Just to play devil's advocate, back when you said it was okay to use a travel agent so your visa situation would go smoothly, you did walk into this a bit.... UNLESS you protested to all and said you wouldn't go through with the travel agent booking in the end.
k8t
Wait. Have you also paid the travel agent a fee for dealing with the visas? Or was that included in the ticket prices? If you paid a fee to the agent for processing the visas, don't pay anymore. If the agent did the visas because she thought you'd buy tickets from her, she's the one you owe some loyalty/money to.
bilabial
WTF? NO! it would offset each other's ticket prices It doesn't offset yours, but increases it.
windykites
If I had the money I would do it just because money isn't that important to me. I would also provide a lecture that if they can't afford to go they should ask for a loan not try and pretend "everyone" will enjoy the trip more. I don't mind helping people but I won't be a tool. Just have three agree to pay you back. If they take offense that is their issue not yours. I would loan them the money even if it stretched me, but only as a loan.
pdxpogo
I can't believe anyone would ask a friend to do this. I've traveled with friends before and we try to find deals online together, but ultimately each of us buys our own ticket. If it were a significant other or a relative it could be different, but not just for a group of friends.
fromageball
This only makes sense if the total cost through the travel agent is less than the total cost through the website. If that's true, then that means that you could pay the same amount as your ticket would have been on the website, S, SH, and B can split the remainder (including the $300 difference), and it will still be cheaper for them than if they'd used the website. If that's not true, then the travel agent isn't doing anybody any favors.
aimedwander
Of course, you could also do the "Great, though we have to also split the cost of accommodations and visas for me and B so we can enjoy the trip!" That would probably shut them up, but it's a very aggressive move that you only want to use if you are backed into a corner. (You do something like: Plane ticket S - X Plane ticket SH - X Plane ticket Anon - X Plane ticket B - X Visa A - X Visa B - X Accommodations A - x Accommodations B - x Total: X each person owes X/4. Don't skimp on hotel costs!)
jeather
I'll try an opposing view just for fun. If you were the one saving $300 would you take this plan? What I mean is, is this the way people you hang out with do things? If it is, and you *can* afford it then I guess you could do it. Given the way you've explained it, I'm completely baffled that SH even mentioned this plan. So I'm wondering if I'm missing something cultural. Another way of putting it. Will you feel worse about being "taken for $300 dollars" or "letting $300 ruin your trip" Do you want to offer to buy your own ticket, but give $100 to the cause? To be clear, none of these are things that you *should* do, or even "need to do be be a good friend" they're things you could do, if you felt like it, and should be considered as generous (or at least considerate) acts by the recipients.
dadici
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