Masters in maths? Difficulty level: Have bachelors in graphic design
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Dear Mefites, a long time ago I got a degree in graphic design but never worked in the industry. Along the way I somehow (don't remember how or why or when) became interested in math and I finished a http://www.londoninternational.ac.uk/courses/diploma-graduates/lse/diploma-graduates-mathematics as a distance learning course in my free time. I am considering applying for masters programmes in maths or related subjects but ... can I? Should I? To give a little more background, I'm interested in what I perceive as stuff related to applied maths: meteorology, language processing, cryptography, etcetera. But I'm also wondering how I can relate these sorts of interests to jobs or careers ... I've seen http://www.math.smith.edu/center/ and http://www.bu.edu/eng/academics/special-programs/leap/ but I'm not a US citizen and I can't afford to attend those. Also, I have no access to education I'm interested in where I live, hence I'm considering becoming an international student in the EU. I have some savings but by no means can I afford to get a second bachelors degree ... I've also tried looking for work in related fields so I could get a feel for them but right now I'm just stuck at an awful data entryish job that I hate so much. And also sometimes I feel like I'm so stupid that I just shouldn't be attempting this at all ... argh! I'd appreciate any advice! Thank you!
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To give a little more background, I'm interested in what I perceive as stuff related to applied maths: meteorology, language processing, cryptography, etcetera. But I'm also wondering how I can relate these sorts of interests to jobs or careers ... I have a hard time imagining that anyone would see a plus in an 'unusual background' like mine and be seriously serious ... it's got no relation to maths whatsoever (Unless you're Vi Hart)! You mentioned meteorology, have you looked at physics? Physics folk are pretty easygoing and welcoming of eclectic backgrounds. And it can be fun, if you're passionate about it. I'd suggest you take an intro quantum course at a university (and ace it) to have something on your c.v. that shows you can hack the material, and to get a taste for the field and the people. I'm suggesting quantum because other mid-level courses like Electromagnetism or advanced Mechanics need a bit more of the http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471804584/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/ leading up into them. In terms of jobs: http://www.iop.org/careers/workinglife/articles/page_39037.html http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2012/06/08/the-best-and-worst-masters-degrees-for-jobs-2/2/ Look at doing a masters in http://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=223884&postcount=14 if you're looking for subfields with really well defined job-streams coming out of them. (I'm not disparaging something like theoretical high energy particle physics, which is what my wife does, but it doesn't have well-defined non-academic jobs.)
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I'm interested in what I perceive as stuff related to applied maths: meteorology, language processing, cryptography, etcetera. But I'm also wondering how I can relate these sorts of interests to jobs or careers ... How do you feel about computer science?
TheCavorter
It might help to know where you are and also what courses you picked while doing the diploma. There seem to be two separate issues here. One is whether you could get into a master's program and the other is whether you should. Looking at some masters programs at random, you're almost certainly qualified on paper for some of them. Some require abstract algebra and real analysis. If you took the 'advanced mathematical analysis' course, I think most people would see that as having had real analysis. I don't know that the 'further calculus' on its own would count. It doesn't look like the diploma had anything approximating abstract algebra. Some departments look more favourably on people with unusual backgrounds than others. Right now, it sounds like your math background is fairly weak, but some departments will say "Oh, her degree was in graphic design, so it's totally understandable she hasn't taken X and Y, and she seems smart and motivated, so why not?" and others will go "Graphic design? WTF?" There are some places in the US that fund masters students, usually places without PhD programs. (I've honestly never figured out how funding works in the EU if you don't normally live in the EU, even if you're an EU citizen.) I don't think I can really say much on the "should you do it" front.
hoyland
It might be worth seeking out people who work in fields you might be interested in and asking for their advice. It could be that a Master's in math won't get you where you want to be but there are other options that will. Even if they have no idea who you are, people -- especially academics -- will usually respond to a nice introductory email.
goingonit
Hi Hoyland! I did the compulsory ones (abstract math, further linear algebra, further calculus) and four optionals (game theory, advanced mathematical analysis, optimisation theory & advanced statistics: distribution theory). Yes there was very little abstract algebra! I've been trying to pick up some of the things I missed there by going through recommended books from a typical undergrad curriculum. Oh, I didn't know that about departments with differing attitudes. In your opinion, is there a difference between the two departments? I have a hard time imagining that anyone would see a plus in an 'unusual background' like mine and be seriously serious ... it's got no relation to maths whatsoever (Unless you're Vi Hart)! Hi TheCavorter! I did think about comp sci, I don't know why but I can't seem to be enthusiastic about my (incorrect?) impression of it as software development & algorithms. Hi goingonit! I've read quite a few interviews about people's careers like those in http://plus.maths.org/content/CareerII and other websites and they all seem awfully straightforwards -- it's like all of them have known what they were interested in since they were 6 and then they went on to a related degree & career. It was really demoralizing.
Cat Set Go
Don't worry! I don't think that the interviews in plusmath accurately represent the variety of background that people actually have in these fields. Browsing them briefly, it looks like their career interviews are essentially "you should study math in school" propaganda so it's no surprise that this is how their interviewees got there. Plus, you have to think about how they find people to interview. The editors are both academically-oriented people who work for Cambridge University, so who do you think they tend to meet on a daily basis? You may get different results if you look for some career paths that strike your fancy and seek people out looking from the other direction -- plus you'll get a nifty demonstration of sampling biases in action!
goingonit
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