What to do about my incessant longing for life like it was in college?
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What to do about my incessant longing for life like it was in college? Lengthy explanation inside. To set the stage: I'm a 30-year-old happily married healthy man with a wonderful wife, a secure job, a great house, sound finances, travel experience, and a great circle of friends. Life is good, is the point. I graduated from a small liberal arts college eight years ago after a four-year stint that ended with a bachelor's degree. Life was good then too: Great professors, classes, dorm life, intramural sports, bar nights...this list could sprawl to 1,000 reasons. I have spent the last eight years doing my best to hold on to the pure joy and happiness of those four years. Some examples: After graduating, I was very active in starting an alumni group in Washington, DC and have since joined the alumni board. My wife and I go to Homecoming every year. My circle of friends from those years is still very tight-knit (godparents for children, for example). The rational part of my mind understands that dancing at the fraternity house until two in the morning is a memory. That walking down the hall and being randomly pulled into a guy's room to play video games is a memory. That staying up until 3am talking with a few close friends is a memory. Impromptu Dr. Mario tournaments, talking great books, feeling like you can take on the world...These are things that, by societal standards, I understand happen with much less frequency after college and will eventually stop altogether. But I miss them. I always will. As society demands, I continue to move on, with a steady job, bills, marriage, a house, eventually family, and whatever comes after that. I've done a good job with moving on, as life is indeed good. But it's not as good as it was, and as I get older (and as my friends do too), I have the sinking suspicion it never will be as good as those four years. My question, after this explanation, is this: What have you done in your post-college life to move on from those days? Is there an effective way to put those days on the shelf of one's brain and only refer to them from time to time?
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I'm with Vaike - incorporate things you loved about college to your life now, at least as best you can. I had a very similar college experience, and there are a few things that have helped me rekindle the feelings of college, but in ways that are a bit more appropriate to adult life. Some suggestions/anecdotes: - If you and your wife have a group of friends that you both get along with, take a vacation with them. Rent a house so it's like a dorm atmosphere. Spend until 2am drinking beers in a hot tub and talking about the things you used to talk about in college (dumb stuff, smart stuff, whatever). Bring video games or party games. My husband and I just did this, and after realizing how awesome it was we want to make it an annual event. I also realized that as magical as the time and place were at college, what we really love about it is the time we spent with who are interesting and fun. - Indulge in the activities you loved in college, and invite your current friends. You might be surprised how much they're missing the college lifestyle as much as you are. My friends from work are of varying ages (spanning about two decades and I'm the youngest one), but after I opened up to joining their social activities, I learned that we all love any excuse to drink and hang out (fundraiser, dinner party, etc.). Sometimes a "cooking club" turns into dancing at someone's house at 4am, sometimes a wine tasting turns into a debate about the merits of Lincoln's presidency. You might have to start an evening with an offer of dinner and wine, but if you break out the video games, I'm sure you'll have a few takers and the rest will be happy to watch and chat - just like it was in college. - Be spontaneous. We were at a wedding about an hour south of Oklahoma. The wedding was a small affair and over early. What the heck... let's go to Oklahoma, just to have crossed the state line! Most cities/regions have a list of tourist activities, and the locals often avoid those places unless they have family visiting - to heck with that! Go see those places and take pictures. Also, Groupon offers can be a good impetus to do new things. Because my husband and I went to the same school and both had a college experience similar to yours, it's tough for us to only refer to those memories "from time to time." Those were extremely formative experiences. But as we create similar memories with people in our lives now, I enjoy the present in a way that makes me happy for current experiences as well as past memories.
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Personally, going back to university as a mature student totally killed it for me. I physically can't do the 'up till two then in for lectures at nine' any more - I briefly tried to run with the eighteen year olds and gave up. Not only that, but when you listen to those people who are basically younger versions of yourself and your friends you end up realising the truth - you weren't intellectual, or changing the world, or awesome, you were just drunk and talking bollocks. And no-one else realised because they were completely wasted and only listening to themselves. So basically a harsh re-assessment of reality, as opposed to nostalgia tinted glasses has made me re-appreciate my grown-up life now.
Coobeastie
I am not at all joking when I say this: life will be like this again when you move into a retirement community, if you move to the right one. Until then, not sure. I think about it to, and so does my husband. He's always lamenting that no one "stops by" our house to hang out. This is not a good answer :(
dpx.mfx
As society demands, I continue to move on, with a steady job, bills, marriage, a house, eventually family, and whatever comes after that. Fuck the demands of society. Who says you have to settle down, buy a house, etc? A close friend lives the back of his motorcycle shop in a creepy industrial part of town. The rest of the warehouses are filled with other bikers, mechanics, builders, etc. It's very much a community, with everyone valued for their particular contributions and skills. One guy had cat/emissions/smog questions so he walked over a few shops to the guy who does a lot of smog work. My friend was working on my bike when one of the neighbors called needing a pair of hands to help fix his door after someone tried to break in to the neighbor's shop. I got sent to help fix the door while my mechanic friend fixed my bike. We have grand plans of frying up doughnuts in the turkey fryer out in front of the shop and sharing them around the neighborhood. Sounds like you're hungry for a community as much as anything. So go find one.
mollymayhem
Find a good apartment building. I lived in one in Seattle (Lower Queen Anne) where all the doors opened on to a nice little courtyard with a picnic table and some chairs. The apartments were kind of small-ish but it didn't matter much. Most people pretty much just left their doors open when they were home and hung out in the yard as the common area. It was a great place to bring your dinner out, have a couple of beers and shoot the breeze with the neighbors. We were all in and out of each others' places, watching movies, having improptu let's-go-out-to-a-show nights, whatever. I met my wife there. I think modern adult life isn't like the college days because we aren't as forced to interact with our neighbors all the time. Our houses are all designed these days to hang out inside or in the back yard. Privacy is nice, but can be isolating and boring. It's not as easy to hang out with someone on the spur of the moment if you have to make sure they're home, put on your shoes, get in your car, and GO to their house. Drawback of close community: having to be considerate of everyone else and put up with everyone else with respect to noise, occasional grumpiness, etc.
ctmf
Watching a room full of 50 year olds get their party groove on at the frat house on alumni weekend will show you how not to try and keep the college days foremost in your mind. Seriously, I think the key is to keep doing new and better things. College was fun for the responsibility-free reasons you identified -- but as an "adult" you can do other, way more awesomer things. It's only the best time of your life if you don't do anything very cool afterward, you know?
Forktine
Not to be a downer, but at least you have those memories. That's pretty special. I don't regret many things, but I've never experienced anything like what you describe, and I regret that.
Nothing
Going back to visit is a good reality check. Also, you can create *some* of those things in your current life, via picking your neighborhood carefully, reassessing how much of the rat race you want to buy into, creating a meetup group for your interests, investing in friendships...
zeek321
Great question, one that I think about a lot. For me it's not just college but a few other periods during my life where everything was just right (or at least, just right as I remember it.) Ups and downs come and go, and while there's nothing wrong with relishing all of those great memories, it's important to recognize the new ups when they come around. They won't be just like college, but if you watch for them you'll enjoy that same "You know what? Life is pretty damn sweet right now" vibe. But re: the things that made college specifically fun/special, I think all of the comments about "Community" are spot on. In college you're automatically made part of a community (the college itself) and you're thrown in with a bunch of people from all different places and backgrounds. Your horizons are expanded, and you hopefully make some fast friends with people you would never have met if not for the structured environment in which you were introduced. Our generations (Gen-X, Gen-Y) are prone to feeling adrift in the "real world" - once you leave college, that's it as far as community goes; if you're an extrovert and land in a nice neighborhood with other extroverts, then you might recapture some of that sense of camaraderie and enjoy the random pop-in or front porch conversation... but for the most part (gross generalization ahead), people leave college and get jobs where they spend 8+ hours at work, 2+ hours commuting, get home and watch TV for 2+ hours, and go to bed. So what happened to our civic sense of community? Here's the thing: you know all those community organizations our grandparents belonged to, like the American Legion/VFW/Lions/Elks/Odd Fellows/Grange/Masons/Eagles/Moose etc? They serve exactly that purpose. The problem is that most of the baby boomer generation rejected all those groups wholesale, which is why we grew up assuming that they're all clubs for old people. The younger folks who joined in their 30's are now the old folks who got left holding the bag when none of their kids joined. Younger people are joining all of these groups in increasing numbers, though, precisely because so many of us have that feeling that something is missing. I joined the Masons a few years ago when I began working from home, because I knew that I was going to go out of my mind without some kind of social outlet... and as foreign as the idea of joining a group for the express purpose of social interaction was to me at the time, now it seems like the most natural and sensible thing in the world. What you get is that structured sense of community (both in terms of your town, and the organization you've joined) and a place where you get to meet all kinds of people from all walks of life who you might never have met otherwise. Just like college you'll hit it off with some people right away, and meet others who instantly rub you the wrong way. If you join a healthy group, you'll probably find that they usually have their building open at least one night a week for members to go hang out. There are occasional generation gap issues as you might expect, but for the most part the older generation is just thrilled to see new people joining and getting involved after having to run things themselves through so many lean years. I wish it had occurred to me to join such a group years ago, but it wasn't until I learned that a 25 year-old coworker at my last job was in the Elks that it occurred to me that anyone under 70 might belong.
usonian
I think that you need to pin down the few specific concepts you miss - flexibility, sociality... And figure out how you can build them into your life now. Being an active alum has nothing to do with this. There are certainly things that are bette now - more money, adult relationships, fulfilling work... Make a list.
k8t
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