How To Search Hidden Email?

A good way to archive and search a large store of email on my computer?

  • How to store and search lots of old email. Hi. Maybe the green can help with this. I'm re-arranging a bunch of old email archives. I'm generally of the "Keep it all" philsophy w. email. And I've got a several years worth of mail now. What I want to do is keep my current mail (say the past year or so) in my email client (outlook) and online via web (fastmail). But I want to keep all the older stuff separate, in a searchable store. (Because both outlook and Fastmail get unhappy when dealing w. multiple gigs of email, and because I don’t really need emails from 4 years ago popping up every time I do a search) So… What I imagine I want is an email client that meets the following criteria: - Works well w. standard Unix Mbox-type files - Has indexed search capability - Works happily with very large store of email (say several gigs) - Has reasonably powerful capacity for doing advanced searches. - Bonus points for searching inside attachements - Bonus points for being free. I’ve looked at a bunch of possible solutions, none seem right. Eudora: Doesn’t play well w. standard Mbox files. (Notably – it doesn’t read attachments. I think there are other little problems, too). The Bat: Recommended for large mailstores. But doesn’t have indexed search Outlook: Too many problems to list Thunderbird: No indexed search Opera M2: Little if any advanced search I’ve also looked into a couple of programs that aren’t email clients that seemed possibly helpful: ImapSize, and Mailbag Assistant. But they didn’t quite do the job either. I’m sort of surprised that a program that matches these criteria is so hard to find. Surely I can’t be the only person who wants to be able to store and search a large collection of email? Anyone have any suggestions? (Gmail, I guess, might be a possibility, though I’m not sure I can see how that would work. Does anyone use Gmail in this way? Is it possible to upload lots of old email folders to it? ) Alternately – does anyone have other smart ideas/strategies for keeping all your old mail in a way that lets you get at it easily, quickly, without it getting the way of your day-to-day work?

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    I've got three solutions to this problem, none perfect. I've forwarded all my mail to gmail for the past two years and use it for searches. It's great at that. Your initial import is a bit trickier but there must be some solution. I use http://grepmail.sourceforge.net/ on plain mbox files with some regularity. It's not indexed, but it's fast enough for the occasional "find that old email" problem. I've built my own quick and dirty mail search program three times; once using Lucene, once using MySQL full text, once using mg. They all worked but not very well, email is just a specific enough data schema you want a really good custom tool.

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http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/ alone as a command line tool, or mairix configured as a tool within http://www.claws-mail.org/, which is also available http://www.gpg4win.org/. http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/does full text indexing natively, which is sort-of available http://shellter.sourceforge.net/evolution/.

gmarceau

Start fresh with gmail. Archive all old folders somewhere that you can search, but over time you will move away from it. Once this happens, gmail fits your requirements perfectly.

ets960

I sat down one day and took all my old email from my piles of email throughout the year, imported them into Thunderbird, used Thunderbird to move them to an imap server that was also accessible through pop3, then used gmail to pop stuff off (making sure to mark everything unread so gmail pulled it). Really the only problem with this is that it doesn't know all metric crapton of different addresses that were "me" at various times, so the threading is suboptimal. But the searching is nice. If you are careful with your import, you can even do some simple tagging when during the pop3 pulling.

cmm

I use grepmail for my MBOX archives (personal mail). For work email, I save it as PST files, then use http://alioth.debian.org/projects/libpst/ to convert those to MBOX format. I then use either grepmail on the files directly or run them through http://www.mhonarc.org/ to generate HTML archives of the mail viewable with a web browser.

mrbill

Nice ideas. I should have specified I guess that, yeah, I'm on MsWindows (XP). I'd heard about evolution, but didn't know it was available for Windows now. The Gmail option sounds cool (if a bit complicated wrt gettting older stuff up there). But is gmail limited to 2.5 gig or so? I actually have *more* email than that....

ManInSuit

There are paid levels of GMail that allow for more storage: 6 GB ($20.00 USD per year) 25 GB ($75.00 USD per year) 100 GB ($250.00 USD per year) 250 GB ($500.00 USD per year)

heydanno

For those using gmail as a backup-email-archive-searcher: How do you get your outgoing email in there? Just BCC yourself on everthing? Or something more clever?

ManInSuit

ManInSuit: When you use Gmail's SMTP server for your outgoing mail, it awesomely saves that outgoing mail to the Outbox of your Gmail account. I love that about Gmail!, even though I NEVER use the web interface for my account.

melorama

I just BCC everything to gmail now.

Nelson

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