Help me pick the best business producitivity management tool(s) for my consulting practice! (Not Daylite)
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Hello MeFi peoples, I am trying to find the tool or tools to run my sustainable business consulting practice, which I started in August, and I've been going a bit nuts with too many choices. I've been looking all over, and am getting near hits, but all "not quite there"s. Highrise sort of works, but has some quirks that that it doesn't hit the mark, and it's missing some of what I want to do. Daylite looks interesting, but no...well I'll explain below. Basecamp, same thing. Copper, ditto. Help me find the needle(s) in the haystack! To give some background, I am a sustainable business consultant who at the moment works solo. I imagine I'll be collaborating with others on some projects, but not necessarily regularly, not as the same company, and definitely not in the same office. I work on a Mac, from my home office. I imagine in my business I'll be working on site at some places. I asked a friend who knows me well for advice. They said get a tool that works for the near future, that as my business unfolds, it will become clearer what the needs are then, and that Iâll have the funds to take action on any new tools needed. I asked about Daylite, and they said it would be ok, but their sense is thereâs something that will work even better, last me longer. I named off others, like Basecamp (doesnât work enough how I think/work, they said) Copper Project, Contactizer. All No. Theyâre bad with names sometimes, but she said she got the hit that it might be something/some company that starts with âSer...â she also got that it may be a series of interlocking tools, rather then one. She had me search on the web, name off what I saw, and these were the maybes, that I in looking at them didnât get that they would be it: Zoho1st ManagerTeamspaceGoplanVertabase When I told her this, she said that Daylite might be it, that there is the possibility that what they may have in mind isnât something that Iâll recognize/believe Iâm capable of using yet. ~~~~ That said, I'm looking for some thing or things to do the following: Manage my contacts, and be able to associate emails, files, and tasks with them, make them actionable, rather then just another name/company I have on file. Have a calendar that I can visually see what I (and future collaborators) are up to Organize tasks and steps around projects Day to day tasks, not necessarily around a project (as in not all geared to group collaboration, projects. It covers the âmeâ things.) Invoicing, time tracking Something to associate the various components of my business together, so information doesn't just get lost in the void, in a place where it's not going to get action taken on it. Be able to collaborate with others on projects, but not require them to have a specific computer platform, or buy expensive software, since we may not work together more then once. +++ That's what I want to do, and here's the qualities I want in the tool(s) I use: Computer based (no handwriting for me) Friendly, human interface, rather then cold, hard, mechanical Geared to the creative/business minded, but works on a practical level Preferably web based (to allow easier, more malleable collaboration, without need for others to have the same software/platform) If software based, still allows for others in projects that don't have software to get meaningful, actionable information to work on the project. Mac style interface, as in well designed aesthetically and functionally, intuitive to use, robust in features, and useful ones at that. Mac tool integrated, or at least open to any mail client, not Outlook/MS Project/etc linked/dependent. I do have MS Office (Word, Excel) so thatâs fine. ~~~~ So thatâs what Iâm looking for, I look forward to your suggestions! I imagine for invoicing that I could use Billings, but if your suggestions incorporate it in some other tool, fantastic!
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Answer:
http://www.activecollab.com/ is an open-source, self-hosted basecamp clone, except without 37Signals standing there refusing to add features because it interferes with their 'vision'.
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I got it! My spirit guide Mahatma contacted me shortly after your post, and here is the rest of your psychic's message: "Ser....iously, why are you asking a psychic about productivity management tools?"
waraw
Ha ha, thanks for the useful reply. Because they've been right on many other things, including the best tool to create my website with, that would work will with how I do work. On another note, one feature from Highrise that I'd definitely like to see in what I use is smooth integration with email, like this: http://highrisehq.com/email
healthyliving
http://www.sugarcrm.com/ was recommended to me by my neighbor's cat (who is actually a reincarnation of Richard Feynmann, go figure).
jenkinsEar
take another look at highrise/basecamp -- it hits probably 75% of your requirements, and I think that's pretty good. I'm not psychic, but I think you're going to have difficulty finding something that'll do everything you want: most project management and CRM software still needs to evolve a bit before it is useful. There are some downsides to Basecamp (and I imagine, Highrise, which I haven't used) -- it can be a little *overly* simplistic at times due to 37signals approach to software. Still, for just a single person starting out who doesn't have time to waste on learning curves for software products, 37signals is a good choice. I wouldn't recommend SugarCRM at all for someone in your position -- it's very powerful, but it's stock install is not even close to intuitive. fwiw, it sounds like you want BOTH project management software AND CRM: the big commercial players in this field are Microsoft Project for the former, and Salesforce.com* for the latter. Maybe see what you like about those two products (which again, I think are too complex for your needs) and then look for other stuff like it? * SugarCRM is often looked at as the open source clone of Salesforce.com's functionality.
fishfucker
"most project management and CRM software still needs to evolve a bit before it is useful" should probably read "most project management and CRM software still needs to evolve a bit before it is useful to MOST small businesses". I have no doubts that a lot of the CRM/PM stuff that's out there is useful
fishfucker
Thanks, this is a start. FF, you're right, Basecamp et al are in some ways too simple in the function set, and have some just plain dumb flaws (ie not being able to calendar tasks more then a day away, on a specific day, and not have them be time specific, tasks are based only on completion time, not start time, etc) I'm not afraid of something being complex and feature rich, as long as I can make use of some of its capability early on, and grow into it as my practice grows. And yes, you're right, I do want project management and CRM in one tool. Daylite seems to be most of the way there, but I'm concerned about its Mac only and software based (as in every user needs to buy it, at $185 a pop) model. If only there were something like it, that was web based. Anybody?
healthyliving
[question edited slightly at poster's request]
jessamyn
You might take a look at http://www.contactoffice.com/.
Gerard Sorme
I used Daylite and abandoned it--it was too complex & rigid. Highrise is a little *too* simple for a few things, but it's far easier to use than Daylite was and is now central to my business. It's super easy to attach emails & very easy to attach files and notes. The free-form fields make it easy to capture all the "soft" info about a person or company. It's feasible (though I haven't done it yet) to have a virtual assistant go in and do whatever you don't want to do. I don't think you're going to find one tool to do everything. I run an online business using mostly an iMac. My tools: Highrise for contact management, the mundane tasks like "Call Gheeta today," and ongoing notes about a project or prospect. Life Balance for big-picture planning, project tasks, and personal goals--very useful. iCal for calendary stuff and daily timed reminders to work out, etc. TimeEqualsMoney for time tracking. It also creates basic invoices. Super easy: just hit "start," work for awhile, and hit "stop." Of these, only Highrise is web based. The kind of collaboration I do can be done on my company wiki or over Skype, so I don't need third-party collaboration engines. I'm looking for web-based money & invoicing management and like Xero the best so far, though it's currently focused on the New Zealand market and I bank in the US.
PatoPata
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