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  • I am a 29-year old straight male who needs some help with both the mechanics of online dating as well as becoming comfortable with the idea of online dating. Snowflakely details inside. At the age of 29, I have not yet been in a relationship, and I would like to change this. I got to this point through a combination of being busy with extracurriculars in school, having some social anxiety issues, and being relatively introverted and quiet. Since then I have dealt with the social anxiety, but I have not been successful in actually going on dates. I have in essence tapped out my social circles as well as the resources of my friends who have tried to play matchmaker. Despite these challenges, I'm confident that I would be an interesting person to date. I'm smart (currently finishing my Ph.D.), funny in an intelligent way (I love wit, allusions, and puns, rather than slapstick, lowbrow humor, or jokes that cut at others), active (I go swing dancing multiple times a week and am pretty good at it), and good at hanging out with friends (many of us love to play board games and talk about good books we've read, so we have plenty of fun). I also like cooking, am genuinely caring about others, am in good shape, and have a well-paying job. In short: I'm quality date material, but because I'm on the quieter side I don't make an immediate impression on people. It sounds like online dating was made for people like me, and so I need advice about the mechanics of using that tool, especially in regards to choosing a site and getting started. However, I also need help in being ok with the idea of online dating. I have a mental block about signing up. While in college, I was not interested in getting plastered on the weekends because that it seemed to me that, if you needed to get raging drunk in order to have a good time, you must suck as a sober person. (As unfair as that may be, I met lots of frat boys who did nothing to discourage that thought.) Well, I feel similar about online dating: if I can only get a date online, that must indicate that my real-world presence is pretty miserable. I don't know how to best address that barrier, and so I welcome any suggestions the hive mind has for dealing with that particular block. A couple of final details that may or may not be relevant, but I'll include because it's an anonymous post and so I'd rather err on the side of too much: I've been incredibly unsuccessful at pursuing relationships in real life. I've only gone on dates with less than 5 women, despite asking out close to a hundred over the last several years. None of those dates have turned into relationships; in fact, only one went beyond a first date. My friends (male and female, ranging from my age range up to 40s) assure me that I am not giving off awkward/creepy signals and that I am being reasonably selective in the people I pursue (i.e., I'm not just asking out any woman I meet, but I'm also not setting too high of a standard for who to ask). They are at a loss for why I am so unsuccessful. I have yet to be romantically kissed or have sex, and am starting to become nervous about my inexperience in both physical intimacy and in relationships in general being a liability. Finally, I apologize for the ridiculous number of parentheticals. I've been reading a lot of academic German lately and it has messed up my sense of reasonable sentence construction.

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    I also need help in being ok with the idea of online dating. ... if I can only get a date online, that must indicate that my real-world presence is pretty miserable. Maybe you could help me understand the above statement, because I don't understand it. How does using a dating website mean you can only get a date through a website? Would you say that since I found my apartment through CraigsList, I can only find apartments through websites? No, I can find apartments other ways, like walking around town looking at signs. And if that happens to work out, that's fine too. However, I still focus on finding apartments through CraigsList. And I buy plane tickets and other stuff online. And I find out about which of my friends are going to be in town through Facebook so I can meet up with them. In none of these cases am I incapable of accomplishing what I want without the internet. But technology exists for a reason: to allow us to do what we wanted to do anyway, but more efficiently than before. Online dating isn't the only way, but it might be the best way. If you don't question whether your friend is capable of getting an apartment if he or she mentions they found it from CraigsList, and you don't think the apartment is any less valuable as a result, and you don't think the stuff you buy from Amazon is any less real than the stuff you buy at a local store, and you don't question how authentic or meaningful the time you spend hanging out with an old friend you reconnected with on Facebook is, why would you question whether someone is good dating material if they mention how they met their significant other on OKCupid? All it means is they understand how useful the internet is. In fact, if online dating worked for them, that proves they are good dating material. Your statement implies that there's some hierarchy of different dating techniques, with the internet at the very bottom, but how did you decide to put it there? Why not put the internet in the middle or at the top? Why not say anyone who has to stoop to finding dates [at a bar, in school, at work, in church, in a bookstore, wherever people meet each other] must be incapable of attracting anyone on OKCupid? People who use dating sites can find dates in other ways. But they can only look through so many options, viewing so much essential information before meeting people, in a system that's so powerfully geared toward bringing compatible single people together, by using a dating site. You have a goal. You want a girlfriend. You've figured out one of the most efficient ways of accomplishing this goal. Use it. Once you have a girlfriend, no one will care (except to make bland small talk before moving on to a more interesting topic of conversation) how you found each other. What will matter is that you found each other.

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You know the great thing about online dating? Everyone is there because they want to date! That already increases your chances of meeting someone, because you already know everyone there is available and looking. You know the other thing that's awesome? If they're on OK Cupid (for example) they're in no position to judge you for being on OK Cupid. You're literate, intelligent, have your own life going on and can express yourself well in writing. That puts you ahead of a good deal of the profiles I saw when I used to date online, so get a good picture, write up a good profile and go meet someone. Good luck!

Space Kitty

It's astonishing to me that people are still snobs or skeeved by online dating, but okay, here you go: - You can't start and have a coherent conversation substantial enough to establish interest if you are somewhere loud, busy, or you approach a person who does not enjoy being approached and chatted up randomly. - You specifically have a hard time getting the better of your anxiety when talking to new people, which is often MUCH easier when that first contact is written. - Your articulate nature will self-select for other articulate people, thus cutting out an immense amount of chaff from your wheat. - You have an entire pool of interested people to present yourself to. This does not happen in the real world unless you go to a manufactured dating event. I guarantee you this pool is better and broader than that one, and even before you start filtering gives you better odds than the average room full of people. Honestly, just try it before you judge it (which is a good policy for life in general and...is maybe part of your problem?). They won't revoke your "walking up to girls in bars" card if it turns out you don't like it. There's no forehead tattoo. Give it a shot. I met my husband at a mutual friend's birthday party, which I'm sure is how you'd like it to all go down for you too. But most of my previous boyfriends I met online, either from dating sites specifically or hanging out in the same places.

Lyn Never

I want to chime in here because you sounds like me... a year ago! I definitely get where you are coming from. Right down to being a 29 year old and having no relationship experience. Like you, I focused on school and work. Although as a female, I didn't have the experience of asking out close to a hundred women, but I share your feeling of anxiety and nervousness about physical intimacy and relationships because I don't get asked out much in real life and my previous dates were rather blah. I was open to the idea of online dating, but I keep putting it off due to my focus on school and work. A very very bad experience with a douchebag that I met in real life pushed me to take an active instance towards dating to find a better guy. Long story short, I signed up at an online dating site, started going on dates, and less than two months later, I met a wonderful guy off that site. Now we've been very happy together for more than a year. When people ask us how we met, we tell them we met online and no one bat an eye. In fact, before people know where we met, I've got multiple people asking how I snagged such a hot guy :), so just because you do online dating, doesn't mean you're ugly and a social misfit or your real-world presence is miserable. In fact, the overall caliber of the guys I met online are way higher than the guys I met in real life, both in terms of physical looks and professional achievements. Of course, that is not true for every online guy I went on a date with. But there're bad apples everywhere, online and offline. I'm sharing my story to let you know that there're people out there just like you. It's normal to feel anxious and nervous in your instance, I was that way too. But it gradually went away after a couple of dates. Also, keep your expectation low helps alleviate some of the nervousness. I treat my first dates as a way to meet new people, that's it. Even if there's no romantic connection, you can still have a nice conversation with someone. Have your friends proofread your profile. You might need to tweak your profile several times to get the best response. Make sure you have good pictures of yourself up, be specific in terms of your interests as well as what you're looking for. Saying things like I enjoy reading, walking on the beach is not as helpful as saying I enjoy reading Stephen Hawking because... or I enjoy walking on the beach to relax after a long day, especially XXX beach, I would love to do so with that special someone. When you message someone, just a friendly Hi, I'm so-and-so, mention a personal fun fact from that person's profile and maybe one of your shared interests or a witty remark. Keep it simple and short. Being a guy, you'll have to take the initiative and send out messages. Don't get discouraged if you don't have a good response rate right away. Sometimes these things are just numbers and luck. But it's like finding a good job, you only need one right person :) Move things from online to offline quickly. Keep things online means you could be building a fantasy relationship in your head when the real person does not meet that high expectation. It's much better if you arrange a meeting after you message back a couple of times to see if you have in-person chemistry to avoid wasting each other's time. Feel free to message me if you want more advice. I hope you find that special someone soon.

wcmf

Space Kitty nails it. I am attractive enough but a bit shy. I now and then meet someone face-to-face, but I have a much easier time with online dating because I know my date is looking to meet someone and thinks he might be interested in me. And I know that he can spell and is not a Republican. :) I date a lot of very geeky men. This is how the best dates with geeks have gone: - talk a bit of geek, but then ask me questions about myself. Where am I from? What do I do? Do I like my job? - Smile at me - Remember you don't need to prove that you're smart. I know it. I want to see if we can relax and be comfortable together. - Do not watch the TV behind my head unless you are 100% positive you never want to see me again

bunderful

I don't know anyone who is interested in dating that does not participate in online dating. It's the norm, not the exception, for meeting people.

Wordwoman

Honestly, I got over the block by realizing that meeting someone at a bar or party isn't much different from pre-selecting someone online to meet up with you at a bar. In both cases, you're meeting up with strangers that you probably won't get past the first date with (nothing wrong with you or them; it's just hard to get the right kind of chemistry going). If anything, you're more likely to go on a second date with someone you met online, since you'll have more in common and more to talk about. Also, I was still mildly ashamed of online dating until I noticed that many of my real-life friends and acquaintances were also on the same site (OkCupid, if you're curious). It's becoming pretty commonplace, even though no one talks about it. It's not easy to meet people, period--online dating just widens the pool of people you can meet. I'd suggest you think of online dating as a supplement to your social life, not a solution. I was/am pretty introverted and quiet, but I'm finding that the more I date, the easier it gets for me to make conversation and hit on people I like. Even if the date goes nowhere--I've gotten more practice and a little more game. It's also been a useful exercise in helping me identify what I like and what kinds of people are really compatible with me. Mechanics--well, I'm female, so I don't think my experience will be particularly helpful to you. I'd only suggest that you make a profile that is very reflective of who you are--your sense of humor, your strong opinions, and your quirks. Post an honest picture of yourself. Also--try to have fun with it! If it makes you miserable or desperate, you won't get much out of it.

millions of peaches

I'm just going to put this bluntly: do you think you are an attractive person? You mentioned that you are in good shape, but I'm talking about being handsome/"traditionally" attractive. It does sounds like you have some good qualities about you; however, I think that a key element to any successful relationship is having a serious, mutual attraction to another person. That being said, really start asking your (female) friends on how you can improve your look. Also, don't bash the college binge drinking; find me an ex-frat guy who's 29 years old and still a virgin. Ditching swing dancing for a night at a bar might do you some good.

lobbyist

Try to think of online dating as going to a different kind of party. These are all people you just haven't run into yet in your city and this is an awesome way to meet them! It doesn't mean it's the ONLY way you can meet these people but it's likely to be a bit easier than roaming your city hoping to bump into a single lady with similar interests.

buteo

I also want to add that online dating is much easier for me than real life, because if someone contacts you online, you know that they're interested in dating you, whereas when you meet someone in real life, you don't know if that person is only being friendly in a platonic sense or interested in you romantically. You'll have to find that out, but in online dating, it's much more straight forward. So it saves you time. You also know if they're looking for a relationship or just sex based on their profile. When you don' have a lot of relationship experience, these things can be difficult and awkward to bring up. Again, online dating saves you a lot of headaches here.

wcmf

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