Window air conditioners and winter: how do they mix?
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I'm probably going to need to leave my air conditioner in the window during the '07-'08 winter, and I have a few questions about air conditioners and winter. I live in a studio in Chicago's north Uptown. I bought my first air conditioner last summer, a http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009T6ABA/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/. When the weather got colder last winter, my building's superintendent was nice enough to take it down and store it in his own storage unit. However, since the weather's getting warmer, he's putting it back up this Thursday, and he's indicated that unfortunately he won't be able to store it again this coming fall. I've bought an http://frigidaire.stores.yahoo.net/subr.html. Although we won't be able to screw the support to the window frame itself -- the frame isn't deep enough -- the superintendent is going to screw it to a piece of wood that he'll then wedge underneath the air conditioner. This will hopefully correct one sort-of-a-flaw from last year: the air conditioner wasn't quite flush with the window frame. Last summer, the outside part of the air conditioner was at a slight angle tilted toward the ground, which meant that inside, the bottom part of the A/C stuck out from the window a little bit on a diagonal towards the floor. (I'm not sure if that's clear, visually. Let me know if it's not.) The windows are perhaps only a year or two old, and very good. With them both closed, I barely had to open the radiator last winter. Additionally, I bought some spongy http://frigidaire.stores.yahoo.net/acweatherseal.html to put around the air conditioner. I am nervous about leaving the air conditioner in the window over next winter, thanks to the extremes of Chicago winters. I have this vision of a big ol' nasty Chicago blizzard rolling into town one morning or afternoon while I'm at work, or while I'm visiting family for Christmas, and then coming home to find the apartment freezing and my cat dead of hypothermia. I realize that could well be an irrational concern, but if so the irrationality stems from not understanding how this works. I do know that many people do leave their air conditioners up and in the window during the winter, so obviously, that sort of thing doesn't usually happen ... but I don't understand why it doesn't happen. (1) How does the way air conditioners are built prevent winter cold from entering in the apartment? Since air conditioners in the summer run outside air over freon and then vent the chilled air into the inside, what structurally prevents that outside-to-inside airflow from happening come winter? (2) The accordion material that expands to fill the window: is that material usually strong/insulated enough to prevent outside snow, wind, and temperatures from entering the apartment? It seems like you have to have a window plus a storm window in place to stop wintry elements from coming in; how can that accordion material do the job? Also, I'm wondering if people have opinions on, or experience with: (3) Evidently air conditioner covers exist (such as this http://amconservationgroup.com/catalog.aspx?catid=233 one), and sometimes people even use garbage bags. There seems to be some debate as to whether or not it's a good idea or not: opponents say it causes http://www.accovers.com/FAQ2.cfm that can damage your unit's internals; proponents seem to believe it prevents the cold from damaging your equipment. Are they good or bad, do they make a temperature difference in the apartment, and with the ones for the outside, how the heck do you apply them? Lean out the neighboring window? I'm on a first floor apartment (not ground, but one up) -- would I grab a ladder? (4) One of the reasons I'm leaving it in the window is because I have nowhere to store it. I have a small-to-middlin' studio; I don't foresee moving into a one-bedroom anytime soon. I think if I had to store it inside the apartment, I'd buy a really big-ass plastic container from http://www.containerstore.com/ and then maybe drape a blanket over the container or something so it could serve as a table. But any other creative ideas for air conditioner storage in a tight space? External storage is exorbitant in the city, and my landlord doesn't offer extra storage space to building residents (not to mention someone might run off with it). (5) This air conditioner weighs more than I'm able to lift. I don't know the upper boundary of my lifting ability, but I know that I can carry 50 pounds (the weight of a box full of reams of paper) and walk 30-50 feet with it, and that that feels near my maximum. (Weight training isn't the worst of ideas, I know, but that's for another time.) I've seen stronger men than I struggle with it (probably also due to its width and breadth). If given enough notice, I'm sure one way or the other (my super, Craigslist, etc.), I could enlist enough help to move the unit, but I wonder how I might handle moving it alone in an emergency situation. I don't know what an "emergency situation" might be, but I don't like the idea of having a piece of furniture in my apartment that I can't move. Any advice on how to move stuff that's probably above your lifting limit without hurting yourself? Is there inexpensive stuff you can get from a hardware store?
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Answer:
I would recommend against leaving the unit mounted during the winter, especially in Chicago. From my experience, no matter how tightly you try to seal up around the unit during install, no matter how much you "lock up" the unit for the winter, it leaks like a seive compared to the window it's "replacing". As for lifting extra large/bulky items, while https://store.uhaul.com/product_detail.aspx?id=2744 guys won't increase the amount you can lift, they do an amazing job of turning the bulky and handleless into the easily luggable.
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(1) It doesn't -- you need a quilted insulated cover for the unit. These are widely available. (2)No, it's not enough. Remove it and fit in some styrofoam blocking which you can cut to fit with a box cutter knife. Then use silicon caulking (tube-about $5, gun-about $5) to fill any gaps. Even better, buy a roll of insulation and stuff that in there. Cover the whole thing with a nice decorative quilt on a dowel for the duration of the winter for looks+more insulation. (3) Re: poss. condensation damage: I wouldn't worry. It may shorten the life of the unit very marginally, but we're talking about an appliance that should work a good ten years or so anyway, so NBD. Re: installing covers: Get on a ladder. (4) Get an actual table with a way big cloth over it, put the unit on an old blanket or towel, and slide it under there. (5) You and another person (of any gender) should be able to lift it easily. Arrange to have at least one visitor in May and another in September.
luser
In addition to the outside cover, I'd suggest buying some of the clear plastic insulation to cover the window for the winter as well (you know, the stuff you use a hairdryer on to seal). We had your exact situation, and that really did the trick with us. It'll end up ballooning out into the room a little bit, after you seal it off, but after covering it with a curtain, we didn't even notice that there was a window there all winter.
thanotopsis
If you choose to take it in and make a table out of it. You can put it on a furniture dolly to make it mobile. I like the idea of bringing it in out of the weather. I'm in Des Moines, with similar weather conditions as you. My A/C is stored in an unheated garage. I've only been able to make the units last about 5 years. After that time, the hot/cold cycles fatigue the metal and the coolant leaks out. After that I can refill it, but it only lasts for 3-6 months - never enough to make it through the next season.
kc0dxh
I have an air conditioner in my window that I left there throughout last year's Wisconsin Winter. Aside from the draft created in the gap (which we solved with a towel), we've had no problems with it.
drezdn
luser, re: (2) — I rent. I assume the silicon caulking you're referring to would be permanent and thus inadvisable for something I don't own, right? Re: (5) — I do understand that two people could handle this thing easily. I'm just wondering how, if I leave it in for the winter, I might move it myself quickly if I had to (inclement weather conditions, etc.) ... or whether the answer is simply that, "If you can't bench 100, then, no, you can't move it yourself in a hurry." (Although I suppose in such a situation I might canvas my neighbors — who are unfortunately strangers, the mood in the building seems to be to keep to one's self ... )
WCityMike
FWIW, most window air conditioners don't draw outside air into the cooled space, they draw inside air through a filter in the bottom half of the unit and exhaust the cold air through the vents at the top. They're still drafty, though. I once lived at a place where a combination window heater/ac was the main source of heating and cooling. Only on exceptionally cold (for Arkansas, when it got below 10F) nights did we have to break out the kerosene heater (rated for indoor use, of course!) In Chicago, where it's windier and colder, good insulation will be a must, but the unit itself will be fine. The accordion material will stop precipitation from entering, but will not do a good job of keeping out the cold. Better than an open window, sure, but hardly of any insulating value beyond that.
wierdo
"Last summer, the outside part of the air conditioner was at a slight angle tilted toward the ground, which meant that inside, the bottom part of the A/C stuck out from the window a little bit on a diagonal towards the floor. (I'm not sure if that's clear, visually. Let me know if it's not.)" Window A/Cs need a slight tilt to the rear in order to drain condensate to the rear. Condensation caused by a cover isn't really a problem except for possible finish damage unless you block the drain. A window a/c has the insulation value of a flat piece of tin at best. I'd remove it if at all possible. WCityMike http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/63186#950912 "I assume the silicon caulking you're referring to would be permanent and thus inadvisable for something I don't own, right?" You can by removable caulking, one brand name around here is DraftStop.
Mitheral
i lived in new york city and left my unit in the window all winter. it was fine. there was a little bit of a draft that i fixed by stuffing foam into the cracks (you could easily cannibalize a cheap egg-crate mattress for this and sealing with duct tape. i covered it with a quilted cover made for the purpose. not the prettiest option, but i just hung a curtain over the unit. you could further insulate by cutting plywood to cover the thin plastic side pieces. you could even back the plywood with foam.
thinkingwoman
how important is your window to you? Could you just get a big piece of 1" rigid foam insulation and cover the whole freggin' window. (you can get it at any building supply store) Tape around the edges and call it good. It'll insulate way better than the window alone, but also block the light, not too pretty but an option. Ya know, "get 'er done" Second question, do you pay your heating bill? If not all this fuss might not be worth it, just turn the thermostat up. All in all I second the exterior quilt installed any way you can and the sealing plastic that you shrink with a hair dryer.
sauris
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