Are there any good bebop jazz bands?

Can someone point me to the Bebop Jazz?

  • Needed: Recommendations for any and all Bebop Jazz artists, or links to sites that actually tell you which tracks/songs by which artists are Bebop. I would like to build a bebop collection but every time I ask for recommendations I always get vague ones-- "early"/"late" (Insert Artist Here), or an artist who has hundreds of recordings floating around in the ether where I can't get to them. This is, of course, fairly well useless to me. Several times I've been recommended Big Band genre material instead, which is just confusing and completely different. I'm hoping someone out there stumbles upon a new resource or one I've missed--so far every time I try research I end up frustrated. I know what bebop IS, but finding more than a few songs seems needlessly complicated. Also, yes, I've already got the entire Cowboy Bebop soundtrack on a recommendation.

  • Answer:

    Some Lee Morgan is occasionally referred to as "Hard Bop." If you enjoyed the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack you might enjoy "The Sidewinder."

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Check out: Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers Charles Mingus Clifford Brown (my personal fave) Max Roach Dizzie Gillespie Fats Navarro Wes Montgomery Oscar Peterson Lee Morgan (seconded) Have fun!

ozomatli

Gotta have some Charlie Parker in there. He invented it, right?

wsg

for sure

ozomatli

Wikipedia has a list of about 40 artists and major delineations of the style, but you've surely been there already.

rhizome

Bebop is a fairly narrow, yet influential niche in jazz's short history. With all due respect to ozomatli's recommendations above, Art Blakey, Charles Mingus, Wes Montgomery and Lee Morgan's best-known recordings all tend to fall into different niches, and I wouldn't think they're a good place to start if it is specifically bebop you're after. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:240 does a pretty decent job of sketching it out. Many consider "The Quintet's" http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:wbfqxq8gldte the definitive recording of live bebop, and considering the lineup (Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Charles Mingus, Bud Powell, Max Roach), who am I to argue?

peacecorn

Agreed--if I was going to listen to one bebop album for the rest of my life, it would be Jazz at Massey Hall.

box

For me, "bebop" is pretty much confined to certain artists from around 1945 - 1960. I would also consider most of Blakey, Mingus, Morgan, and Montgomery to be outside the strict "bebop" category. Not that it's not great music, its just not bebop. Pretty much any Charlie Parker album is going to be a bebop album (except for his stuff with strings, which you should avoid at all costs). In particular, Yardbird Suite is one of his masterpieces. His stuff with Dizzy Gillespie and/or Miles Davis is also great. Most of Dizzy's stuff could be considered bebop (or latin-bop, or big band-bop). Miles jumped around a lot, so look for him as a sideman on a Parker album. Dexter Gordon's early work is bebop. Anything by Bud Powell, pretty much. Sonny Stitt. Early Max Roach. Early Pat Martino is really post-bop, but very bebop influenced. Listen to Art Tatum's solo work to get a good sense of where bebop came from. Mainly, just look at personnel listings; if you see a lot of the names that have been in this thread, its probably bebop.

papakwanz

Oh also, just so you know, bebop is still a pretty broad style. I may be wrong, but I have the feeling that you think only certain types of songs can be considered bop. Bebop tunes don't all have to be up-tempo; even ballads can be-bop.

papakwanz

Well, papakwanz, that's the thing. In musical courses I took, Bebop was very specifically defined as faster, harder jazz. It was the same with documentary videos we watched. But somehow the internet has a completely different picture.

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