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How can I learn to get along with my family again?

  • How can I find a way to get along with my family again? When I'm around my family for big family occasions like Christmas, everyone seems to fall into long-ago-established patterns of behaviour in which I'm treated like an awkward/over-sensitive/"difficult" twelve-year-old. Anything I do seems to reinforce that impression, and (although I try hard to prevent it) I'm pretty sure that the more they see me that way, the less calm and less inclined to make nice about everything I become, making the whole thing worse. (Anonymous because they know I hang around here sometimes, and dear God am I in trouble if they know I'm asking this.) Background: I'm the oldest of three siblings, quite close in age (I'm 30). I moved out when I was 18 and visit two or three times a year; my siblings live much closer to my parents, and see them more often. We don't all work the same way - they're all quite loud and extrovert, while I'm quieter and more introverted - but I'm very fond of all of them, and they of me. We keep in touch regularly by phone and email and get along fine there. The problem: visiting family seems to go badly. Not when it's just me, parents and siblings, but usually when I'm visiting it's to celebrate birthdays and Christmas, when aunts and uncles are around too. I'm not sure why this particular mix of people creates this particular dynamic, but it does. I'm sure I was often quite annoying to them when I was a child. We do have quite different personalities, and I probably wasn't the best at being able to calmly and politely express what I thought/felt/wanted when it differed from what everyone else did. But the pattern that seems to have become established from that is that any time my thoughts/feelings/wishes differ from my family's prevailing ones, it's yet another sign that I'm being difficult, or sulky, or unreasonable. Even on fairly trivial things like Christmas TV shows - where we all sit quietly through the one my aunt likes, we all sit quietly through the one my brother likes, but ten minutes into the one I like there are loud discussions about how stupid it is and why does Anonymous even like this and can't we put some music on or have a conversation instead - it's a problem, and heaven help the dinner table when it comes to issues like making homophobic jokes (which I'd rather they didn't). Saying "I'll be happy to talk when this has finished, but I don't mind if you don't want to watch with me", or "Hey, I've got lots of gay friends - can we not make that kind of joke?" tends to get met with laughter, comments of "there she goes again," and patronising explanations that it's Christmas, Anonymous, and it would be nice if you could stop being so difficult. It's especially pronounced this Christmas because my father, who's most like me in personality, has had an incredibly difficult year of depression and unemployment, and mostly wants to be alone out walking the dogs and not talking to people. My family deal with this by making fun of him, I find that hugely upsetting, and there doesn't seem to be a compromise. It probably sounds like I'm exaggerating the calmness of my responses and the dismissiveness of their reactions here, but I'm not (or at least, trying very hard to recount such events exactly as they happened). My family aren't bad people, at all - it's just that in their minds, I really am a whiny kid who can't play nicely with everybody else, and that impression has been there for so long I don't think they can see past it. And after having spent most of my 20s trying desperately to find the exact right tone of voice and phrasing to express myself in such a way that they talk to me as an adult, not a child, up to and including "Please could you talk to me like an adult, not a child?", it's finally starting to occur to me that maybe there just plain isn't one. (Right now, for example, I'm holed up in a quiet room because my brother decided to look for YouTube videos of bears mauling people on the wide-screen TV in the room where we were eating breakfast. Everyone else, although not usually inclined to gory spectacles, thought this would be hilarious; I asked him politely twice to please not do that while I was eating, then left the room to eat elsewhere. Cue sighing, eye-rolling, and loud speculation about why I'm being so sulky at Christmas. But honestly, I just don't want to watch bears mauling people over my poached eggs and toast.) As I've got older, and more comfortable with the idea that I have a right to my own thoughts/feelings/wishes, this dynamic has actually got worse to the point where it's getting really unpleasant to visit them. I've tried everything I can think of - staying calm and expressing myself clearly (I'm a master of that by now!), ignoring the whole thing and trying to go along with my family as much as is possible, talking to people about the way I feel both individually and collectively, phrasing my feelings in terms of I-statements ("I find it upsetting when," etc), and nothing. For them, I'm the problem. It's not that they're hugely offended by my presence - they see my 'sulkiness' and 'being difficult' as more as a long-running joke and minor annoyance, if anything - but they can't honestly see themselves as acting in any way that should be any kind of problem for me. Ironically, we all got along better when I was more inclined to see any differences of mine as personality flaws, and accept my family's discontent about them as something that was ultimately my own fault. But that isn't exactly a solution I'd like to go back to. I'd like to find a peaceful, constructive way to break this pattern so we can all treat each other healthily and well, and so going home for Christmas isn't an increasingly unpleasant thing. We can do this on the phone and via email, and when there's only a few of us present - surely there has to be a way to extend that to big family occasions too? And I'd really like to fix it sooner rather than later, especially before me and my partner (who usually spends Christmas with his own family, but has seen my family dynamic enough times to find it baffling) start a family of our own. Help?

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    Wow anonymous, your family is mine, and you are me. I've tried everything I can think of - staying calm and expressing myself clearly (I'm a master of that by now!), ignoring the whole thing and trying to go along with my family as much as is possible, talking to people about the way I feel both individually and collectively, phrasing my feelings in terms of I-statements ("I find it upsetting when," etc), and nothing. What you have left out, and what seems to be the only thing that works, is humor. Whether it's laughing it off or doing your own version of eye-rolling "there-he-goes-again" to your brother's antics, humor defuses situations like that. In the situations you described, I would watch my preferred Christmas movie with friends before/after the family visit, say "oh that's lovely, watching bear-mauling at breakfast" and roll my eyes at my brother, and only be serious about the anti-gay comments. Choose your battles and respond to other things with humor. When I finally realized that asshole family people aren't worth me taking all their little digs seriously, and I stopped responding with sincerity (all those "I" statements and articulate expressions of your feelings just feed the beasts), the digs really let up. Really, you're not going to change them, you can only change your response to them.

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I actually think that what you call calmness and politeness are trigger behaviors that are aggravating the problem. You are reinforcing your, for lack of a better word, differentness by acting like they are monkeys in the zoo and you are the anthropologist trying to understand their strange ways from your superior perspective. It seems like they are all enjoying themselves and just doing whatever they normally would. If you don't like what they're doing, you might want to try being in their faces about it a little more. And you know what, you probably do this unconsciously when it is just your siblings and your parents anyway. You just tell your brother to knock it off or roll your eyes with the others, and that's why you all get along. But when the aunts and uncles come along, maybe because you feel like you should be on your best behavior, you start using textbook solutions for diffusing tension (when this happens, I feel this way) instead of just saying, "Hey, I'm watching this show, and I sat through yours, so could you quiet down while I watch mine?" Be direct, don't stand on ceremony, and EXPECT to be treated like an adult, because you are one. But recognize that being an adult doesn't mean being sanctimonious or superior, either. You aren't bringing civilization to the savages, you're eating with your family. Oh, and by the way, for heaven's sake, don't run off to your room if your brother does something you don't like! You're the oldest sibling, you don't need to go sulk in another room. Just tell him, "Watch your bears later, we're eating here!"

misha

I'm sorry I don't have any good advice, but my family is like yours. I just don't go. I have better, more healthy ways to spend the holidays than by sitting with people who think that making bigoted comments to make me unhappy is a great joke.

winna

Walk the dogs with your dad?

By The Grace of God

There is no law, written or unwritten, that says individual adults must spend Xmas with their growing-up families. Strangely, many adults (maybe most adults) think it's absolutely a commandment to do so. This idiotic "tradition" must end. The way they treat your father is despicable. I agree with gracedissolved; stop visiting them for the holidays on a yearly basis. Make it every three years, every five years. You know you have friends you'd rather hang with for the day; they don't want to hang with their families either! You can bank on that.

BostonTerrier

Ever heard the phrase “resistance is part of power” (meaning that direct disagreement just serves to affirm the power structure in place)? I kept thinking of it while reading your story. My family is similar, and I’ll tell you that direct, vocal disagreement does not work for several reasons, no matter how polite, clear, or logical. It’s reactionary, it’s more evidence for their labeling you as difficult and disagreeable, and it doesn’t motivate them to change. We have this cultural image of the lone dissenter standing up in court and saying “objection!” and it’s a formal, powerfully ingrained image, but dissenting that way rarely works in real life. Think more along the lines of Gandhi. (seriously) What works for me (beyond avoiding them as much as possible and minimizing holiday time spent at home) is just living my life around them. Instead of responding negatively, I tune out and don’t respond. I come from the position of making them work to engage me as a general rule. I don’t try to ask questions I think they want me to ask them or otherwise make small talk, I don’t laugh and smile and smooth things over and go along. If they want to tell jokes that offend me, I don’t laugh, and excuse myself for a plausible reason without creating drama. If they tease me, or badger me, I respond honestly and briefly and let them get it out of their system and don’t get worked up, then go do something else. I ask for what I want and don’t fall all over myself preemptively to find a compromise. In other words, I withhold positive reinforcement unless they really deserve it. The more important thing, though, is that somewhere along the line my attitude shifted and I really, truly disengaged from them. It’s cold, yes, but I just had to stop caring so much. I had to distance myself. Sometimes in conversation I look directly around and cultivate the feeling that I’m 1000 miles away from the person across the table and my mind is already on tomorrow and this conversation is just so much fluff and nothingness. I imagine that they’re strangers and home is a hotel, and suddenly I’m not nearly as acutely embarrassed by them and don’t take their actions as a personal reflection on me. At first, the more obvious I was in this, the more they tried to get a rise out of me. But I know that losing my temper first means they win. Doing this long enough, combined with acting serious and grown-up and just taking care of my business while at my family home, has over time won me much more respect. Also, I realized that part of their attempting to gain control over me showed me how much power I had. Resistance is part of power, remember? Well, their resistance to my growing up, my adulthood and success showed me that I had more power and pull all along than I thought. Consider that some of it is insecurity and jealousy, and some of it is people going along with stronger personalities and picking on you-not because they don’t like you, but because they gain in some way by making you the scapegoat, possibly deflecting attention from themselves out of fear. If you win over the stronger personalities to your side, or get to a mental place where you can really disengage, the others are cake. Just visualize them collectively as getting smaller and father away and further into the past-picture them as an annoying little gnat or just flapping jaws spewing so many words. Think transcend and work around. The only way to win is not to play.

Nixy

I spent many years trying different strategies in order to spend a "peaceful," "constructive" Christmas with my family. I eventually came to the conclusion that the family I had in mind when I booked my plane tickets and bought presents had nothing to do with reality. It was an ideal, based on a pastiche of childhood memories, TV shows and popular culture. The real family, though hardly a bunch of villains, required too much effort and produced too much stress for me. Unlike some of the others above, I don't see the point in taking the trouble to be with people with whom you must then make an enormous effort to ignore, "be above" or "resist." I choose not to go, and my holidays have become very peaceful indeed.

Paris Elk

Make other plans for the holidays. When asked why you aren't coming home, explain it objectively and dispassionately. Don't make a big deal out of it. If they make a big deal about it, tell them you'd be happy to discuss it after the holidays, separate from the whole family.

TheBones

I think some families have members who just... don't fit into the established hierarchy. I never understood as a child why one of my aunts never came home for Christmas. Now I *totally* get it. My family has started treating me as an adult enough to stop getting me the cool Christmas presents, but I've been trying to work through this for a few years and I still get lectures on how I load the dishwasher wrong. My much-younger sister-in-law, who they never knew as a child, does not get treated like this, which makes things even more peculiar. My new theory is that family holidays are best indulged only every few years, when it's been long enough that you're willing to put up with the BS bits. 2-3 times a year may be more than you're really cut out to handle, but on the up side, if you're only doing it that often now and you live some distance away, it's not hard to phase it back. Also, not staying with people when you are visiting is also helpful; I can't afford the hotel thing, but discussion of this same problem with other friends dealing with it has indicated that when you have another place to go where you can escape the family, it's easier to cope. But in a lot of ways, I think it's just a matter of trying not to force it to be something it isn't. I got raised to value certain things in a family that as an adult, I realize my family doesn't in fact have. It's an ongoing adjustment, but over time it's getting easier.

gracedissolved

Walk the dogs with your dad? This. At least one other person in your family has found a way to carve some separate space out for himself. Whether or not you walk the dogs with him, he is modeling at least one way to be there, but not really be there, if you see what I mean. And, stop taking the bait. The anti-gay jokes are only made more funny when you get all angry about them, for example. There is a clear pattern to your interactions, and you are very much playing your part. If you want a different result, do something different -- you aren't going to get a different outcome by doing the same thing you've been doing for 30 years. Lastly, I agree with the people who have said that maybe you should visit your family less often. Sometimes a break lets everyone begin again with a cleaner slate, less imprisoned by the old patterns of interactions.

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