am i being strung along by potential employer?
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am i being strung along by potential employer? Hello...I would appreciate some advice.. I interviewed for a position in June and was contacted by the department manager 3 weeks after the interview and was told that he wanted to hire and one other person. He said he would have a duplicate position created for me and posted to the HR website and I would not need to interview again and could just reapply and get the process going. The HR department was aware the position was being created "for me". The position was finally posted at the beginning of August and I applied. The manager then calls me and said "Unfortunately I have to interview at least 4 people" and proceeds to tell me that there is someone or some entity that is pushing for someone else (already employed by the same institution, different department) to get the job. He then asks if I can come in an interview again because they have to start the HR paperwork process over. He says it will be the same questions and same audience (fail!) I was really disappointed because I truly thought the position was created just for me, and I was truly excited for the position as it is an area I am trying to get into and honestly there aren't many of these types of jobs available... at least that I've seen in the past 6 months of my job search. I now know not to put all my eggs in one basket, no matter how "sure" something may sound. So when I email the manager back to confirm an interview time, I really want to make it clear that yes, I will come back to interview. But, I am hesitant if someone/something actually wants him to hire someone else. He reiterated that I was the best person for the job. But, I'm unaware of who makes the final hiring decision. I believe it is him, but who knows. Or, should I just let it go, remain patient, and re-interview without mentioning them? I don't want to appear rude, but I don't want to be a completely desperate pushover, either. I'm currently employed so I don't NEED the job. But I sincerely want the position. I can't tell if the manager was just misinformed about hiring procedures, or am I being strung along? Any advice would be appreciated..thanks in advance for your time in reading this.
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Answer:
i think you're letting your disappointment (which is perfectly justified) cloud your thinking. You thought this exciting job was a sure thing, but it wasn't and now you have to start looking again. It's a bummer, but the main thing you need to do is accept the situation for what it is. Treat this as just another job that you may or may not get. Schedule the interview, but don't stop pursuing other positions.
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Other answers
Is this private or public sector? If it's public, I can say that all of these things (delays in posting the position, minimum interview requirements, 'open' competition that is not really open) are pretty much the norm. In Canada, at least.
WinnipegDragon
So it sounds like a university. This is well within normal for large public institutions.
oddman
I can share two points of anec-data about this. One of the mega-corps that I worked for did, in fact, have a policy that required them to receive a certain number of applications and interview a certain number of applicants for an open position to be filled. I can recall several times when a posted opening had to be pulled and re-posted because they couldn't get enough applicants the first time round. Second point is that I once took a position that was created for me. It took about 8 months all told to make it through three rounds of interviews and HR/Finance red tape even though I was the only applicant. It doesn't sound to me that you're being toyed with. If you really do want the position, I'd suggest gritting my teeth and going to that next interview. Good luck!
bluejayway
HR at some firms is its own separate entity. If they drive the hiring process this way, it probably isn't in your potential bosses interest to burn political capital to circumvent the process if he knows he'll be able to choose whomever he wants anyway. I've actually been given an e-mail offer at one firm, and only then done the HR rigamarole - which basically consisted of a junior HR person filling out the forms for me.
JPD
thanks for the helpful feedback all. i do have clouded thinking now! @winnipegdragon -public sector, huge institution
kleenkat
Or, should I just let it go, remain patient, and re-interview without mentioning them? I don't want to appear rude, but I don't want to be a completely desperate pushover, either. Do this, no one will think you're a desparate pushover, they most likely won't think of it at all, and if they do think of it, they will think that you really want the job and will be committed and that will reflect well on you.
Kwine
i'm almost 30 and this is my first "serious" professional dealing with anything beyond a 75-100 person company! I am so naive about these processes... wow!
kleenkat
At my (large) company, bosses are required to consider internal applicants first. So even if they know they want you, when a job is posted and people apply, they have to go through the internals first and deem them unqualified/not a good fit/whatever before they can hire you. Also: many times the bosses doing the hiring get the rules figured out as they go. Mine used to make definitive statement about how soon a postion would be filled, what a great applicant was interviewed and would be coming in next month, etc., only to have the process drag out over and over again. She's been the boss for 10 years now, and now says things like, "You know, we're going through the process. It looks good, but anything can happen." When she hired her own secretary, she had to wait about 3 months for a start date because HR was insisting on verification of high school graduation from a foreign country. Stick with it, go through the steps, and don't take it personally.
SLC Mom
I am at the beginning of this process for a government job. I won't start working for 2 months, at least, and yes, if during the interview process for my job they find someone they really like, then they will put them in the same position that you are in. My guess is that you were interviewing for a job that was created for that "one other person" who was also hired initially. They decided they wanted you too, so they replicated the process.
rockindata
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