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  • My wife is pregnant and I'm not happy about it. Obviously that's a problem. Help me try to become happy about it. I love my wife more than anything in the world and would do anything for her. When I proposed to her back in 2007 we discussed kids and starting a family and I said at that time that I definitely wasn't ready to have kids but that I imagined one day, after we were married, I would be. She agreed to wait until I was ready. We got married in 2009 and then, about 19 months ago, we decided to start trying. I still wasn't sure I was ready but I'm in my early 30s and she's fast approaching 30 and since, as I said, I'd do anything for her I figured that we would just try and then see what happens. Plus, with her PCOS, we both knew it would take a little longer than most people to concieve. So we tried and tried and tried some more and nothing happened. During these 19 months there were moments where I was genuinely excited at the prospect of having a baby. I liked the idea of how happy it would make my wife for her to have a baby, the idea of playing games with it and teaching it things. But now that she's actually pregnant, I'm not happy at all. I've not been sleeping much since the announcement so I've had a lot of time to think about why I'm not excited. After much introspection, I realise only now that after almost two years of trying and nothing happening, I had started to lose interest in the idea of a baby and that I had actually started to think about the idea of never having kids. And that prospect actually appealed to me. My wife and I could save our money, maybe retire early, enjoy our lives and see the world. When we were trying, I didn't realise that while we were still trying, but I realise it now. So that's the first reason I'm not happy. On top of that are a whole range of other factors that make me feel pretty bummed about this situation. They are; 1. Money. Although together we earn enough to get by and pay for a baby, I'm not in what you'd call a stable job. Infact, there's a small chance that I could lose my job within a few months of the baby being born, if not sooner. If this happens, it'd mean we'd have to live on welfare until I could get a new job. And we're in a mountain of debt; debt we're paying off but which a baby could possibly help increase. And although my wife has a stable job, she'd be on maternity leave, so all in all there's a chance that we might not exactly be in the best financial situation to be paying for all the baby expenses we'd need to pay for in the first few months of baby's life, let a lone the rest of its life. 2. What Will Friends and Family Think About My Lack of Excitedness? My wife is already pretty upset that I'm not excited. So when we start telling friends and family, what will they say when they see I'm not excited? Most of our friends have kids and love kids so I can just see their dissaproving looks already. And my in-laws are judgemental enough. I can already hear the lectures telling me to straighten myself out for the good of the kid and my wife but even just the idea of being talked to like that just pisses me off. And I really don't want to get "instructions" on what I should be doing, ie; "you're changing the nappy wrong" or "you're holding it wrong" or something like that. 3. Since I'm Not Excited, Am I Capable of Loving The Baby? So the way I see it, I have nine months to get used to the idea of being a dad. And I think it's possible that I could just be in a momentary funk and that I really could get excited about this before the birth. But what I worry about, what really scares me is what happens if I don't get used to the idea? What happens if the baby arrives and all I feel is a sense of loathing and/or begruding acceptance that this baby is here, robbing me of my sleep (I LOVE sleep), my spare time, my chances of ever retiring early, my money, my time with friends and forcing me to change its soiled nappies. And what effect will this lack of a bond between my child and I have on my wife, who is guaranteed to love the child the second it pops out of her? 4. Am I Going To Mess This Kid Up? I think probably. I have an unconventional world view and for example, I'm already planning to make sure the kid knows Santa and the Easter Bunny arent real. I want to tell the kid when its young that swearing is OK in moderation, just dont do it at school. I'm also worried I'll accidentally drop the baby at some point. I'm worried that the baby will have a disability and that we'll have to deal with that for the rest of our lives and frankly, if it does have a disability, I'm not sure I could handle that at all. 5. Sex and Sleep. Almost everything I read says sex stops for months, sometimes years after a baby. Let's be clear about this; I love having sex with my wife. That's obviously part of the reason why I'm in this mess, but the idea that I might be required to be celibate for some time after the birth is... upsetting. But then, it may not matter as I've also read that sleep is virtually non-existent when you have a baby. So I may not have any interest in sex anyway. But I love sleep almost as much as I love sex so it's not really a win. My wife and I have talked a lot about these fears and she says that they're natural. They probably are but that doesnt make me any less worried. In the end, what I've basically decided I need to do is just man up, accept responsibility (which I've done), accept that this is happening, that it will happen and put on a happy face for my wife. But the happy face part is proving more difficult than I ever imagined. To try and get the happy face happening, I've read a lot of what people think are the positives of having a baby. People say hearing it laugh is great, that your life takes on a whole new meaning, that being called "daddy" is the greatest joy in the world, that going baby shopping is lots of fun and numerous other platitudes. None of it's working for me. In fact, some of it just plain freaks me out. Being called "daddy", for instance, just scares the shit out of me. And going shopping for baby stuff is something I really, really, really don't want to do. The idea of pushing a pram around in public is almost embarrassing. Again, I'm not trying to shirk my responsibilities at all. I'm going to be a dad and I have to accept that and for the most part I have. I just want to find a way to really get behind it. To be happy! So how can I be? Tell me why my fears are nothing to be feared. Or alternatively, sell me on the positives of having a baby and why my fears won't matter because of all the positives. ANSWERS I'M NOT AFTER Since I'm asking this question anonymously, let me say what kind of answers I'm not after, and why. 1. Please, no "get a divorce" answers. That's not going to happen as far as I'm concerned. I love my wife too much and that's why I'm asking this question - so I can be happy for her which, in turn, will make her happy - so a divorce is out of the question. 2. Please, no "get counselling" answers. My wife and I discussed this and I don't believe in therapy or counselling since in the end it's just paying for something you can do for free - talking. Also, in the end I know it's just going to be advice like "accept responsibility for what you've done" so I don't see what value there would be in paying to be told something I already know. 3. No abortion suggestions. I have nothing against abortion - I'm pro-choice and so is my wife. But I couldn't ask her to give up this chance at being a mother when it means so much to her. I'm not ready to be a dad but I will be one for her if it makes her happy, so getting an abortion is, for all intents and purposes, out of the question. I just want answers that can tell me how to be happy about this situation that don't fall into the usual "a baby will change your life for the better" platitudes. Thanks in advance.

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    Hang out with someone else's kids. You'll get to see the dark side (They're terrorized rage balls with no sense of control), but you'll also get to see why, after millions of years, we keep having them. They're incredible, smart, funny little people who love you to death and depend on you and for once in your crappy little life you are the center of something. You are a special snowflake. So, babysit a little. Also, counseling. It's not "just talking". There is an enormous amount of power in talking to someone who is a step or two away from your situation and that power gets even stronger when it's someone designed to help you dig through your stuff. Really, really it's not "just talking".

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you do get a little walking, talking ball of love that will love you unconditionally. If you get one of these, you are really lucky. I always thought it was only dogs that loved you unconditionally! My son's happiness or unhappiness with me is usually based on what I will or will not allow him to do. Then again, he's three, and extremely stubborn.....just like I was. Just like my husband was. Whoops! Oh, and about the being scared about dropping the baby thing - I drop stuff a lot. I worried years before I had a child that when or if I did, I would drop it. Trust me, I dropped the diaper bag on the ground every day when I was carrying the baby, a purse, a bag, groceries, etc. One day I held the door open so my little boy could run out of the house, and I realized HE'S NOT A BABY AND THE TIME PERIOD FOR ME DROPPING HIM HAS PASSED. I wanted to toss some confetti in the air.

pinky

And what effect will this lack of a bond between my child and I have on my wife, who is guaranteed to love the child the second it pops out of her? I'm glad somebody brought up PPD as a counter to this. Your wife is going through a lot with pregnancy and then the birth. It's not "guaranteed" to be all sunshine and roses for her after the birth- many women go through complicated emotions on top of their physical recovery. Don't push all the work of caring for and loving your child on your wife under the assumption that it's all going to come naturally to her; that's an easy out for you, but it's not going to do your relationship with your wife any favors. Try to man up and let the baby be the only one needing babying.

ThePinkSuperhero

If your wife happens to suffer from any flavor of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_depression, therapy will be extremely important. Please, rethink your attitude now that therapy is "just talking." It may not be your cup of tea, but that attitude could be deadly for your wife and/or child. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17150072 I know you're not asking for this, and the article is behind a paywall. But academics are nice, they put the findings in the abstract, and I'll insert a salient bit here:Of the 40 articles included in this qualitative systematic review, most studies focused on women's experiences of postpartum depression where help seeking emerged as a theme. A common help-seeking barrier was women's inability to disclose their feelings, which was often reinforced by family members and health professionals' reluctance to respond to the mothers' emotional and practical needs. The lack of knowledge about postpartum depression or the acceptance of myths was a significant help-seeking barrier and rendered mothers unable to recognize the symptoms of depression. Significant health service barriers were identified. Women preferred to have "talking therapies" with someone who was nonjudgmental rather than receive pharmacological interventions.(emphaisis mine) So. This follow up does not answer how to get excited now, but it does provide you with some insight into how your patterns of talking may affect your wife in the long term. If she discerns that discussing her excitement are "not ok" then the inner brain will make a leap that later, discussing her sadness, disappointment, and stress will also not be ok. ESPECIALLY if you decide now that your sadness, disappointment, and stress are not on the table for discussion in a healthy and effective way. So. What I am saying, is yay to you for loving your wife so much that you are (by the nature and wording of your question, I can tell) committed to preventing and mitigating these problem for your wife. You will do everything in your power to help your wife be happy - you've basically said that. So I am begging you to expand your toolbox over these next 7 to 9 months.

bilabial

Also, if you can handle some NSFW language start watching some Luis CK comedy. You may not get it today, but you will get it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn6XfTk-ouY&feature=related. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ZS11fc_Go&feature=related. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLhC6NSlDzY&feature=related. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNSf-KQORRk&feature=related. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTrCBcrFMCI. But, most importantly if you only watch one clip, watch this one that is 100% safe for work and 100% on dealing with your exact fears: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJI8wLao1yY&feature=related.

Nanukthedog

It's not that easy to tradition, on demand, between one identity and one stage of your life to the next. It's a gradual process and it takes time and it even extends after the baby is born, especially those first six weeks which are sort of like your time in the mouth of hell, at least that's how it was in our house. Gradually the stuff you like about the new life exceeds the stuff you liked about the old one, because the old life is like a pair of pants you can't imagine wearing anymore. In the meantime you rely on the terrific human rituals that exist to help us through these things, which is stuff like saying Thanks! brightly when people say congratulations. In short, go ahead and be bummed, just don't make an overly big deal out of it or beat yourself up about it because it is pretty common and people generally don't admit to it all that readily, so it's under-reported. I also recommend starting to develop a very dark sense of humor. That really worked well for us.

A Terrible Llama

My brother and his then-new wife discovered, to their appalled astonishment, that she was already pregant at their wedding and they hadn't known it. He had already raised two kids; his youngest was 13 and he was more than ready to be done. She had never wanted children. They were 44 and 47 at the time. They lived an hour away from each other and, because of their jobs, hadn't yet worked out how they might combine their households. They had hoped for some time to figure out how to be married to each other. But blammo! Late-life surprise. I am not privy to the decision-making process that led them to go ahead and have the baby, but my sister-in-law told me once that they were both so distressed about it that they couldn't even talk about it with each other until she was about 7 months pregnant. He went to her prenatal appointments with her, but outside of that they just didn't discuss it, they were that freaked out and unhappy. They finally both had a softening of their hearts during an ultrasound late in her pregnancy, and started to get cautiously excited. I don't think things have become magically great. My nephew is almost two and they still maintain two households because of their job situation; my sister-in-law and the baby sometimes spend the week at her place and the weekends at my brother's; sometimes somebody does the hour+ commute. My parents, who live next door to my brother, babysit a *lot*. My sister-in-law still struggles to navigate changes in her life she didn't want. My brother tries not to think about how he'll be 60 when the baby is 13. But, on the other hand, my nephew is awesome and we all dote on him. He is thriving, and while they don't enjoy the complications of their life, they enjoy him a lot. They take advantage of family to watch him overnight so they can have some of the new-married alone time they never got. My sister-in-law can't believe how much she loves the baby. They're adapting, with a mix of joy and frustration, and, while it's hard, it also seems OK.

not that girl

Barring therapy (I'm not going to tell you to get some, because you've taken it off the table.), get a copy of this book: And Baby Makes Three by John M Gottman PhD and Julie Schwartz Gottman PhD. I'm not pregnant yet, but I've already gotten a copy. However, I do want to point out that you say: since in the end it's just paying for something you can do for free - talking. One of my favorite sociologists, Deborah Tannen dispels this. In a nutshell, the ways you and your wife are talking aren't working (you're unhappy, and she's disappointed even though she knows these reservations you have are normal) a good therapist will help you and your wife find different, more effective ways of talking. If the therapist can't do that, it's either because they' aren't a good fit, or because you (and/or) your wife have decided not to change the ways you communicate.

bilabial

Yeah, tell the kid all you want that santa doesn't exist. You may find they greet your insistence with the evidence of pressents that magically appear over night, the cookies that disappear, and any number of magical explanations that prove you wrong. Q.E.D. If you are a glutton for knowing how wrong and uninformed you are about the world, teach your kid Q.E.D.

Nanukthedog

Well I'm going to go against the grain and say yeah, you really can mess your kid up. Not by telling him/her there's no Santa Claus, but by resenting him for keeping you from having the perfect, free life you envision for yourself. My wife and I could save our money, maybe retire early, enjoy our lives and see the world. Yet you were close to welfare and had a mountain of debt before he was even on the radar. That's ok, you can raise a kid that way, you can be happy that way, you can lead a meaningful life that way. But what it means is, this kid is not the reason your finances are tight or you're not yachting around the world or whatever. This kid is not at fault for anything that happens coincidentally or even as a result of his existence (changes to your sex life, sleep patterns, other routines, expectations, etc.). No matter how ambivalent you are (and most parents are ambivalent at one time or another), don't ever, ever, ever blame him for being born.

headnsouth

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