Should I stay or should I go?
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Should I stay or should I go? I started college a year ago. Since then, I've found two horrible jobs: one which doesn't pay me unless I fight for it, and the other, until recently, was good but due to one small mix-up has taken a turn for the worse. The second company I have a contract with. Quitting that job would result in me paying back a years worth of rent, which I can hardly afford. I can, however, move within the company, meaning that I don't have to stay at this location. For a while before both jobs took a turn for the worse, I was contemplating moving out to the west coast (namely Seattle) and finishing college there. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy at my current school, I just think that as a computer science major with a part-time commitment to another company (therefore during the summer I have to stay in the area) I would have more opportunities on the West Coast than I would in the Chicago-Indianapolis area. After weighing the pros and the cons I thought that staying at my current school would be the best for me. I'm not the best student here, but I have myself set up for success. I am in a position where nearly every professor in the department knows and likes me, and I have quite a few contacts at companies that I would risk losing by moving. Then the problems with my job and the college itself started. Something happened at job #2 that was one of those "it's not your fault, but we need someone to blame" issues. Now I've been hit with a level of resentment that makes it impossible to get anything done or feel any sort of comfort in my work environment. At school I found out that for the second year in a row I am being refused the right to file my FAFSA as an independent despite being one on several levels, including taxes (filing as a dependent I am not eligible for any aide, but the idea of my parents contributing to my education is rather laughable). So now I'm back where I started. I need to finish the last year of my lease, but if I decide to move I'm probably going to take the year off of college and just work. I've talked about this all with my boyfriend (he's been my substitute family since I moved out almost, so his opinion does count) and he thinks it's ludicrous that I would give up my advantages for the unknown, especially since he plans to stay here for grad school (I don't think he'll make it in, so I don't know how seriously to take that concern, but that's a different story). Pros: Better working environment Extensive world-wide travel (my contemporaries on the West Coast do world travel frequently) A chance to see a new place (never been to Washington, and only Southern California) Better chances at an internship and real part-time experience Possibly more networking with companies Different outlook on academics/new teaching style Small (~$1,500) tuition decrease for out-of-state, Larger (~$5,000) if I can find a way to get in-state Cons: Boyfriend thinks I should stay/is staying Almost have in-state tuition Already very well established in my current area Highly thought of despite not being strong academically Loan companies will probably expect me to start paying them back (since I've been out of school for 6 months) There are more factors that play in, but those are on an emotional level. I could add them into this, but I think in the end those have to be my choices and it would be pointless to act as if it were otherwise. What do I do?
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Answer:
There's quite a lot of hackneyed statements that fit this situation. "The devil you know is better than the devil you don't" "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." We have these phrases to avoid the truth. This is a big decision. It's a life decision. And the chances are you've already made it. You've done what you're supposed to do in these situations, made a list of pros and cons and all that, but you're still in a conundrum. I think you're having trouble because the highly reasoned arguments you've come up with for either side do not address the emotional part of the problem. The end of your question glosses over the crux of the whole predicament. It's that emotional stuff that's hitting the brakes on the big blue bus of making a decision. What do you want to do? There is no "right thing" to do. Logic can inform the decision, but it can't do all the work.
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Hello fellow West Lafayette resident, and fellow student at Purdue (I'm a grad student here, did my undergrad here, too): I did what you propose to do. I will give you my insight. It is really expensive. Moving out there was expensive, rent was expensive, everything was expensive. I had lived in Seattle for more than a year, worked full-time, took no classes, and still could not get in-state tuition. I see you also intend to stay in school. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The likely reason you are being denied is that when it comes to the FAFSA, you are considered a dependent until you are 24 (my understanding is no ifs, ands, or buts). Yes, West Lafayette (moreso Lafayette) is kind of a hellhole. But compared to a lot of places, it's not too bad. I looked up current undergrad tuition for both. UW = $7692, PU = $7,850. There isn't a $5k difference for in-state. I have been on my own financially since I was 18, but still got screwed by the FAFSA. Just had to tough it out and work while in school, and take out what loans I was allowed. If you almost have in-state tuition, why would you want to start the process over? I really enjoyed living in Seattle, and put off my undergrad for about 5 years. I had a job lined up, everything was great. Then the company downsized. Then came the medical issues. Couldn't get a job for months. I sold myself to research at the UW to make ends meet. Ended up with a lot of debt. If I could do it again, I would have finished my undergrad first. I planned on finishing school in Washington, but couldn't afford it, and had to work all the time to make ends meet anyway. I was just able to finally dig myself out of debt 3 years ago, and this was 10 years after the fact. You say that there are other issues. Is it just being stuck in a mostly hick town? Boredom? Itching for excitement? The CS dept. here is pretty good. I would finish your degree and then make the move. Short term "misery", long-term gain. But, this is just my opinion. You can email me if you like.
bolognius maximus
You can always go back to school, really.
kathrineg
Another Purdue CS student here. (hi!) +1 to everything bolognius maximus said. Check your mefimail for some more specific advice.
mezamashii
meet a financial aid counselor at your school, talk to them about your fafsa issues - you are definitely not the first one to be unfairly denied. I just wanted to chime in and say that the government has made it much more difficult to file as an independent if you're under 25. This might differ by school, but at mine (I graduated in 2006), the only way you could file as an independent student was if you were married, an orphan, or a ward of the court. This wasn't the case in 1998, when my sister was in college at a different school--she just had to fill out some paper work.
PhoBWanKenobi
Hiring bonus.
semp
I can't speak for everybody here, but in my world a bonus is for work completed, not "it's yours unless you quit." The exception would be if it were a hiring bonus. Which one was it?
contessa
The debt part was from a bonus. Quitting before my contract is up with them means I have to repay the bonus. I'm pretty sure that's standard for how most bonuses with competitive companies such as this one work. I don't have to entirely, it is pro-rated to my time I've been with them, but that's still quite a bit I'd have to repay.
semp
My intentions are to stay in school no matter what, and I suppose to a point I am running. But if something is making me miserable, shouldn't I leave? And my boyfriend's wishes matter to a point. As he's my only consistent form of support and pretty much my only family it would be hard to leave. At the same time, I have to do what's best for me, knowing that after a few years of long-distance we would be together again.
semp
The second company I have a contract with. Quitting that job would result in me paying back a years worth of rent, which I can hardly afford. This arrangement sounds a bit like debt peonage to me. Can you describe it a bit more so I can unclench my "human trafficking OMGWTF!!1!" instincts? http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/slavetrade.htmon the Abolition of Slavery, the Slave Trade, and Institutions and Practices Similar to Slavery Section I, Article I: (a) Debt bondage, that is to say, the status or condition arising from a pledge by a debtor of his personal services or of those of a person under his control as security for a debt, if the value of those services as reasonably assessed is not applied towards the liquidation of the debt or the length and nature of those services are not respectively limited and defined
Pollomacho
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