Which bicycle (for a novice) would you recommend?
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Which bicycle (for a novice) would you recommend? Comparison between four bicycles Final followup from my earlier post: http://ask.metafilter.com/168736/Firsttime-rider-seeks-bicycle-advice-What-should-I-get-From-where-in-Melbourne-Australia-Rough-cost I've finally had some time to sit down and review my options, and have narrowed the selection down to four different bikes (all roughly similar cost during sales): - Raleigh Airlite 400 http://www.wiggle.co.uk/au/raleigh-airlite-400-2010/ - Olmo Impact Veloce http://www.wiggle.co.uk/au/olmo-impact-veloce-2010 - Kona Jake 2011 http://www.wiggle.co.uk/au/kona-jake-2011/ - Giant TCX 2 2011 http://www.wiggle.co.uk/au/giant-tcx-2-2011/ I know the Jake got a good plug in my last question, but just wondering how the lot stack up? Jake and the TCX are the two cyclocross bikes, which I guess makes them a bit sturdier? Any recommendations or personal experiences would be very helpful. Your help is much appreciated & many thanks from a very excited rider to be!
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Alright. Changing my tune then. The negatives of the cyclocross bikes are weight (more than a kg, though it's hard to tell for sure, because Giant refuse to specify weights), rolling resistance from the fatter tyres, maybe a bit of wrist strain from alloy forks, and in the case of the Giant, a fairly ugly looking mix of bottom end components. The Kona also has a Sora triple crank, and they can be a bit tricky with respect to chain rub against the rings. But if you're not taking it onto dirt with any regularity, there's no reason to put up with any of that. So I'd be going for the Raleigh or the Olmo. The Olmo appears to be the lightest, but Campagnolo Veloce gear is not the greatest (anti-Campagnolo personal prejudice admitted). That said, all of the components on the Olmo are Veloce, so they are all designed and manufactured to work together. That's not the case with the Raleigh - they've skimped on the crank and the brakes. It's not likely that will be a problem, but it is possible. So if the you buy the Raleigh, I'd consider swapping out the crank and the brakes for 105 components either immediately, or over time. That guarantees you that everything will mesh and you'd also then have a bike that you could resell as "full 105 group". It'll hold value a bit better.
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Get the Raleigh. It'll be fine on LIMITED dirt trails (ie less than 100 m at a time), and will be much easier to ride those distances on. The energy lost through a CX bike's semi-knobby tires on asphalt would make it much more of a chore, especially for a novice. On a real road bike, it'll fly by. If you find yourself yearning for trails, get a cheap used hardtail mountain bike. A decent one is easier to find than a cheap used road bike.
supercres
Oh man, fuck that bike store. Unless things are waaay more expensive in Australia, an entry-level road bike should not cost you that much. My recent search was for women's specific frame road bikes and ~$650 usd was the cheapest in most of the brands I looked at. My parents and boyfriend all have that they like. It's basically a road frame with flat handle bars for a more comfortable ride. They are cheaper than road or cx bikes. According to the http://www.trekbikes.com/au/en/bikes/bike_path/#fx website, they start at $400. I used to take my boyfriend's FX on group rides with mostly road bikes and while it was a bit more work (upright position=more wind resistance), I could still keep up with them.
mandymanwasregistered
Just want to say: a heartfelt and big thank you to everyone. I managed to pick up a used road bike in excellent condition, with a carbon frame, and full 105 gearset, for a decent price. I've learnt a hell of a lot this weekend - and I've got a sneaking suspicion that this is about to become an addiction of sorts. Very exciting!
mrme
The Raleigh Airlite 400 has a Shimano 105 drivetrain/components compared to a tiagra (or tiagra/sora) mix for the others. That is a definite step up in quality and it's the cheapest in price to boot.
tallus
I see from your previous question that you plan to ride on gravel trails, which is why people suggested a cyclecross bike. You don't want to ride a road bike on gravel for any distance, but it'll be just fine on a cyclecross with the right tires.
chrchr
Is here any reason you're not considering a cheap, steel mountain bike beater?
EsotericAlgorithm
As chrchr says, if you plan to use this on gravel, you want something sturdy and with considerably fatter tyres than 25s. A carbon fork probably isn't your best bet on the rough stuff either. It'll get chipped, and then it'll crack. Which is a pity, because the parts on the Raleigh are distinctly better than the other three. That said, the Tiagra gear on the Kona is only one step down from the Raleigh's 105 kit, and should see you fine. Go the Kona!
Ahab
@Ahab & @chrchr The main attraction of the cyclecross was that it kept my options the widest open! I guess this is the point where I have to decide what my ambitions are - the vast vast majority of use will be on sealed roads and paths. I'm not really sure if I'll take up riding on dirt trails (and less likely, gravel) - just didn't want to close any doors. I figured a cyclecross would be the best compromise, but the problem is that I'm not really sure exactly what I'm giving up for that. @EA: Mostly because I have little idea about all things cycle related - I'm all ears though - my main use will be riding on sealed paths/roads (30-40km at a time), occassional fun-race, and possibly (see above ;) very light use on dirt tracks.
mrme
I'd ride them all and go with my gut, but since you're asking us again, I'll go with the Jake. The biggest thing you give up is weight, but in reality, the difference between these bikes isn't all that much. You also give up slightly nicer components, but I personally can't tell the difference between Tiagra and 105. I'd get the Jake and some commuter tires like the Continental Contact in 28mm. I ride these tires on a cross bike when I don't need knobs and it's a joy!
advicepig
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