How do I make a beautiful pre-baked pie crust?
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Why is my pie crust melting?! This is so aggravating. I am trying to pre-bake a pie crust for pumpkin pie, pecan pie, whatever. I follow the directions to the tee - the crust is in the freezer for 30 minutes, so it is rock hard when I take it out of the freezer and stick it in the 425 degree oven. I've used pie weights (beans), and I haven't used pie weights, and I still get the same result. The nice crimped edge sluffs down the side of the pie pan and I end up with this bubbling blob of dough in the base of the pie plate. I have tried all butter and butter/shortening recipes. So the dough is cold and weighted, and it still melts. What am I doing wrong here? What is the trick to getting a beautiful pre-baked crust?
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Answer:
I have never used a non-stick pie pan, always Pyrex. Further, I have been baking pies for 20 years, and after years of pretty good but nothing spectacular crusts, I have seen the light. Behold, the Foolproof Pie Crust from Cooks Illustrated. The key ingredient is vodka, which makes your dough much easier to work with (I initially thought it so wet as to be 'gloppy') but evaporates off during cooking. Best. Pie. Crust. Ever. Vodka is essential to the texture of the crust and imparts no flavorâdo not substitute. This dough will be moister and more supple than most standard pie doughs and will require more flour to roll out (up to 1/4 cup). Ingredients 2 1/2 cups unbleached all-purpose flour (12 1/2 ounces) 1 teaspoon table salt 2 tablespoons sugar 12 tablespoons cold unsalted butter (1 1/2 sticks), cut into 1/4-inch slices 1/2 cup chilled solid vegetable shortening , cut into 4 pieces 1/4 cup vodka , cold 1/4 cup cold water Instructions 1. Process 1 1/2 cups flour, salt, and sugar in food processor until combined, about 2 one-second pulses. Add butter and shortening and process until homogenous dough just starts to collect in uneven clumps, about 15 seconds (dough will resemble cottage cheese curds and there should be no uncoated flour). Scrape bowl with rubber spatula and redistribute dough evenly around processor blade. Add remaining cup flour and pulse until mixture is evenly distributed around bowl and mass of dough has been broken up, 4 to 6 quick pulses. Empty mixture into medium bowl. 2. Sprinkle vodka and water over mixture. With rubber spatula, use folding motion to mix, pressing down on dough until dough is slightly tacky and sticks together. Divide dough into two even balls and flatten each into 4-inch disk. Wrap each in plastic wrap and refrigerate at least 45 minutes or up to 2 days. I made this in my Kitchenaid Mixer using the paddle attachment rather than a food processor. Also, I used Plugra, European butter that has a slightly higher fat content than American butter. Roll chilled dough straight out of the fridge between two sheets of well-floured (~1/4c) parchment. I refrigerated the dough between each step. Rolled it out, fridge 15 minutes, draped in pie plate, fridge, crimp edges, fridge. Put plate on rimmed baking sheet, lined bottom of dough with foil weighted with pennies, baked at 400C for 15 minutes, remove foil/pennies, and bake an additional 5-10 minutes until golden brown and crisp. Amazing.
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I fought this myself yesterday, and finally won by doing the weights (lentils, in my case), and then nestling a second pie plate inside the beans. I have no idea why this happens, and so consistently, but I really do feel your pain. As does the fabulous woman behind smitten kitchen, who chronicled her recent triumph over the problem http://smittenkitchen.com/2008/11/the-great-unshrinkable-sweet-tart-shell/. It's a tart shell recipe, rather than a pie crust, but it should be fine as a pie crust. Though, no, I've not tried it myself.
amelioration
This can happen if the dough is overprocessed, so that rather than little pockets of flour-coated butter flecking the dough you've got a homogenous flour/butter paste. The butter melts too fast and there's no flour/water dough structure to hold it up. Are you using a food processor? If so, make sure not to overprocess - the flour/butter mixture should range from pea-size butter lumps to grains like coarse cornmeal, depending on the texture you want. There should be no unincorporated flour. Or if you cut in the butter by hand, make sure the butter never warms up - to the point of putting the half-worked mixture in the fridge from time to time to cool it down. It can also happen sometimes if your dough is too wet overall - always add just enough (cold!) water to make the flour/butter mix barely hold together. The amount will differ depending on the humidity that day. If you've added all the water and it still seem dry, let the dough rest for a little while and see if it's more workable then, rather than adding more water straightaway. Most finished doughs should feel like play doh, dry to the touch.
peachfuzz
Just a note, all the pumpkin pies I've ever baked were baked in a raw pie shell, so you shouldn't have this problem with those.
rikschell
My process, which never fails, uses the Joy of Cooking recipe. I use half frozen butter, half chilled shortening for the fats. I do all the mixing by hand. I refrigerate before rolling out, freeze after it's in the pan. It goes straight from freezer to oven, and I use either beans or glass marbles as weights. I have a million pie plates of various materials; I don't think that's your problem. I'm going to agree with the posters above that say you're either doing too good of a job combining your fat and flour, or using too much water, and I'm banking on the former. It should look rough, kind of sandy, not at all smooth before you add the water. You should see some bigger, pea-sized chunks of flour-coated fat. Try using the recipe that worked best, but do it by hand, cutting in the fat with two knives, or a pastry cutter if you have one. Do the butter first, then the shortening, if you use a combination, because the shortening needs less coaxing.
donnagirl
what directions are you using? it's generally a good idea to let pie crust dough sit around for awhile (15 mins) at room temperature before putting it in a hot oven - keep it wrapped in plastic or covered, tho, so you don't lose to much moisture
jammy
Are you putting a store-bought crust from a box into your own nonstick pan? Perhaps try something that isn't nonstick. Have you calibrated your oven temperature? Do you have an electric oven with poor heat cycling? I think I recall Dorie Greenspan suggesting preheating to a higher temperature (say 450) and turning it down once you put the shell in the oven--that way the first 10 minutes of your bake time won't be at a low point in the heat cycle.
bcwinters
Wow, weird, don't know how I missed that you were making your own from scratch. My reading skills aren't up to par today. So anyway ignore my first sentence, but do still think about the nonstick pan issue.
bcwinters
Try not putting your dough in the freezer before you bake it. I roll mine out and put it in the pie plate right before going in the oven and don't have any problems. Also, what's your flour:butter ratio? I make my pie crusts with 1.5c flour and 1.5 sticks of butter.
mkultra
Here is how my wife does it. She has baked for many years. She does not know about putting a pastry shell in the freezer. She makes from scratch only and the pastry dough is at room temperature. She puts the crust in the pie pan and takes a dinner fork and perforates the crust all over the bottom and the sides. The punctures are close together. She bakes in a preheated oven at 450º for 12 to 15 minutes. The time is based upon when the crust is golden brown. Never a failure. Crust is tasty and flaky.
JayRwv
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