Camera into my computer?

Camera and computer incompatibilities

  • My camera died and inexplicably killed my computer in the process. Upfront, I know I am a complete idiot, I'm just stating the obvious so no one else has to. I am on vacation, and failed (mistake number one) to bring my camera (Samsung Digimax i5) charger with me. I didn't think I would need it for a four day weekend. Last night as I was uploading pictures from the camera to my laptop (hp pavilion, running XP), the battery on the camera died. My son, failing to realize that the camera had died, logged out of the system and shut the lid. Later on, when I tried to boot up, I got the queerest message, which was even spelled poorly, telling me that my computer was dealing with any number of unintelligible issues, and did I want to start up in safe mode? I did just that, and I don't remember when exactly I actually unplugged the camera from the computer. In my haste and fear, I may have unplugged it while the computer was trying to power up. My camera's battery is completely dead, and I have been all over Madison, WI this afternoon looking for a replacement charger (to no avail), so that I can charge the camera, reconnect it to the computer, and maybe the computer will make nice nice with the camera and restart beautifully and life will be good again. As it stands right now, I have a dead camera, and I can only get my computer to start in safe mode. I have tried a system restore twice, neither of which was successful. Please, hive mind, hope me!

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    First, I don't think the camera 'killed' the computer. The poor spelling sounds odd, though- I'd almost knee-jerk and say virus, simply because MS isn't going to have too many spelling errors in its core system (way too much testing and localization work to allow a lot of blaring typos through). However, it's possible that it's the camera driver/software that's crashing, and that is what is sending you messages that are so poorly spelled. Suggestions: 1) Tell us the messages!!!! Also tell us when they are happening, how far in the boot process they happen (do you even get to the login screen, or the Windows XP splash screen, etc...) . I don't think even computer gurus can do much with "the queerest message" as a troubleshooting technique. :) 2) The whole point of safe mode is to load up without most drivers or software, etc. The likelihood then is that something is loading at boot that's crashing your computer. If it boots in safe mode, the system core is pretty much fine, and it's something additional that's breaking. So, safe mode gives you a chance to find out what, and do something about this! Some basic troubleshooting steps: Go into safe mode, go to start -> run and type 'msconfig'. In the Configuration applet, choose "Diagnostic mode", and then click OK- you should be prompted to restart. This will load up your system with only the basic drivers and software, similar to safe mode. If this works, which it probably will, then you know that something loading on startup, likely a 3rd party driver or software, is crashing your computer. So... here's how you find out what that is: 1) After booting up (hopefully fine) in diagnostic mode, go back into msconfig, and choose "Selective Startup" instead of diagnostic. Next, go to the Services tab, check the box "Hide Microsoft services", and de-select all the remaining boxes. Go ahead, click OK, reboot. This will tell you if some service is breaking your bootup. 2) If you do boot up okay, it's one of those (and you can probably jump ahead and see if one of those services is related to your camera's software set!). Simply find which one via trial and error, enabling one or a few at a time till the problem reproduces. If you don't boot up okay, then it's not these services. Go back to the Services tab and re-enable all the ones that you disabled in step 1, and then continue to step 3. 3) Now, go to the startup tab, and choose "Disable all". This will uncheck all these startup items, many of which are 3rd-party software that start up and create things like system tray icons, etc. Most of them you probably don't need anyway, but for now disable all of them. 4) Reboot- does the problem reproduce? Yes? No? If you're still having problems, I'd be surprised. If the problems go away with these startup items disabled, the services enabled, and your system booting okay, then the problem is in one or more of these set of startup software (again, probably related to the camera or something). 5) Try selectively re-enabling a few at a time, until you find the one breaking things (or leave them all disabled- you probably will find your computer runs faster without them :) ).

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You could try going into control panel>add/remove program, and removing the camera software.

StickyCarpet

I thought of that, StickyCarpet, but would that in any way be harmful to the pictures that I have currently on my camera that didn't get downloaded onto the computer? I really don't want to lose them. I got the very best picture EVER of my husband, son and me. We were all smiling nicely, with our eyes open, and my son wasn't making a face. It is such a rarity, it would be a shame to lose it.... What if I just wait until I get home, charge my camera, then plug it into my computer whilst in safe mode? Could that work?

msali

Seems unlikely that you would have lost the pix on the camera, why not recharge and load on to some other computer before experimenting with the sick computer.

StickyCarpet

Did you try to take the card out of the camera and pop it into something else to see if the pictures are still there?

k8t

What happens if you try to boot into regular non-safe mode?

delmoi

Most pharmacies/stores have booths that you can put a variety of camera cards in.

k8t

Removing the software should have no effect on the pictures on the camera. You don't need to use the Samsung software, or even the camera itself, to get the pictures. They should be (unless you recorded on the built-in memory) on an SD/MMC card. You can, and I strongly recommend that you do, buy an external reader that connects to your computer via a USB port. This way you don't drain the camera's battery when you're downloading the pictures off of it--you simply pop the card out of the camera, put it in the reader, download the pictures using your computer's power, and then put the card back in the camera. There are lots of software products that will get the pictures off the card. The best, easiest-to-use, free software I've found that runs on XP is http://picasa.google.com/ from Google. It will download the pictures, and let you do all sorts of cool things with them, probably better than the Samsung software did. And it won't lock up your computer. At least, it's never locked up mine.

cerebus19

Slight derail... propriotary batteries suck. So far I have been lucky enough to find a couple of digital cameras that still use AA batteries. I don't know about the rest of you but I plan to keep a camera longer than the typical life of a propriotary rechargeable battery that won't be available in a year or two. OTOH you may have blown the USB bus on the computer. That's why safe mode works...not loading any USB drivers.

Gungho

Thanks for all of your great suggestions thus far. I am currently on my husband's computer, and he has forbidden me from wasting any more of our vacation time trying to fix this problem, but I thought I would at least explain a bit further. StickyCarpet: I think that I am going to load the pictures to a healthy computer before I do anything else. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I can't do that until I get home, because the camera battery is completely officially and most definitely dead. I was unable to find a Samsung charger here in Madison. K8t: unfortunately, there is no card to pop out of a Samsung digimax to find out whether or not the pictures are intact. I use a Samsung specific cord to interface between the camera and the computer. Delmoi: if I try to boot in non-safe mode, I will get the Windows XP boot screen, but then the screen will go blank, and the computer appears to be powering up, but nothing happens - blank screen. Hincandenza: thank you for all of your ideas! I wish I could tell you the messages that the computer gave me, but it was seriously that the WHOLE SCREEN filled with nonsensical things. It spelled Windows as Wandows, and partition as partitaon. It was all quite weird, and I would have suspected a virus as well, if my problems hadn't coincided directly with removing the camera connection cord from the laptop at the same time. Thanks to everyone for all their help. On preview: Gungho, if I blew out my USB bus, how do I go about rectifying that?

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