Could I be getting sued twice for downloading music?

Has anyone ever been sued for downloading music?

  • Has anyone ever been sued for downloading music? It seems to me that I keep hearing about people being sued for illegally downloading music, but it seems like it always turns out that they are actually being sued for making music files available for others to download because they are sharing them on a P2P network. Is it just that people are either sloppy with language or don't understand the difference between downloading and sharing, or has someone actually been gone after for downloading?

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    Very little of this is specifically codified in the law: you go by inference and actual court cases. In the US and most of the world it is absolutely illegal to download copyrighted content, most likely whether or not you own the source material. Attempts to commercially serve people digital copies of music they owned CD copies of from a centralized database were legally challenged and failed - but I don't believe it's ever been legally addressed from the consumer's side of the equation. Courts upheld people's rights to format-shift their CDs to MP3 format. I don't believe that the "right" to make "backup" copies of CDs has ever been tested in court - but that is only accessing data from the original, purchased copy. I don't believe there has ever been a legal opinion on whether you are legally required to eliminate format-shifted or backed-up copies if you sell the original. When you download a digital copy of anything copyrighted you make a copy of that intellectual property in direct violation of the copyright holder's exclusive right to reproduce that content. It's absolutely illegal if you don't own the material and could quite possibly be found illegal even if you do. I think there are several things going on with the court cases you generally hear about. The first is, there is more money in people who make things available, because they are responsible for every copy of a track that gets downloaded. You can of course illegally download a lot of music, but the numbers are never going to add up like they will if you make a popular track available on a heavily-used file sharing network. Second, lawsuits are going to favor heavy users of file sharing networks and these people are likely to both upload and download. Finally, relatively few cases go anywhere in court. They either get settled or, when people mount a credible legal challenge, they get dropped so that the highly dubious legal tactics that are getting used to mass-sue people are not subjected to legal scrutiny or opinion. The high-profile cases are generally going to be the ones where the rights holders feel they have the broadest and most solid case - a person who is both distributing and consuming illegal duplications of copyrighted material is the better target.

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Is it just that people are either sloppy with language or don't understand the difference between downloading and sharing, or has someone actually been gone after for downloading? It's a misperception, but it's not sloppy. It's deliberately cultivated by the record companies in order to confuse people and scare scare them away from downloading

delmoi

IAAL and I am currently defending a number of these people. The lawsuits claim that they are downloading *and* sharing them on p2p networks. The record industry finds these defendants on p2p networks, and I've not yet seen a case where someone was sued for downloading unless they were discovered sharing as well. The way the investigations currently work, it appears to me that there is no way to discover those merely downloading without sharing. I don't have time to go into a lot of detail here, but if you're interested in learning more please contact me directly.

mikewas

People are sued for downloading -- only -- *all* the time. I work at a university, and I can name personally 5 students who have had to settle with the RIAA for downloading only. They weren't sued, but they were threatened with lawsuits. I'm sure you are mistaken.

fourcheesemac

To me it sounds like the real question is "If I only download music and do not make it available, what are my chances of getting sued?" The short and simple answer is: right now in the U.S. you are not 100% safe from legal action if you download copyrighted works without the copyright holder's consent. We could speculate all day long on law, risk and so on, bottom line is if 0.01% risk of dealing with RIAA lawyers is too much for you, then don't do it. I'm not asserting this based on any law or legal precedent, I'm saying that if an RIAA lawyer wants to go after you and drag you through the mud financially -- even if they are in the wrong -- they can and have done it. They are not above mindlessly shoveling money into furnace of their intellectual property protection machine. I do agree with others noting that downloading alone is not illegal, and the RIAA definitely wants everyone to believe that all media activity done digitally is illegal. Unless of course you are using a DRM'd to uselessness RIAA approved product for digital media use. Just keep in mind that if they want to pick a fight you will have to pay up or gamble that the outcome is ruled in your favor. (http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/07/judge-awards-68000-in-attorneys-fees.html, http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/08/riaa-fails-to-pay-attorneys-fee-award.html http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/09/riaa-sends-check-in-capitol-v-foster.html http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/09/riaa-pays-only-part-of-interest-in.html http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2007/09/riaa-pays-additonal-interest-in-capitol.html.)

Stilus

Sorry. That sentence should have read: Even if you are not seeding a new file for other users, you are still uploading.

MasterShake

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/riaa-believes-m.html Despite recent claims to the contrary.

grouse

The court case is actually about him sharing, the CD question only comes up in passing. (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/recording-indus.html)

muteh

Just read http://instapundit.com/archives2/013506.php from Instapundit. The man is being sued by the RIAA for copying music from his own CD to his own computer. Not for sharing, not for downloading. Idiot luddite record execs will not stop until they have completely destroyed the industry (as they know it).

trinity8-director

Here's an interesting interpretation of http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/dltr/articles/2001dltr0018.html, especially when it comes to legal implications of digital media. The author's conclusion here is that digital phonorecords (mp3's etc) are not really covered under the Right of First Sale. Although if you are the legal owner of the media, I'm sue you can use the Fair Use defense for personal copies made.

samsara

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