Is there anything I can do at home for constany runny nose?

Sick kitty needs nose to work again.

  • Tips for getting a sick pussycat on a feeding tube to eat by mouth again (and a cautionary tale)? Lots of information below before I get to the question, because this situation took us terribly by surprise and I hope anyone in a similar situation will see the warning signs we missed. It could save your kitty's life. In late December, our cat Jason got a cortisone shot for his feline acne. He soon developed the sniffles, and passed whatever he picked up at the vet to the other two indoor cats. The vet denied that anything viral or bacterial could have been picked up at the office, but did admit that cortisone might have lowered Jason's immunity, causing a flare up of something he already was carrying. If that's so, it's unfortunate he didn't suggest quarentining Jason when we brought him home to make sure he stayed healthy. The vet said to keep an eye on the cats and bring them in a few days if they seemed to be getting worse. For the moment they seemed to just have bad colds, though Jason was almost over his. A couple days later, we came home in the evening to find the smallest cat, 11-year-old Talullah, hunkered down on the kitchen floor panting. Her nose was caked with hard snot and her white chin was dark with stuff that had run down her face. We cleaned her nostrils out with wet Q-Tips, squirted some water in her mouth and warmed her up, and she seemed to perk up a little. My husband wrapped her in a towel and let her sleep on his chest, and we planned to take her to the vet in the morning. Before dawn he got up to give her more water, and she gasped and died. So in the morning it was Evel, the 16-year-old, who was rushed to the vet, along with his sister's body. The vet was shocked Talullah had become so sick so fast. Evel was immediately put on a drip with antibiotics, and after a few days the vet wanted to put him under and insert a feeding tube. He was extremely listless and congested, and I was very concerned he would not survive anesthesia. I asked if I could try to feed him by syringe rather than put him under, and I was able to get a couple of small syringes of semi-liquid A/D food into him by working very slowly. The next day he had more energy, but no one else had been able to feed him orally. Told that if he did not eat soon he would die, we agreed to having the feeding tube inserted, and he took the surgery well. The vet failed to diagnose the illness, and the antibiotics given did not seem to help. He showed an elevated white count that remained constant after more than a week of antibiotics. He became anemic, which the vet thought was due to too much drip hydration, and that was scaled back. Herpes was suggested as a possibility, as was Calicivirus. After talking with a friend whose cat had showed similar symptons and survived, I asked about it perhaps being Feline Chlamydia and the efficacy of trying Zithromax as a one-dose treatment, but the vet blew the suggestion off. Since Evel seemed to be getting better, I didn't press the matter. After nine days in critical condition Evel began showing signs of his personality and energy returning, and after twelve days we brought him home with the tube still in his esophogus. The vet said he could be tube fed for a month or more without problems, but that the aim is to transition him back to oral eating. After two days home, he seems to be feeling reasonably well, but shows no interest in eating or drinking and spends most of his time lying in the sun. Tube feeding is quite difficult--the tube frequently gets clogged and requires great hand-strength to flush a little water in and then pull back to loosen and suck up the stuck food. With me holding Evel and my husband working the syringe it can be done, but it's messy and frustrating and hard on the cat. The sooner he starts eating, the better! Here is our current care schedule: 3 times a day: 1) flush each nostril with 6cc saline solution 2) a little later, attempt to get him to eat moist canned salmon 3) when he refuses, flush 2-3 60cc tubes of watery, hand-blended A/D prescription diet food through his feeding tube, with frequent stops to unclog the tube, flushing it with water and papaya juice to break up clogs morning and night: .9cc Clavamox antiobiotic by mouth, powder contents of lysine pill included in tube feeding, 1/4 tube each tincture of Osha and Goldenseal/Echinacea mixed with water in his feeding tube (recommended by herbalist friend to kickstart his immunity) Although he is much less snotty than he was (there's some nostril caking in the mornings, but the saline flush seems to go right up into his sinuses, and he doesn't sneeze or blow much mucus out at all afterwards) and his eyes are only a little runny, Evel shows no interest in the salmon. He sometimes seems to be trying to smell it, sniffing and moving his face around the bowl, but there's none of the usual reaction to a fishy treat and he won't taste it. I'm wondering if there are any tricks to get him smelling and eating again. Are there better foods to be trying? Should the food be heated? Is there anything beyond the saline flush that can be done to help the nose to regain its function? Maybe it's just a matter of time and shaking off this illness, whatever it is, but any suggestions from people who have had similar experiences with their cats would be most welcome. Evel's a world class pussycat, very personable, affectionate and tough. We've got high hopes he'll make it through this tough time, and he welcomes your prayers, good wishes and bright ideas.

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    My sympathies for your kitties. One of our cats was in very bad shape several years ago (right around when the 9/11 attacks happened here in NYC, which was also right when I lost my job... good times). Her illness was different from what's afflicted your cats, but she too had a feeding tube inserted. She was suffering from hepatic lipidosis, or fatty liver in plain English. This may have been brought on when she stopped eating due to stress (our younger cat had just been spayed, and was wearing one of those huge lampshades for a while; her appearance and smell greatly upset the older cat). After a few days in the hospital, we brought her home, and I fed her three times a day thru the tube. What I did was close the door of the room she was in (to keep her from bolting, but also to help her feel more secure), hold her down on a towel, and wrap the towel around her tightly, with only her head sticking out. Then I'd hold her between my knees, kneeling over her, and slowly put the food in thru the tube. I prepared the syringle full of food in advance. It's not fun for you or the cat, but it does get a little easier, as you both get used to it. After help from my wife for the first couple of days, I was soon doing it by myself. In Emily's case, her appetite for regular food did eventually come back, but it took about two weeks, maybe a bit longer. Good luck.

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That was very upsetting to see, and didn't inspire much confidence in the vet's concepts of hygiene and quarantine I understand why it was upsetting, but it shouldn't cause any concern about hygiene and quarantine - almost all vet clinics have in-house laundry facilities or send their laundry out. Everything gets washed in hot water between uses, I don't know a single vet clinic that reuses dirty towels. Most clinics don't do minor procedures like teeth cleaning (and other minor procedures like minor suturing jobs, sometimes kitten neuters, etc.) in the OR, they do it in the "treatment area" which is usually in a central part of the clinic. Again, I have never been in the back of a vet clinic which DIDN'T have a treatment area which also had hospitalized animals in it. This is the norm for vet clinics, the actual OR, where surgeries are performed, is normally in a separate room without any animals but the one being operated on. I'm glad to hear Evel is eating! You're obviously doing a great job, he's a lucky kitty.

biscotti

P.S. We warmed the baby food to a little above body temp in a warm water bath. I didn't think the beef was all that smelly, but I don't have a great sense of smell. Will try a different variety next feeding, maybe there is another he will like more.

Scram

Report from the easiest tube feeding yet: we have been using 2-3 60cc tubes filled with liquified, blended A/D, with a lot of clogging and associated delay. This time we underfilled the syringes, 30-45cc each, which allowed much better leverage and no need to stop midway for my husband to adjust his grip. The feeding went very quick, no clogs, and Evel was fed and back in his sunny spot within 5 minutes.

Scram

I'm glad you're having some success. Re: Anti-inflammatories (usually in my experience prednisone) -- it will make him very thirsty, if he is prescribed them. Our vet is pretty old skool and has treated our kids with prednisone before with great results -- basically, if there is inflammation, you make it go away and treat what is left. I hope Evel feels better soon.

Medieval Maven

Scram and Evel, it's good to read you are having some success. Evel get well soon.

Arqa

Checking back in to see how he's doing - I'm glad you guys are doing better and have a new vet. A vet you can build up a good ongoing relationship with is priceless. Keep us updated!

Stacey

Thanks for checking in. Evel is in good spirits today, most of which he spent on my lap. He's so patient with all the poking and fuss. I'm very proud of him. I got him to take about 9ML of chicken baby food at lunch via syringe, then switched to the tube. For dinner we just went straight to the tube, since everyone is tired. Feeding is pretty fast with the half full syringes, though they did clog a couple of times. We're making the food wetter to help with flow, but this has introduced more air into the tube, and we've heard some gurgling from it and burps from the kitty. Reported this to the vet who said it shouldn't be a problem. We picked up a humidifier and are running it in Evel's room (he's quarantined from Jason). We have an appointment with a feline http://local.yahoo.com/details;_ylt=Av3Z_13ZDiqgVU6I7qRHBpugNcIF?id=20421067 in Hollywood on Tuesday night who our friends say is wonderful, and will ask him to look over Evel's charts, evaluate his condition and advise us on what he thinks will get him back to health.

Scram

This is a great morning: Evel ate a couple of tablespoons of chicken baby food on his own. We have decided that if he'll eat the whole jar by noon he doesn't have to be tubed this morning. We also signed up for pet insurance for both he and Jason, the https://www.petcareinsurance.com indoor cat plan. This is something we've been debating for a while, but $250/year seems a good investment in peace of mind for now. Evel's care has been over $3000 so far, and we can't afford another hit like this. Of course they won't cover aftercare for the current situation. Now that Evel is rallying, I have been thinking about something that was so disturbing that I kind of blocked it out last week. The distinctively striped towel that his sister's body was brought wrapped in showed up in Evel's cage at one point during his care. Earlier, my husband saw it in a stack of towels in the kennel/operating room and asked an assistant to move it so he wouldn't have to look at it. That was very upsetting to see, and didn't inspire much confidence in the vet's concepts of hygiene and quarantine. I was also disturbed that Evel's cage, and those of other sick animals, were directly in the line of sight of the table where animals were being operated on. One time while I was there spending time with Evel, a dog was unconscious on the table having its teeth cleaned, and I thought it must frighten the other animals to see, hear and smell dogs and cats whimpering, bleeding, soiling themselves and being knocked out. (At that point Evel was very depressed, facing away from the opening in his cage and leaning his nose against the cold steel.) Do all vets keep conscious animals caged in the OR?

Scram

Evel sounds like he is doing better! Keep up the good work.

JujuB

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