How do i source wikipedia in a bibliography?

What does Jimmy Wales think when a university professor discourages students from citing Wikipedia as a primary or secondary source?

  • I have had a few professors tell me not to use Wikipedia. How would you respond why Wikipedia is a viable source? I think Wikipedia has very accurate information. I never understood why people say not to use it. What do you think Jimmy?

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    What I think depends on the details of what the Professor is recommending.  If the recommendation is to not use Wikipedia at all, I think that's silly and naive advice - all students use Wikipedia a lot! But if the Professor has a more nuanced view that Wikipedia should not be cited "as a source" by university students then I agree completely!  I think the same thing about citing Britannica or any other encyclopedia.  Citing an encyclopedia for an academic paper at the University level is not appropriate - you aren't 12 years old any more, it's time to step up your game and do research in original sources. So the real question is: what is the right way for University students to use Wikipedia?  It's great for getting yourself oriented on a topic.  It is important that students understand our strengths and weaknesses.  If we say "the neutrality of this article has been disputed" or "this section does not cite any sources" - believe us!  Dig deeper! Once you've read a few relevant Wikipedia entries on a topic, you should be well armed to start digging in to primary materials.

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Wikipedia is a GREAT source or I suppose secondary source. I have written entire research papers using almost nothing but wikipedia as my source, how you ask? The bottom of any good wikipedia topic will include dozens of cited articles, papers, etc. from across the web.  Each of these will have unique ideas rehashing your topic, but you won't have to look for them because wikipedia already has.

David Waedemon

Great answer Jimmy. I find Wikipedia most useful when trying to orient to a new concept or gain context. I then use the additional links at the bottom of most entries to research additional resources.

Mike Kennedy

As someone in the academic community I would agree. Too many of us are looking for shortcuts to the search for "truth" which is what academia suggests is the purpose of academic research. Encyclopedias are a good source for providing general understanding of a subject but often lack the important nuanced differences that are so critical for getting to the truth of a particular subject. Additionally, good researchers use multiple sources to obtain their insights as a means for cross-checking the literature on a particular subject. However, if you are going to bet your paycheck on the answer I would not bet it on an encyclopedia (of any sort) alone. I would rather us what are called refereed journals which are at least scrutinized by other subject matter experts in the the specific topic domain.

Pettis Perry

How about when a history professor lies? And how about when that professor uses those lies to flunk a student? Professorial dishonesty is a disease that robs students of their future and dignity. As I blogged on http://graysharborgop.blogspot.com/2012/05/academic-dishonesty-at-grays-harbor.html A quick check on Wikipedia revealed numerous sources of information to disprove tenured history professor Gary Murrell at Grays Harbor College. Then linking to those sources my son and I prepared a response detailing the lies the professor spouted (on paper).

Randy Dutton

though Wikipedia is undoubtedly the best but the anyone can edit articles which is an obvious advantage becomes a disadvantage in this case questioning the credibility of the source. in ,you will be highly embarrassed if you use Wikipedia as a source. they generally recommend Reuters.

Jaideep Gupta

Hello I am a student and swore by wikipedia when I was in highschool. My first year of study, my history of art teacher was clear: Wikipedia could not be cited as a source. I felt dismayed at the time but you really have to dig deep for your info, avoid wikipedia and I believe you achieve to make up your own thought about something by comparing different articles ..etc. and by this effort and process you retain a lot more from the subject you searched. Also at the bottom of a wikipedia page there is most of the time a long list of related sites and the sources on which the authors of the page based on.

Hélène Frery

Just use Google Scholar tab and search for published and respected sources. There are many instances of Wiki having allowed content from opinionated and ignorant admins that have failed to check the academic or prof. nature of the source. PEOPLE SHOULD TRY HARDER AND SEARCH APPROPRIATELY: NEVER HEARD OF KINDLE? SORRY; I MEAN A LIBRARY ;)

Andrew Moreton

I'm not Jimmy Wales, but I find it ridiculous when professors tell me this. Their argument is: "anyone can edit Wikipedia. It's not a good source of information." I'm a web developer, so I tell them: just as anyone can edit a Wikipedia article, anyone can make a website. And they can put whatever content they want on it. Wikipedia is a GREAT way to find links to good information, and get an overview of a topic.

Anonymous

Wikipedia is actually nothing more than a fluid forum where ultimate editorial control belongs to a corps of administrators, most of whom act without real-world accountability because they don't reveal their real names, locations, and potential conflicts of interest. Encyclopedia Britanica may not even consider interviewing Wikipedia administrators for Encyclopedia Britanica.  Many admins at Wikipedia qualification is that they had been with Wikipedia for over six years.  Most academic institutions in the USA do not consider Wikipedia as an authoritative source.  For example Williams College Library on its web site (http://library.williams.edu/citing/wikipedia.php) has following for using Wikipedia   "Articles in Wikipedia may be well written and insightful, but they are not embedded in the world of scholarly discourse. Without knowing who wrote the article, it is more difficult to judge whether the author's writing is worthy of consideration, or to critique his or her motivations or qualifications. Without a known author, Wikipedia articles cannot be considered authoritative. "   Similarly most academic institutions recommend against Wikipedia.  Wikipedia could be anything but an Encyclopedia, though they try to disguise to be the one.

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