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Should Minnesota Muncipalities (Cities, Counties, Schools, etc) be forced to post their budgets & actual spending & revenue on the internet in laymans terms with no aggregates greater than $100.00?

  • Minnesota Republicans (and Democrats) resist Fiscal TAR  â€¨â€¨â€¨â€¨â€¨â€¨â€¨â€¨â€¨ MN GOP CD6 Chair David FitzSimmons As  if it were not bad enough that members of this writer's Republican Party voted for NDAA, this past weekend rank and file Republicans suffered another betrayal at the hands of our party elite. 
  This  Past Saturday, April 14, 2012, this writer served as a delegate at Minnesota CD6 Republican Convention at the Mounds Views Community Center  in Mounds View, Minnesota. 
 
 As this writer’s regular readers know, for the past 3+ years this writer has submitted articles regarding the failure of various Government institutions to provide citizens with financial information which is supposed to be a matter of public record:
 July 8,2009
Write a letter to your City and County: Where's the money?
http://exm.nr/HNBoUh August 2,2009 
Wright County MN Massive Financial Cover Up Continues 

http://exm.nr/ITBzcY  August 11,2009 Wright County MN Massive Financial Cover up Continues 2 
http://exm.nr/nEgOuE September 8, 2009
  Apology to the Little Old Ladies of Wright County Minnesota 
http://exm.nr/IzEKVg 
  And for these past 3 years, Wright County has not provided, nor have any of my state elected officials been able to force Wright County to give me all of the information this author has requested. Not my State Senator or Representative, Not the State Auditor nor the State Attorney General. 
  Not even the MN IPAD
http://www.ipad.state.mn.us
  The State IPAD agreed that this writer was entitled to the information and said they would prepare a legal brief to that affect. However, this writer would have to hire and attorney and sue the County for the information in Court. [Article Continues below almost universal translator]
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איבערזעצןצוייִדיש|   We  can thank all of our duplicitous elected State officials, Republican and Democrat alike, for providing all municipal entities with a way to avoid giving citizens information which is supposed to be a matter public record. 
  To defeat the duplicity of our elected officials, In 2010 this writer submitted approximately this TAR (Transparency, Accountability and Reform) resolution to his local precinct. It passed but somehow got lost in the process to be added to the Republican Platform.
 “Requiring all Minnesota Municipalities (Cities, Counties,
 Schools, etc) to post their budgets and actual revenues and spending on the internet in layman’s terms with no aggregates over one hundred dollars.” Now,  at this point, this writer asks the reader if they would think that any  elected official working in the best interests of rank and file Americans would have any problem enacting such legislation; especially given that this financial information is supposed to be public record. Keep that answer in mind while you read the rest of this article. 
  In pursuing adoption of this resolution and subsequent legislation, this writer had the 1st Principles of the Founding Fathers in mind:
 The fundamental understanding our US Founding Fathers had in
 drafting our constitution, is People under Natural Law have free will, and are not virtuous by nature. Therefore, governments must be constructed in anticipation of the nature of man. Acting on this knowledge, our Founding Fathers built into our Government and Constitution, various checks and balances. 
 Amongst these checks and balances were transparency and
  accountability. All of our problems today emanate from the slow,  persistent rolling back of the checks and balances, transparency and  accountability our Founding Fathers built into our Government and  Constitution.
 
http://donmashakschallengetouspoliticalparty.blogspot.com/2011/03/first-principles-people-are-equal-under.html 
  Yet somehow, Amy Koch, then the Senate Majority leader and my State Senator would not even try to author or pass this bill. Senator Koch just stopped returning this writer’s calls and emails on this Fiscal 
  TAR. (Nor on my proposals for Judicial TAR) 2 Republicans Legislators flat out told me in confidence that no one in the Minnesota Legislature wants great transparency. 
  This year this writer again had substantially the same resolution passed at the precinct level, then passed forward at the Wright County BPOU level. Finally this writer attended the MN CD6 Convention as a  delegate to.... 
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Minnesota Republicans (and Democrats) resist Fiscal TAR 
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  Those were my thoughts.
 
  â€¨ In Closing:  â€¨ Thank you, my fellow citizens, for taking your valuable time to read and reflect upon  what is written here.  â€¨ 
  â€¨ Please join with me in mutually pledging to each other and our fellow citizens our  lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor to our mutual endeavors of restoring  liberty and economic opportunity to WE THE PEOPLE as our Founding Fathers  envisioned and intended. [Last Paragraph, Declaration of Independence] 
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    No.  It sounds like a waste of resources for them to be required to post that information.   However they should make the purchase orders, invoices, etc., available to the public for inspection, under existing open records laws, where the requester can then scan and post them if he wishes.  Of course, the expense would be on the requester. http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Minnesota_Data_Practices_Act

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People in government are likely ignoring you for two reasons: The biggest part of your complaint isn't true. All levels of government provide their budget, most online. The few small rural towns left without a website will gladly mail you their annual report in accordance with state law. This is true for MN and all states. Simply call the auditors department. For small locales the auditor duties usually fall to the town clerk. Annual reports are written in laymen's terms, just not totally uneducated ones. You have to have some grasp of finance to understand a budget...since that's the purpose of it in the first place. Its a financial document, not a Dick and Jane book. You are of course allowed, as a citizen to purpose things such as you have regarding aggregate numbering. That doesn't mean you have some right to win. You purposed something and it failed, purpose it again, and again if you wish...but you have no right to have your bill passed or supported. Honestly as someone who reads his local and state budgets regularly I have no issue with aggregates and all budgets I have ever seen provide a table for them in the back....your failure to be able to use it or request it is not a compelling reason to change the law. Due to this it doesn't surprise me at all that your idea gets no support. Lastly there is your writing style. Frankly and plainly you sound like a ranting lunatic; the kind of person most people ignore. Your arguments are far too drawn out, expose a lack of working with lower offices first, and generally seem to be taking the legislative process are a personal attack on you. I worry if you don't chill out and focus you will end up with an ulcer.

David Hood

I definitely think governement should have more transparency.  Part of that transparency should be the removal of the jibber jabber and provide lay terms for their financials.  No doubt should they be obligated to share with their "shareholders," their citizens, budget, salaries,and all financial details of how they are spending our money. Unfortunately, we have created such a monster of bureaucracy at all levels of govt that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing...much less the people! Things have to change... But how? Who will lead us to the real change(s) that we need?

Ken Qi

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