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  • I graduated in 2009 with a degree in meteorology and I've been applying to every job that I'm qualified for and still have not landed that entry level position with the National Weather Service. I understand that it is competitive but I have an internship with the NWS and an internship with a TV station working for the Chief Meteorologist there and good grades. I expected it to be hard but with my grades and two internships I really expected to have gotten a job at this point. Is the economy really that bad right now? Is there anything I can do to break into that magical status where the NWS might think I'm worth hiring? I think maybe I'm not "stretching" the truth enough on the questionaire or selling myself short. A television meteorologist is currently working with me to improve my skills in front of a camera, and I've been applying for the private sector jobs so I'm not picky at this point but I really felt I had put together a good deal for employment with the NWS. Does the rough economy have anything at all to do with it? If there are others with degrees in meteorology and haven't been able to get a job, what are you doing now? I work at a restaurant and I don't hate my job but I did go to school for a reason. It's pretty soul-destroying getting notified time and again that you didn't get the job.

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    First, let me clear up some facts, The university that you got your degree in does not matter for an entry level position with the NWS. As long as you have passed all the required classes for that position, your application will be forwarded past the first round of selection. Make sure all of the classes you have taken have met all of educational background needed for that position. A master degree or higher will increase your chances of getting a position with the NWS, but it is not required. There are still people being hired for entry level positions that have only a B.S. Degree. Now, having an internship with the NWS should give a huge advantage over most applicants, even if most of the other applicants that may also have advanced degree. The key is as long as you did well during your internship, you should make it through the early rounds of the selection process. As a matter of fact, a few interns would usually be offered an entry level position at the end of their internship if their work was really impressive to the MIC. So if you had done an outstanding job during your internship, you could have gotten an offer without ever applying and competing for a entry level position. However, having an internship should still have given you a big edge over the others who don’t have any internship experience and even those who have a master degree. The only candidates that you will likely not be able to beat out are those who are military veterans. By federal law, a military veteran who is qualified for a federal position has higher priority to any open position that was not filled by any intern that was offered that entry level position before it was advertised for bidding. The first thing you should do is to look over your application and to make sure it is correctly filled out and make changes if needed. If you make it far enough to be interviewed, you can always asked why you were not slected and what you may do to improve your chances the next time you apply. Next, make sure you advertise what you are looking for to as wide of an audience as you are comfortable with. In some cases it is still who you know is as important as what you know. So, don’t burn any bridges that you may have established in the past. Let both of your internship supervisors and everybody that you had worked with in both internships know that you are now looking for an entry level position. The more people who are in the weather forecasting business know that you are looking for a position, the better chances that you may get help from them. Contact a manager or co-worker that you trust that you have worked with as a intern with the NWS and see if he or she can look over your application to see if they can give any advice on how you might make some improvements on it. You can ask them about the latest employment situations too. Apply for as many positions as possible. The important part is getting in. That will be the most difficult part. The rest you can worry about later. Yes, it is difficult to land a job in the NWS, especially today with the current job market situation. This is especially true with expected cuts in funding from congress to NOAA and the reduction in staff expected in the NWS in the very near future. This, combined with colleges producing too many students that are qualified for so limited positions available in the market will make it difficult for most students to get in to the NWS these days. I don't see much improvements anytime soon. However, there will still be entry level positions that must be filled and that will not stop as long as the government des not completely freeze the hiring. I hope this information will help you decide what, if any, changes you may want to take. Best wishes!

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UALog makes a whole slew of excellent points to which I'll offer the following: --- There's no way or reason to sugar coat it... 1) There's a glut of MET majors looking for jobs with the NWS. Internships don't mean squat unless you were a Student Trainee. If you were a student trainee...then you should have had a job offer before graduation. If there was no job offer...then you failed the audition. 2) There's an even bigger glut of MET majors looking for jobs with the NWS at choice locations. Guam...Brownsville...and Caribou may not be your 1st choice of duty station but they are 'foot in the door' opportunities. 3) MET majors are a dime a dozen. Grades only matter in school. NWS doesn't give a rat's a$$ about who can make the best weather forecast NWS cares about who can tweak the Linux box. 4) "Is the economy really that bad right now? " NWS is not affected by the economy. Each station is staffed for 24/7 operations. 5) "A television meteorologist is currently working with me to improve my skills in front of a camera, and I've been applying for the private sector jobs so I'm not picky at this point but I really felt I had put together a good deal for employment with the NWS. NWS couldn't care less about your broadcast MET skills. In fact...I'd minimize that part of resume b/c folks coming out of a broadcast MET program very often miss out on other more relevant courses. 6) "It's pretty soul-destroying getting notified time and again that you didn't get the job." Could very well be your application package b/c resumes are scanned by computer machines these days. If you don't have the right action words in your application...you won't be noticed. At this point your best bet is to work for a PWSP for a few years to get some work experience. You've been out of school three years without being gainfully employed in MET-world. Employers don't look favorably on such history. BTW...no one has a degree in meteorology. You have a bachelors of science degree with a major in meteorology.

TQ

UALog answer is one of the best I have seen on this topic so far. I just wanted to touch on one topic. I work for the United State office of Personnel Management (OPM), the federal agency that manages how federal government handles its employees. This includes making sure that each agencies follows the laws and policies that are in place when they hire new workers. I can tell you that a federal agency can not favor any one group of people over another. That would be a direct violation of federal EEO laws. This would include favoring students from one educational institution over another. The link provided by one of the answerer is just informing a potential employee to not assume that every college that offers a degree in atmospheric science will be the same program If you feel that your civil rights were violated and you were not given an equal opportunity due only to the fact that you had received a degree from a certain educational institution, you have the right to file a complaint against that agency through your regional OPM office.

Wolly

I would agree with UALog answer. As a manager of a forecast office, we have 16 meteorologists on station. Here is the list of schools that they had attended. San Jose State Texas Tech Texas A&M @ College Station University of Arizona Washington State Cornell University Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University University of Alaska,@ Fairbanks Florida State George Mason University Utah State Stony Brooks University University of Alabama @ Huntsville University of California @ Davis South Dakota School of Mines and Technology Rutgers University 9 of the meteorologists out of the 16 have advance degrees. I think that indicate how diverse the staff that works in the Weather Service. Of the 7 without advanced degrees, 4 came in through the college internship program and 3 came in after leaving the military. These stats should help answer some of the questions you may have about who gets hired by the Weather Service.

fontm

UALog is correct with his answer. What the NWS would look for with your college transcript would be the courses that you have taken. That would be the reason why they required you to send a copy of your transcript or list of courses that you had completed and not a certified copy of your degree.

pette4

The bad economy does have a role in this, but finding a position in the National Weather Service is a very hard thing to do. I plan to graduate in 2016 (entering UW-Madison next year) with a bachelor's degree, but then continue to graduate school to get at least a master's degree. You're much more likely to get into the NWS with a master's degree, plus you start out with a higher salary. Overall, it's a worthwhile investment since there is less of a gap between getting out of college and finding a job. Plus, it seems like the NWS seems to favor graduates from the University of Oklahoma, so whatever college you graduated from does appear to play a role. Whatever you decide to do, I ask you to consider graduate school as an option. Good luck! Edit: Yes, the college you graduated from does matter. Some colleges have meteorology programs that don't even meet the standards required to gain employment at the NWS. Just check this page: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/jetstream/nws/careers.htm

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