Which California (Los Angeles area) colleges should I look into?
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This summer my family is planning a trip to the LA area so I can tour some colleges. Problem is is that I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for since I have only been on one college tour so far (University of Texas) & am still deciding my major. -I go to a VERY competitive high school so we don't rank (since it's not fair to be compared to the ranks of school with lower standards). But I know I am a few spots away from the top 10% (out of about 100 kids in my grade) -3.85 GPA & taking all honors courses (for reference a girl earning a 3.6 in my school transferred to public & has a 4.3 there -____-). -NO studying or preparation 1st time SAT & ACT scores: 1770 & 27 taking them again in June after hardcore preparation -any tips to raise these scores? -dance/drill team, theater, school ambassador, & secretary for NHS, community service, etc. So far my list is Pepperdine, Loyola Marymount, University of Southern California And today my counselor recommended Pomona College, UCLA, Chapman, Claremont Mckenna -but I know those are REALLY competitive and probably out of my reach Any other suggestions or gentle feedback? (:
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Chapman is not nearly so competitive as the others listed in that sentence. Loyola Marymount is probably the least competitive of all those you mentioned in your question. Neither is worth the private school tuition fee. It would be better to go to your state university unless these colleges give you a very good financial package. Pomona and Claremont McKenna are parts of the Claremont group which also includes Scripps College and Pitzer College which are not nearly so competitive as the first two in this sentence and which you should visit, as all the Claremont colleges have adjacent campuses and students can take classes at any of the campuses if they are not offered at the home campus. You should also look at Occidental College which is a top liberal arts college in Los Angeles proper and is less competitive than Pomona and more competitive than Scripps. Pepperdine is a very Christian (not Roman Catholic) school with compulsory weekly chapel attendance and lots of peer pressure to join a local church. I do not know if that appeals to you or not. I do not consider it to be worth the very high tuition fee even though the campus and dorms are beautiful. UCLA is a top university, but it is not worthwhile to pay out of state tuition fees to attend any public undergraduate university. USC is a top private university which is not quite so competitive for admission as is UCLA and which offers excellent financial aid to those who need it. Do not go to university in Los Angeles because of the city's glamourous reputation. University students will encounter no glamour, but they will face a very high cost of living in a rather unpleasant city. Los Angeles in many ways resembles Houston, except that beaches in Los Angeles are more convenient. Unless I were so rich that money did not matter or so poor that I would get a full scholarship, I would not go from another state to Los Angeles to attend college, with the possible exceptions of two of the Claremont colleges, Pomona and Harvey Mudd (engineering), and of CalTech, which is out of your academic range. You will get as good an education for at University of Texas--Austin, or at Rice University if you want to stay in Texas. If you are from another state and are not at one end of the financial scale or the other, go to your state university.
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The colleges know the curriculum and grading policies at all high schools, and take it into consideration, which is one reason why they look at unweighted grades, then note the number of Honors/AP/IB classes, and the AP/IB exam scores. (An A in an AP class, but a 1 or 2 on the exam, indicates it wasn't as rigorous as it was supposed to be.) Unfortunately, the most rigorous schools really don't get the consideration they deserve, but that's just the way it is. (My son attends a private school that is in the highest group for Ivy ranking, dh participates in the admissions process for his Ivy alma mater, so we know how it works, but my son still he has to make all A's in his very rigorous classes to get into a top college.) My son's private school also doesn't rank, as many don't in this area. Your SAT and ACT scores are a bit low* for the colleges you are considering, except LMU and Chapman, but you should be able to raise them high enough with studying (maybe 200 - 300 SAT points if you really work at it). (*Unless you bring something wow to the college you haven't mentioned, diversity they need, top ranked athlete, major awards, etc.) Pomona is basically considered a west coast Ivy (avg accepted freshman SAT 2200+), very competitive (13% admit rate), and kids I know have chosen it over the Ivies. Claremont McKenna is a step down, still an amazing college, competitive for admissions (17%), and you can take classes at the other Claremont Colleges, including Pomona. Pitzer (also a Claremont College), is competitive for admission (16%), but uses a more holistic approach, if you are in the top 10% of your class, or have an unweighted GPA of 3.5+, you don't have to submit your SAT scores. Accepted freshman average GPA was 3.9, and for those who submitted their SAT scores (most didn't), the math and verbal portions totaled about 1340. Scripps, a women's college, admits about 36% of applicants, average SAT score about 2050. Since it's on the Claremont College campus with 6 other small co-ed colleges, there are plenty of guys around. USC is actually more competitive for admissions than UCLA, it's down to 18% acceptance rate, UCLA is about 22%, the accepted freshman average SAT scores are 130+ points more than UCLA's (and Berkeley's). Everyone applies to UCLA, whereas USC has a very high percentage of applicants from top public and private schools, a more competitive pool, about 40% of the students went to private high school. Admission at UCLA can be a crapshoot, although they have started admitting more top students, as their reputation suffered. Non-resident students pay $23,000+ a year more than resident students, for all 4 years, so it's actually less competitive to be admitted if you're a non-resident. Check the a to g requirements on the UC website to see if you've taken the correct courses, and ask your college counselor to figure out your UC GPA, it's different from most colleges (grades 10 and 11, rigor of 12th), and includes weighting. LMU is a good choice for those who don't quite have the stats to make it into other local colleges, as is Chapman. Kids I know at these colleges really like them. My son finds Chapman too vanilla for his taste, but said it had a very impressive campus and arts/film programs. Admit rate for both colleges is around 50%, except for the film programs, which are probably now 10%. Pepperdine is a probably considered a bit more religious than Chapman and LMU, but it really doesn't seem to have a negative effect on the not to soso religious students I know there, those who are very religious seem to comment on it more, maybe then it's kind of a competitive thing among those students. They have a beautiful campus, and a great study abroad program. About 50% of undergrads participate in study abroad. Average accepted freshman GPA about 3.75, SAT about 1925. Because you're not a CA resident student, your cost of attendance at UCLA will be close to the private colleges' COA, and financial aid packages may be more generous at the private colleges, apply and see. You might also consider UCSB, as it's a bit easier to be accepted to, and it's a great college in a beautiful location, about a 2 hour drive in low traffic from LA. It really isn't the party campus some make it out to be, that's a certain group of students. (A relative works at UCSB, and another is SBPD.) Avg admit freshman SAT - about 1900, UC GPA 4.0, ACT about 27. The cost will be the same as UCLA. Good luck with your college tour! Look at the colleges online first, sign up for emails/mail, so you get an idea of what you want to see and ask questions about. Also, if they have any info sessions in your city, it's a good idea to attend them, they've really helped my son narrow down his list of who were going to visit this summer on the east coast. Good luck!
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