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Forgotten Human History?

  • Well basically from my understanding humans have been at this stage for atleast 200,00years, yet we were only able to start agricaulture in last 12,000 meaning for 190000 years we were living in caves and unable to progress, yet look at what he have been able to achieve in the last 200years. A read a book by a guy named Graham Hancock, and ive been tryn to find a book by Wayne Herschel however its been banned 6 times in the US and lots of other counties. Others around the world have poduced simlar papers of monuments alot older then the pyrmids a time referred by the first pharoahs as sep Tepi (roughly translated to age of gods) these structures often use a very sophisticated astronomical measuring systemn not realised by modern humans until recently(e.g Mayan calnder is a more recent example). sites like Yonagumi, pre ice age stone monument under the sea off Japan, Gobekli Tepi in Turkeya purposly burieds city sowing creatues not found in the area and dating, Bimini road in Bimini and others around the world. In NZ there has been an order to close the entrances of pre-Maori burial caves which consist the skeletons of non pacific islanders who the maori themselves called the strangers, according to captain cook these burial caves contained indo-europeans with red/brownish hair. There are also stone monuments simialr to calenders used in europe which have been destroyed all over NZ. In south america there are caves with pacific island mummies inside, and even more intriguing japnese burial caves have been found. In egypt the goverment have refused the excavation of hidden room in the sphynx basically stopping at a door. The last iceage ended 12000 years ago which raised the sea level by almost 200 feet, most of the world would have flooded almost instantly wiping out all coastle cities, these legends are recorded by the many cultures, 50000 year old aboriginals of Australia speak of the great snake which covered the land, Sumirs 6000year old race about gilgamesh surviving the great flood and (they even have 7 tablets of creation depicting the universe and our solarsystemn and also debatably DNA on it,) the sumirian culture is also said to have influenced the ancient hebrew religion with Naoh and the flood and creation story which all say a great age of gods and great men was destroyed. Basically what i want to know why is there such a blatent fear of trying to discover more about this huge gap in human history or are we really going to be happy with it took us 190000 years to invent a wheel and even after that 10000 before we excepted the world was round when clearly older civilisations knew all this before. for thise religious tyoes that will argue this< theres a verse in ecclesiates 1:9-11 9 what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. 10 Is there anything of which one can say, “Look! This is something new”? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. 11 No one remembers the former generations, and even those yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow them.

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    What you're implying is that there was an Hyborian age prior to the last ice age. And yes, structures such as those found at Yonagumi are quite interesting. Certainly any cities or towns located along the coast would be under the sea, due to the melting ice from the last ice age. But any cities (or their ruins) built along rivers should still be above sea level, and yet none from prior to the end of the last ice age have ever been found.

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I'm not really clear what question you're asking. Humans weren't just sitting in caves for 190,000 years, waiting for aliens from outer space to give us the gift of agriculture. Humans actively developed their lives and technology over that time. For a start, humanity spread out from a limited range in eastern Africa, to cover most of the world. We also survived at least 1 and maybe more major catastrophes which greatly reduced the human population (around 70,000 BC). We built up skills in tool making, weaving, language, art, music, social organisation, knowledge of the natural world and environment, philosophy and intellectual speculation (often expressed in the idiom of "myths and legends"). The rise of agriculture isn't necessarily a "great leap forward", early farmers would have had to work longer and harder than most hunters and gathers to obtain their subsistence, and they were exposed to poorer health and many new diseases which first crossed from livestock to humans around 10,000 years ago. The only "advantage" of agriculture is that it was more predictable - harder work, less quality of life, but less prone to sudden disaster. There is no need to invoke aliens, lost civilisations or mysterious beings to explain the path of human civilisation. Everything that we have found about our ancient ancestors can be explained by mundane facts - humanity has been hard at work for a long time, accumulating knowledge and skills. The real story of humanity is still profound, amazing and moving, even without banned books or "lost civilisations". I'm not sure what your reference to the Australian Rainbow Serpent is supposed to be showing. Yes, the Rainbow Serpent is a widespread image in Australian Aboriginal religion; and has been part of religious practice for over 6,000 years, perhaps well more than 10,000 years. But I don't see how that contributes to your question? Graham Hancock is a British journalist who makes money by publishing books with lurid, improbably stories about ancient history and archaeology. His work has been extensively debunked time and time again. For a good dissection, see the book "Archaeological Fantasies: How Pseudoarchaeology Misrepresents the Past and Misleads the Public" edited by G Fagan (see link below). EDIT: thanks for the follow-up info. It's interesting that agriculture appears to have arisen independently in several different places, all within a 3,000-to-5,000 or so year period (~12,000-7,000 bp). Besides Mesopotamia, agriculture emerged in the African Sahel (just below the Sahara), China, in the Americas, and in New Guinea. Trying to interpret the evidence certainly leaves a few unresolved questions and conflicting theories. Current thinking in 'mainstream' archaeology is that rising population densities may have been one factor in the shift to agriculture. The last Ice Age ran from around 100,000 BC to 13,000 BC - the period during which humans spread out from their ancestral African home as the climate changed. Once the last "Würm" Ice Age ended, it seems like human population and movement suddenly increased - so maybe that was a factor. Many archaeological sites are extremely fragile, so access is often very restricted to prevent irreparable damage. It isn't that the sites are 'banned'. Archaeologists entering the caves at Lascaux in France for example have to dress almost like spacemen, to make sure the chemicals and DNA in their sweat, breath and microscopic flakes of skin don't contaminate the site. Hope it helps.

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