Is 2100 sufficient for Ivy League?

Do you have to go to an Ivy League to be significant in society?

  • I mean, lets be honest here. Unless you're going into sports or entertainment, having at least an undergraduate degree from an Ivy League school or a VERY well known private University (NYU, Stanford, Duke, USC, Northwestern, University of Chicago etc.) are required.. I've spent the last 4 hours or so just literally in one of those infinite wikipedia loops where you just start ingesting as much information about as many people as you possibly can.. everyone from Keither Olberman, to Oprah, to Obama, to Romney, to Charlie Rose etc. But what depressed me throughout my search was when I found out that literally every person who is considered "someone" in society attended an Ivy League university.. I used to think that it was almost an exaggeration when people said that you're not really going to end up anywhere significant unless you go to an Ivy League university... I mean literally everyone who is anyone went to an ivy league school... CEOs of literally any well known company - from Quiznos to eBay, to Facebook, to JP Morgan Chase to Warren Buffet to Bill Gates to well known TV personalities - even people who hold positions like CFO, COO, or high exec positions at major US firms - all went to either Ivy League universities or a well known, private university that's super difficult to get into. EVERYONE, there were maybe one or two that were exceptions.. everyone from Bill O'riley to the creator of Farmville on Facebook.. to the founder of Fedex corporation... All significant US political figures have gone to Ivy League Universities, actors on television like John Krasiniski from the Office went to an Ivy League - even Will Smith was offered to be placed in a pre-engineering position at MIT. WHAT IS GOING ON...? I mean, I go to a really well known private university in Chicago, but it's not majorly known on a national scale or anything... I'd really like to get into the finance/economics/investment banking industry but after really doing my research, even to get an interview with significant investment banking firms like Goldman Sachs, you would have to be like a double major in physics and mathematics at UPenn and have a masters in engineering and finance at Wharton business school... Honestly, try and look for yourself, any and everyone in high positions in almost any industry in the US has gone to an ivy league school or a very well known private university in the country that might as well be considered an ivy league... everyone from Tiger Woods to Bill Clinton to the CEO of GE, to the Prime Minister of Isreal... My goal is to hopefully get accepted into an ivy league school for a graduate degree.. but, honestly after coming to this realization, I'm becoming very discouraged and kind of saddened that in order to get your foot into even the door of anywhere in any industry the first pre-req is Ivy league - the financial firms aren't even hiring finance majors! They're hiring math/medicine majors from Harvard etc. Other notable Ivy League/ Top-Knotch private University people in society: Noam Chomsky Donald Trump The founder of Comcast The Founder of Cisco CFO of Oracle President of Blackrock private equity almost any president or dean of any ivy league/major school in the country Rashida Jones from park and rec Conan O'brien Meryl Streep Jake Gyllenhaal, Maggie Gyllenhaal Matt Damon Adam Sandler The list literally goes on and on and on.. From the world's most famous inventors to the most notable artists in history, to the most famous authors, scientists, architects, singers, actors, politicians, industrialists (business, banking, real estate, etc). There are a lot of other people who are not worth mentioning because you wouldn't know who they were unless you looked them up - nonetheless, they hold top positions in fortune 500 companies, top anchor spots on major networks (ABC, NBC, FOX, CNN), and so on. Anyone who is anyone in both the past and present day society has gone to/come from either an official ivy league school (Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth, Columbia, Princeton, Brown, Cornell, UPenn) or a school that may as well be considered an ivy league school (Northwestern, Notre Dame, Carniegie Mellon, MIT, University of Chicago, NYU, USC, Stanford, CalTech, UCLA, Duke, Boston College, etc.) - why do the rest of us even bother trying? Advice?

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    You kind of misunderstood this. It's not like an Ivy League got them where they were today it's just that those people are so smart and used an Ivy League education to go where they're at. For ex. Bill Gates didn't need Harvard to start Microsoft, it's just that he was a smart guy, he didn't use Harvard much because he dropped out because he was so eager to start doing what Microsoft is known for. However, an Ivy League education can still take you far in life, it just takes creativity and intelligence to make it.

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Because not being famous, or even "significant", does not mean you do not have something important to contribute to society. I recall reading an article that claimed that something like 80-90% of the CEOs and people in positions of power in the government attended one of under 20 schools (unfortunately I can't recall where I read it). This would seem to support your position. But the world does not run on just a handful of people. Everyone brings something to the table. Perhaps you won't get your name in the paper, but when you come to the end of your life you can still hold your head up and say, "I made a difference." https://sites.google.com/site/paul7collegeinfo/home/carpe-diem/a-small-group "If you compare yourself with others you may become [both] vain and bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself."—Desiderata http://www.amazon.com/Desiderata-intro-prologue-Album-Version/dp/B001D535QM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1335640269&sr=1-1

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