Why do feminists see traditionally "feminine" roles as NEGATIVE?

You imply that feminists are responsible for your personal failure to attract a "subservient housewife" to be your "stay at home mom." There are lots of feminists who raise children, who are housewives and who can cook. I want my daughters to accomplish what they want to in life, not what you think they should want.

Seems like you don't read a lot of the responses by feminists on GWS. The vast majority don't view these choices as negative. By choices, I'm refering to the stay at home mom/housewife choice. As far as being submissive. If a person isn't naturally submissive, but is forced to be because of some tradition, it would be seen as negative. That's not rocket science.

Firstly you've made some pretty broad generalizations there buddy. I'm pretty feminist - strong, independent, smart, refuse to be 'taken care of'. However, I see stay at home moms, and homemakers, as an important though dwindling position in our society. But I think it's also making a comeback, fueled in large part by - can you guess? - feminists. Many of my girlfriends, educated, previously career minded, independent women, have chosen to stay at home and care for husbands and children. Don't assume you know anything about feminists, because you clearly don't. You sound like you've been listening to "Dr." Laura & Rush Windbag and haven't bothered to actually speak to the stay at home mothers of today.

It's not the roles I see as negative, but rather people's expectations. If a woman chooses to be a housewife, stay-at-home-mom, etc. with all the duties implied, then that is perfectly acceptable. If a man EXPECTS her to be all those things, that's unacceptable. I know if I was to be married and have kids, I'd like to stay home for at least the first couple years, but only if that's financially feasible. I would not want to be EXPECTED to stay home and out of the workplace. The roles themselves are perfectly admirable, as much so as making an honest living as a corporate executive or waiting tables at a local restaurant.

You answered your own question. No one strives for second place. To be equal, why, we must be the same.

They're only negative when they're forced upon us. If a woman chooses to be a submissive housewife, well and good. But most of us would prefer to do something else, no matter which sex does it more. Many feminists have actually been stay-at-home mothers themselves, if only for a certain amount of time. They have enjoyed their time as such as well as their subsequent time as working women. In my case, if I had to be anything other than a career woman, I'd tie myself to a tree. What feminists dislike is that traits such as leadership, confidence, and ambition are only believed to apply to men. Who among us actually enjoys being passive and submissive?

Wow, man, you need to date some different women if you're only finding the militant psycho types. If you want a more traditional woman, you might look where tradition tends to congregate. I'm an atheist, but I suggest you go to a few church functions. Good luck!

Mike, how did you manage to reach adulthood (presumably) and be so utterly, completely clueless about the opposite sex? And no, thank you. I don't wish to be the alpha male. Alpha males are generally boring, chest-thumping Neanderthals who find fart jokes amusing. I've evolved, thanks. ** As Tim pointed out below, when you ask an offensive question, you can expect an offensive answer.

Good question, bro.