What jobs pay women less for the SAME work as a man?
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The pay gap issue comes up very often on this website. Most of the time, people say that because women as a whole make 76% of what men make (here in the US, don't know outside this country) all women must be getting paid 76% of what men are making. Of course, that's not true. Most of the gap can be explained through lifestyle choices. So, I'm going to put everybody on the spot. Those of you who've been talking about women getting paid less than men for the same work, here's your chance to prove it. I want to know about the jobs that pay women less. 4 requirements: 1. It must be the SAME work. Don't compare maids to CEO's. 2. It must be pretty recent. I really want something that's going on now, but I'll accept anything back to 2000. 3. Don't give me "traditional women's jobs" vs. "traditional men's jobs." This is not the same thing. 4. Keeping women out of executive positions isn't ethical, but it's not paying less for the same work. Don't give me that.
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Is it cheating if I provide the same statistics? ^_^ I would love to give more info from other occupations but to be honest this is the only area I've really looked at. I can't say for sure if the wage gap is in other jobs because I haven't devoted the time and attention to other fields. However, just to reiterate my point from the other night (as you referenced) here is the article again (not so much for you, as you gave a very good answer to my question, but for some others who may doubt the gap): http://www.aaup.org/AAUP/pubsres/research/2003-04factsheet.htm This is, again, talking about the SAME position and for those who don't know, it can take up to 25 years to reach "full professor" so those women who ARE promoted 1) are not having children--they should already be pretty grown by this time 2) had to meet the same criteria as their male peers for 25 years--meaning publication and outstanding job record. Women who "take extra days off of work for 'womanly problems'" on a continual basis (or enough to be noticed) will not reach the position of full professor. There as, from what I see, as a clean, strong record must be established to make this position and most women will be in their 50s (and not having young children to care for) when they make full professor, there is NO reason for such a high wage gap.
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There aren't any. Factors like length of time in the workplace, education, occupation, and number of hours worked per week contribute significantly to the wage gap.
Gun fanatic
None that I can think of.
ricardoxantos
I can't think of any at all.
Rosi
i can't think of any... Everywhere I have ever worked job classifications paid the same Believe it or not; women were more likely to be "fast tracked" to higher positions in order for the companies to have more women in supervisory rolls.
E=MC2
Too much input. The simple answer is: NONE. I am to believe you're in America. There are labor laws which specifically dictate discrimination based on sex in any job is not only illegal but punishable by jail time if proved.
CJA
None at all. The problem is that many women just can't make the connection between the money being for the same work. For some reason, they think that the amount of work performed isn't of any importance, just the job title (at best), or that different jobs pay different amounts. Some women seem to think that they should still get paid as if they were contributing useful work when they are not (such as if they take a year off after having a child, or even when they are less productive one week a month due to hormonal issues). I used to think it was just because they were greedy liars, but I'm beginning to think that maybe they are just really bad at math.
Some guy
When I was working at a high level position, I was privy to some Board of Directors meeting where promotions were discussed. Sometimes a woman's marital status, age, and desire to have children were whispered about and not put into the minutes of the meetings. These discussions never occured for men. So at high level financial sector businesses, there is discrimation. Even though there are many women in the sector who earn a lot more than some of the men, in general MOST men earn FAR more than women do. Additionally at the upper echelons of all American businesses, the number of men far outnumber those of women even though there may be the hired number of each gender at the middle management level. Of course, no industry will put out statistics that these situations occur or they would all be in the courts tomorrow. A friend of mine is the President and CEO of a pharmaceutial company and she is often the only women at conferences out of 200-400 people. Many times, she is confused for someone's assistant.
Advantage-ME
there was this guy in my class that told us he got offered a job as a secretary in an asylum, but didn't take it because he felt guilty after the manager told him, " i usually pay the women about 7 dollars a hour, but since you're a man and you have responsibilities, i will be willing to pay much more for your services." it was for the same work, but one was a man, one a woman. i think this is common; employers pay men more because they assume the man is the breadwinner while the woman is only working for extra money. it isn't right or fair, but it happens. by the way, if you admit there is truth to the glass ceiling, you are answering your own question. this is keeping women from earning as much as men and viola! a pay gap. sometimes you have to look under the surface and not just aslk for obvious examples. EDIT: you're not getting my point, but that's ok. BTW, the glass ceiling, by definition, is not harmful to men. it helps them, it is perpetuated by white men. glass ceiling: an unofficial policy regarded as being imposed on women and minorities that prevents them from advancing to higher positions in business, government, etc. and you can all thumb me down, but that example i provided is true and straight from a man's mouth. do you think he was the only one that was offered such a deal??
feminooties.
I've heard about it happening in Hollywood, where male actors made more than their female co-stars. I remember reading articles a few years back about Gillian Anderson throwing a fit because David Duchovny was making considerably more than her on the X-Files, for instance. There was also an article in the news recently about a woman who sued her company because she found out she was getting paid a lot less than her male coworkers (same position), and she lost. Sorry, I am crap with links, but maybe someone knows what I'm talking about. I don't really keep with with this issue either, although I should... those are just the specific examples I can think of off the top of my head.
smudgethezombie
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