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1776 - A Revolution or a Civil War?

  • Why isn't the American Revolution looked on as a *civil war*? I mean, the colonies were under British rule. And for the colonies to rebel to the point of full fledged war against its ruler nation, The British Empire -- much in the same way the Succession took place in the United States -- why isn't it known as a Civil War? To me, it looks as though a nation battling two ideals, one of which, if accomplished, creates something anew, and the other dare not be a compromise, but a strengthening of sustainability of it archaic ideals? I have few theories as to why The American Revolution is called such and not a civil war. Hopefully, someone more learned in history than I can give me a concrete answer, if a concrete answer exists at all. •The first theory is this – Britain may call our American Revolution their civil war. Americans call the war the American Revolution because America has had a civil war already. For example, the colonies won the war against the British Empire, and then came our own civil war; how would we write the history of those wars – Civil War I, and Civil War II? It makes it difficult. oThis prompts the question, when was the term *American Revolution* coined? Another question it prompts is this, had not The Colonies won the war, would it then be considered a civil war? The answer is obvious isn’t it? Had we not won the war by a happy mistake we possibly would have been under British rule much longer. •My second guess applies geography – Unlike the American Civil War, the American Revolution was fought on American soil, not British. •The third theory – it relates more closely to the first theory than the second one. The fact of the matter is the colonies won the war against the British Empire. As a result came something anew. oTake the American Civil war for example. Had the Confederate States of America won the war against the United States of America, I believe the war would have been named *The Confederate Revolution* rather than *The American Revolution*. oTo further the question, is a civil war so named after its result? Meaning, in order to determine whether the war within a nation is civil or a revolution, one must know its ends. The critical point is this – the rebellious party must win, and the reigning party must lose. The rebellious party – the colonies – defeated the British Empire to create something anew, the place we call home, The United States of America.

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    It's not a civil war because being part of an empire is not the same as being part of the same country. The British Empire successfully put down many revolutions and they were called revolts not civil wars. The British do not call the American Revolution their civil war. They had their own civil war back in England to call a civil war. I agree that if the South had won the Civil War it would be called something different. In fact, lots of places down South do call it something different, The War Between The States, and The War Of The Northern Aggression are two I have heard down there.

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It's a rare revolution that isn't also a civil war. Even if the people are generally united against their government, the latter will still have its supporters among them. The American Revolution was very much a civil war as well, as the Crown had nearly as many supporters among the people as the revolutionaries. Pitched battles between native loyalists and revolutionaries dotted the conflict, especially in the southern colonies. Hundreds of thousands of loyalists were driven from their homes, many to settle in Canada, where their descendants became a bulwark of resistance to the American invaders in the War of 1812.

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You make a good point. During the Civil War, many in the Confederacy saw themselves as similar to the Founding Fathers, that they were in a revolution against a government they did not agree with and they did not feel was treating them fairly or equally. The difference, of course, is that in 1776, America was a colony of England, not actually part of that country. The British Empire "owned" them in a way that the Northern states did not "own" those in the South 80 years later. I imagine the colonists were considered British citizens, but they did not have equal rights with their brethren in England. The Southern States were full and equal states within the country of the United States. And, of course, history is written by the winners, and they also get to call their wars what they want. :-) But, very good points.

bookish

Revolutions succeed, Civil wars fail. On the other hand, there was a civil war between the Americans who supported the Crown and those who did not.

glenn

>Britain may call our American Revolution their civil war American War of Independence is generally used now, at the time American Rebellion was used, Kipling’s poem of the same name, though written in the 20th century, reflects this. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_American_Rebellion There are several civil wars in Britain's history, one of them, (Parliament versus King), is known as the Civil War and resulted eventually in stringent limitations on the powers of the monarch, the civil war in America is known as the American Civil War. However the American Civil War was also known, in Britain and USA, as the American Rebellion – which probably accounts for the adoption of the War of Independence name, which also accurately described the situation.

Tim D

We in Britain don't call the American Revolution our civil war. Our last big civil war took place when the Parliamentarians overthrew King Charles. It was considered a treacherous revolt in the UK, but not a civil war - it was really only part of the continual struggle against France, without whom the Revolution would have failed.

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